Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
I was at the opener when Lance snapped his ankle and the minute that cart came out, you could feel this poor guy's career was over before it started.

When they had the first run with Lance, I said to my wife and friend "If they call these plays, they're gonna kill him". Sure enough, Shanny did.

Now I don't say this as an "I told you so" or like I was seeing something others weren't...in fact, the opposite. It was abundantly clear that if Shanahan was going to give dangerous RPO's with the option going up the gut that this kid was gonna get destroyed. And that's what happened.

The niners being the niners, find a diamond in the rough in Purdy, and not only do they lose the NFCCG before it begins, but they also have his next season and beyond in jeopardy based on another horrible, freak injury.

All of this is to say...sadly, that week 2 of last season is when Lance died on the vine. And maybe it was all screwed from the get go...a panic reach pick for a completely inexperienced, basically high-school level QB...on a roster that is ready for a super bowl.

What coulda gone wrong?

He needed last year to develop but, the team wasn't in a development phase. He still needs this year to develop...and the team is in super bowl mode again. And now he's coming off of a major ankle injury, with the pressure of being in year 3 with no experience, and having a 7th round QB surpass him in every facet.

Sure, he is making great money but this is a worst-case scenario and he really stands no chance of success except maybe on another team...but it makes zero sense value-wise for SF to trade him because he's worth nothing. You have to feel for him.

This is a great post. The niners had no business drafting a.project with a ready now roster. The injury just made it worse. You have to feel bad for him. It's not his fault the niners reached.

I don't even think Shanny thought they were that close. He obviously didn't believe they could pull off another 2019 playoff carry job with Jimmy. Then Jimmy gets to another NFCCG, and it's like "yup we were right not gonna get it done with him, let's keep moving forward with the plan".

But after getting CMC and seeing Brock run the offense he has what he needs. Kyle has a QB he believes in now. Kyle HAS to get it done with this roster and he's going to do what it takes to do that. He's not going to bank his future on Trey and pass this opportunity up

The team is banking on Trey because Brock is hurt and may not return to be the guy we saw.

What actions/words by shanahan or lynch this offseason would make you believe they're banking on him? I've seen nothing.

1. They've brought in darnold
2. Lynch proclaims purdy #1 when healthy
3. Shanahan speaks glowingly of darnold to a point where i want to vomit.
4. Lynch says he doesn't know when Trey will get a chance.

Darnold sucks

Sucks so bad KS went out and landed him day one of FA and is giving him a split of reps for QB1 if BP is out. KS has wanted him on this team for years. I would guess KS thinks he's pretty good. I would guess KS thinks that way about TL also, or that he can be good with development. It's a comp.

Signing a player day 1 of FA means nothing if they don't come with a top 10 NFL salary. If you think teams were pounding the table for Darnold and we pulled out the big guns to get him signed you're delusional.

As for the split reps did I miss practice rep count already? Funny how you guys choose to believe coach/GM talk when it fits your narrative only.

I'm sure darnold had better options than being QB3 here. I think he was a priority of ours, maybe not a huge one, but based on his salary and bonus money - I think it's obvious we wanted to beef up the QB room with Purdys timeline unknown and Lance still being unknown.

it's just an insurance policy but I do think kyle is a big fan of darnold. Which isn't a big deal, he has a really nice skill set. The pressure on Lance is a good thing, should get the best out of him. If pressure makes me crumble then I doubt he's a qb any of us would want.

Oh really? Such as?

Dude was sitting behind PJ Walker and Baker Mayfield at some point last year. Finished the season with a total clunker.

He sees a SB level roster in place and only 2 QBs under contract are coming off major injury - one has 4 starts under his belt and the other has 8 and that one may not even be ready for week 1 of the season. I guarantee you it was an incredibly easy sell for the 49ers to get him here and it's the easiest path of starting for a top notch team that's available to him.

As for Kyle being a big fan of Darnold - he was a big fan of Trey too. Now apparently some think he's done with Trey after 4 starts but same people think Sam is going to walk in here and steal the job from Trey and help us win games?

I think you are correct - they wanted to beef up the QB room but I'd be shocked if they split the reps equally between Trey and Sam with the #1s. They know who needs more reps. We'll see how it all goes down but I'm not buying the idea that Darnold is Kyle's plan for anything other than depth and worst case insurance.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
I was at the opener when Lance snapped his ankle and the minute that cart came out, you could feel this poor guy's career was over before it started.

When they had the first run with Lance, I said to my wife and friend "If they call these plays, they're gonna kill him". Sure enough, Shanny did.

Now I don't say this as an "I told you so" or like I was seeing something others weren't...in fact, the opposite. It was abundantly clear that if Shanahan was going to give dangerous RPO's with the option going up the gut that this kid was gonna get destroyed. And that's what happened.

The niners being the niners, find a diamond in the rough in Purdy, and not only do they lose the NFCCG before it begins, but they also have his next season and beyond in jeopardy based on another horrible, freak injury.

All of this is to say...sadly, that week 2 of last season is when Lance died on the vine. And maybe it was all screwed from the get go...a panic reach pick for a completely inexperienced, basically high-school level QB...on a roster that is ready for a super bowl.

What coulda gone wrong?

He needed last year to develop but, the team wasn't in a development phase. He still needs this year to develop...and the team is in super bowl mode again. And now he's coming off of a major ankle injury, with the pressure of being in year 3 with no experience, and having a 7th round QB surpass him in every facet.

Sure, he is making great money but this is a worst-case scenario and he really stands no chance of success except maybe on another team...but it makes zero sense value-wise for SF to trade him because he's worth nothing. You have to feel for him.

This is a great post. The niners had no business drafting a.project with a ready now roster. The injury just made it worse. You have to feel bad for him. It's not his fault the niners reached.

I don't even think Shanny thought they were that close. He obviously didn't believe they could pull off another 2019 playoff carry job with Jimmy. Then Jimmy gets to another NFCCG, and it's like "yup we were right not gonna get it done with him, let's keep moving forward with the plan".

But after getting CMC and seeing Brock run the offense he has what he needs. Kyle has a QB he believes in now. Kyle HAS to get it done with this roster and he's going to do what it takes to do that. He's not going to bank his future on Trey and pass this opportunity up

The team is banking on Trey because Brock is hurt and may not return to be the guy we saw.

What actions/words by shanahan or lynch this offseason would make you believe they're banking on him? I've seen nothing.

1. They've brought in darnold
2. Lynch proclaims purdy #1 when healthy
3. Shanahan speaks glowingly of darnold to a point where i want to vomit.
4. Lynch says he doesn't know when Trey will get a chance.

Darnold sucks

Sucks so bad KS went out and landed him day one of FA and is giving him a split of reps for QB1 if BP is out. KS has wanted him on this team for years. I would guess KS thinks he's pretty good. I would guess KS thinks that way about TL also, or that he can be good with development. It's a comp.

Signing a player day 1 of FA means nothing if they don't come with a top 10 NFL salary. If you think teams were pounding the table for Darnold and we pulled out the big guns to get him signed you're delusional.

As for the split reps did I miss practice rep count already? Funny how you guys choose to believe coach/GM talk when it fits your narrative only.

Would you say Ian Rapoport or David Carr are pushing a narrative when they say Sam will likely be the guy out there if BP is not avail? Here is a piece last week from Grant. The title is "Why are the 49ers making Trey compete with Sam". It's a comp, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. You have 100s of articles saying this is a comp for QB2 essentially.

Once again Rapoport or Carr are reacting to the same soundbites we heard. They don't know anything extra. Just like they didn't when they claimed Mac Jones would be 3rd overall pick. How many times do we have to see this stuff play out where the national pundits are wrong to realize they're no more connected to certain things than fans are?

Originally posted by krizay:
What the F does any of this have to do with new and improved mechanics?

Same thing it has to do with bringing up Kap in a Trey thread. You want to talk about Kap then let's talk about Kap. In the Kap thread. If dudes gonna come in here looking for dat werk, I'm going to give it to them

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
I was at the opener when Lance snapped his ankle and the minute that cart came out, you could feel this poor guy's career was over before it started.

When they had the first run with Lance, I said to my wife and friend "If they call these plays, they're gonna kill him". Sure enough, Shanny did.

Now I don't say this as an "I told you so" or like I was seeing something others weren't...in fact, the opposite. It was abundantly clear that if Shanahan was going to give dangerous RPO's with the option going up the gut that this kid was gonna get destroyed. And that's what happened.

The niners being the niners, find a diamond in the rough in Purdy, and not only do they lose the NFCCG before it begins, but they also have his next season and beyond in jeopardy based on another horrible, freak injury.

All of this is to say...sadly, that week 2 of last season is when Lance died on the vine. And maybe it was all screwed from the get go...a panic reach pick for a completely inexperienced, basically high-school level QB...on a roster that is ready for a super bowl.

What coulda gone wrong?

He needed last year to develop but, the team wasn't in a development phase. He still needs this year to develop...and the team is in super bowl mode again. And now he's coming off of a major ankle injury, with the pressure of being in year 3 with no experience, and having a 7th round QB surpass him in every facet.

Sure, he is making great money but this is a worst-case scenario and he really stands no chance of success except maybe on another team...but it makes zero sense value-wise for SF to trade him because he's worth nothing. You have to feel for him.

This is a great post. The niners had no business drafting a.project with a ready now roster. The injury just made it worse. You have to feel bad for him. It's not his fault the niners reached.

I don't even think Shanny thought they were that close. He obviously didn't believe they could pull off another 2019 playoff carry job with Jimmy. Then Jimmy gets to another NFCCG, and it's like "yup we were right not gonna get it done with him, let's keep moving forward with the plan".

But after getting CMC and seeing Brock run the offense he has what he needs. Kyle has a QB he believes in now. Kyle HAS to get it done with this roster and he's going to do what it takes to do that. He's not going to bank his future on Trey and pass this opportunity up

The team is banking on Trey because Brock is hurt and may not return to be the guy we saw.

What actions/words by shanahan or lynch this offseason would make you believe they're banking on him? I've seen nothing.

1. They've brought in darnold
2. Lynch proclaims purdy #1 when healthy
3. Shanahan speaks glowingly of darnold to a point where i want to vomit.
4. Lynch says he doesn't know when Trey will get a chance.

Darnold sucks

Sucks so bad KS went out and landed him day one of FA and is giving him a split of reps for QB1 if BP is out. KS has wanted him on this team for years. I would guess KS thinks he's pretty good. I would guess KS thinks that way about TL also, or that he can be good with development. It's a comp.

Signing a player day 1 of FA means nothing if they don't come with a top 10 NFL salary. If you think teams were pounding the table for Darnold and we pulled out the big guns to get him signed you're delusional.

As for the split reps did I miss practice rep count already? Funny how you guys choose to believe coach/GM talk when it fits your narrative only.

I'm sure darnold had better options than being QB3 here. I think he was a priority of ours, maybe not a huge one, but based on his salary and bonus money - I think it's obvious we wanted to beef up the QB room with Purdys timeline unknown and Lance still being unknown.

it's just an insurance policy but I do think kyle is a big fan of darnold. Which isn't a big deal, he has a really nice skill set. The pressure on Lance is a good thing, should get the best out of him. If pressure makes me crumble then I doubt he's a qb any of us would want.

Oh really? Such as?

Dude was sitting behind PJ Walker and Baker Mayfield at some point last year. Finished the season with a total clunker.

He sees a SB level roster in place and only 2 QBs under contract are coming off major injury - one has 4 starts under his belt and the other has 8 and that one may not even be ready for week 1 of the season. I guarantee you it was an incredibly easy sell for the 49ers to get him here and it's the easiest path of starting for a top notch team that's available to him.

As for Kyle being a big fan of Darnold - he was a big fan of Trey too. Now apparently some think he's done with Trey after 4 starts but same people think Sam is going to walk in here and steal the job from Trey and help us win games?

I think you are correct - they wanted to beef up the QB room but I'd be shocked if they split the reps equally between Trey and Sam with the #1s. They know who needs more reps. We'll see how it all goes down but I'm not buying the idea that Darnold is Kyle's plan for anything other than depth and worst case insurance.

Big fan of CJ Beathard as well.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
I was at the opener when Lance snapped his ankle and the minute that cart came out, you could feel this poor guy's career was over before it started.

When they had the first run with Lance, I said to my wife and friend "If they call these plays, they're gonna kill him". Sure enough, Shanny did.

Now I don't say this as an "I told you so" or like I was seeing something others weren't...in fact, the opposite. It was abundantly clear that if Shanahan was going to give dangerous RPO's with the option going up the gut that this kid was gonna get destroyed. And that's what happened.

The niners being the niners, find a diamond in the rough in Purdy, and not only do they lose the NFCCG before it begins, but they also have his next season and beyond in jeopardy based on another horrible, freak injury.

All of this is to say...sadly, that week 2 of last season is when Lance died on the vine. And maybe it was all screwed from the get go...a panic reach pick for a completely inexperienced, basically high-school level QB...on a roster that is ready for a super bowl.

What coulda gone wrong?

He needed last year to develop but, the team wasn't in a development phase. He still needs this year to develop...and the team is in super bowl mode again. And now he's coming off of a major ankle injury, with the pressure of being in year 3 with no experience, and having a 7th round QB surpass him in every facet.

Sure, he is making great money but this is a worst-case scenario and he really stands no chance of success except maybe on another team...but it makes zero sense value-wise for SF to trade him because he's worth nothing. You have to feel for him.

This is a great post. The niners had no business drafting a.project with a ready now roster. The injury just made it worse. You have to feel bad for him. It's not his fault the niners reached.

I don't even think Shanny thought they were that close. He obviously didn't believe they could pull off another 2019 playoff carry job with Jimmy. Then Jimmy gets to another NFCCG, and it's like "yup we were right not gonna get it done with him, let's keep moving forward with the plan".

But after getting CMC and seeing Brock run the offense he has what he needs. Kyle has a QB he believes in now. Kyle HAS to get it done with this roster and he's going to do what it takes to do that. He's not going to bank his future on Trey and pass this opportunity up

The team is banking on Trey because Brock is hurt and may not return to be the guy we saw.

What actions/words by shanahan or lynch this offseason would make you believe they're banking on him? I've seen nothing.

1. They've brought in darnold
2. Lynch proclaims purdy #1 when healthy
3. Shanahan speaks glowingly of darnold to a point where i want to vomit.
4. Lynch says he doesn't know when Trey will get a chance.

Darnold sucks

Sucks so bad KS went out and landed him day one of FA and is giving him a split of reps for QB1 if BP is out. KS has wanted him on this team for years. I would guess KS thinks he's pretty good. I would guess KS thinks that way about TL also, or that he can be good with development. It's a comp.

Signing a player day 1 of FA means nothing if they don't come with a top 10 NFL salary. If you think teams were pounding the table for Darnold and we pulled out the big guns to get him signed you're delusional.

As for the split reps did I miss practice rep count already? Funny how you guys choose to believe coach/GM talk when it fits your narrative only.

Would you say Ian Rapoport or David Carr are pushing a narrative when they say Sam will likely be the guy out there if BP is not avail? Here is a piece last week from Grant. The title is "Why are the 49ers making Trey compete with Sam". It's a comp, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. You have 100s of articles saying this is a comp for QB2 essentially.

Once again Rapoport or Carr are reacting to the same soundbites we heard. They don't know anything extra. Just like they didn't when they claimed Mac Jones would be 3rd overall pick. How many times do we have to see this stuff play out where the national pundits are wrong to realize they're no more connected to certain things than fans are?

I think Carr knows QB play on a level you or I can only pretend to. I think Rap who does this for a living has more a pulse on the NFL than the avg WZer. Sure they aren't right all of the time.

Not sure what your impression of things is. Do you believe TL will get all the offseason work, and Sam will be off in the corner standing around? I don't see it that way. Why wouldn't TL be in a comp with Sam? What has TL done to this point to show he is beyond Sam's level or experience? Might TL be a lil behind the curve, as he spent months with his foot in a boot? TL is a work in prog, Sam right now is probably the better QB, albeit less seasoned in our system. So Lance has the edge of being in our O and being the major investment of this franchise, while Sam has the edge of 55 NFL starts to 4. I think this is pretty even, and will be probably the focal point of our offseason.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Pretty sure Jed looks at that TL hairline and says, I see nothing wrong here. So Lance is good from a 49ers perspective.

How would you handle this situation?

Rogaine

I think he could just shave his head.

Not sure if the head shape works, but typically it's easier for black guys than anyone else to pull off.

It takes a little getting used to, then it's as if you lived your whole life that way. LOL

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:

I was at the opener when Lance snapped his ankle and the minute that cart came out, you could feel this poor guy's career was over before it started.

When they had the first run with Lance, I said to my wife and friend "If they call these plays, they're gonna kill him". Sure enough, Shanny did.

Now I don't say this as an "I told you so" or like I was seeing something others weren't...in fact, the opposite. It was abundantly clear that if Shanahan was going to give dangerous RPO's with the option going up the gut that this kid was gonna get destroyed. And that's what happened.

The niners being the niners, find a diamond in the rough in Purdy, and not only do they lose the NFCCG before it begins, but they also have his next season and beyond in jeopardy based on another horrible, freak injury.

All of this is to say...sadly, that week 2 of last season is when Lance died on the vine. And maybe it was all screwed from the get go...a panic reach pick for a completely inexperienced, basically high-school level QB...on a roster that is ready for a super bowl.

What coulda gone wrong?

He needed last year to develop but, the team wasn't in a development phase. He still needs this year to develop...and the team is in super bowl mode again. And now he's coming off of a major ankle injury, with the pressure of being in year 3 with no experience, and having a 7th round QB surpass him in every facet.

Sure, he is making great money but this is a worst-case scenario and he really stands no chance of success except maybe on another team...but it makes zero sense value-wise for SF to trade him because he's worth nothing. You have to feel for him.

This is a great post. The niners had no business drafting a.project with a ready now roster. The injury just made it worse. You have to feel bad for him. It's not his fault the niners reached.

I don't even think Shanny thought they were that close. He obviously didn't believe they could pull off another 2019 playoff carry job with Jimmy. Then Jimmy gets to another NFCCG, and it's like "yup we were right not gonna get it done with him, let's keep moving forward with the plan".

But after getting CMC and seeing Brock run the offense he has what he needs. Kyle has a QB he believes in now. Kyle HAS to get it done with this roster and he's going to do what it takes to do that. He's not going to bank his future on Trey and pass this opportunity up

The team is banking on Trey because Brock is hurt and may not return to be the guy we saw.

What actions/words by shanahan or lynch this offseason would make you believe they're banking on him? I've seen nothing.

1. They've brought in darnold
2. Lynch proclaims purdy #1 when healthy
3. Shanahan speaks glowingly of darnold to a point where i want to vomit.
4. Lynch says he doesn't know when Trey will get a chance.

Feel free to provide the quote for this.

He paraphrased but Lynch did say "we'll see how we get him that opportunity", when talking about Trey playing.

Take from that what you will, but it sounds like he's not confident in Trey making a way for himself here in SF. He needs to see how they will get him an opportunity. No talk of Trey competing and doing that on his own

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
I was at the opener when Lance snapped his ankle and the minute that cart came out, you could feel this poor guy's career was over before it started.

When they had the first run with Lance, I said to my wife and friend "If they call these plays, they're gonna kill him". Sure enough, Shanny did.

Now I don't say this as an "I told you so" or like I was seeing something others weren't...in fact, the opposite. It was abundantly clear that if Shanahan was going to give dangerous RPO's with the option going up the gut that this kid was gonna get destroyed. And that's what happened.

The niners being the niners, find a diamond in the rough in Purdy, and not only do they lose the NFCCG before it begins, but they also have his next season and beyond in jeopardy based on another horrible, freak injury.

All of this is to say...sadly, that week 2 of last season is when Lance died on the vine. And maybe it was all screwed from the get go...a panic reach pick for a completely inexperienced, basically high-school level QB...on a roster that is ready for a super bowl.

What coulda gone wrong?

He needed last year to develop but, the team wasn't in a development phase. He still needs this year to develop...and the team is in super bowl mode again. And now he's coming off of a major ankle injury, with the pressure of being in year 3 with no experience, and having a 7th round QB surpass him in every facet.

Sure, he is making great money but this is a worst-case scenario and he really stands no chance of success except maybe on another team...but it makes zero sense value-wise for SF to trade him because he's worth nothing. You have to feel for him.

This is a great post. The niners had no business drafting a.project with a ready now roster. The injury just made it worse. You have to feel bad for him. It's not his fault the niners reached.

I don't even think Shanny thought they were that close. He obviously didn't believe they could pull off another 2019 playoff carry job with Jimmy. Then Jimmy gets to another NFCCG, and it's like "yup we were right not gonna get it done with him, let's keep moving forward with the plan".

But after getting CMC and seeing Brock run the offense he has what he needs. Kyle has a QB he believes in now. Kyle HAS to get it done with this roster and he's going to do what it takes to do that. He's not going to bank his future on Trey and pass this opportunity up

The team is banking on Trey because Brock is hurt and may not return to be the guy we saw.

What actions/words by shanahan or lynch this offseason would make you believe they're banking on him? I've seen nothing.

1. They've brought in darnold
2. Lynch proclaims purdy #1 when healthy
3. Shanahan speaks glowingly of darnold to a point where i want to vomit.
4. Lynch says he doesn't know when Trey will get a chance.

Darnold sucks

Sucks so bad KS went out and landed him day one of FA and is giving him a split of reps for QB1 if BP is out. KS has wanted him on this team for years. I would guess KS thinks he's pretty good. I would guess KS thinks that way about TL also, or that he can be good with development. It's a comp.

Signing a player day 1 of FA means nothing if they don't come with a top 10 NFL salary. If you think teams were pounding the table for Darnold and we pulled out the big guns to get him signed you're delusional.

As for the split reps did I miss practice rep count already? Funny how you guys choose to believe coach/GM talk when it fits your narrative only.

I'm sure darnold had better options than being QB3 here. I think he was a priority of ours, maybe not a huge one, but based on his salary and bonus money - I think it's obvious we wanted to beef up the QB room with Purdys timeline unknown and Lance still being unknown.

it's just an insurance policy but I do think kyle is a big fan of darnold. Which isn't a big deal, he has a really nice skill set. The pressure on Lance is a good thing, should get the best out of him. If pressure makes me crumble then I doubt he's a qb any of us would want.

Oh really? Such as?

Dude was sitting behind PJ Walker and Baker Mayfield at some point last year. Finished the season with a total clunker.

He sees a SB level roster in place and only 2 QBs under contract are coming off major injury - one has 4 starts under his belt and the other has 8 and that one may not even be ready for week 1 of the season. I guarantee you it was an incredibly easy sell for the 49ers to get him here and it's the easiest path of starting for a top notch team that's available to him.

As for Kyle being a big fan of Darnold - he was a big fan of Trey too. Now apparently some think he's done with Trey after 4 starts but same people think Sam is going to walk in here and steal the job from Trey and help us win games?

I think you are correct - they wanted to beef up the QB room but I'd be shocked if they split the reps equally between Trey and Sam with the #1s. They know who needs more reps. We'll see how it all goes down but I'm not buying the idea that Darnold is Kyle's plan for anything other than depth and worst case insurance.

You mean when he went down in preseason with a high ankle sprain and didn't come back until November? Then finished out the last 6 weeks with his best play? I'm not saying he was great but don't fool yourself.

to think he didn't have any other options is naive. Idk what they were but we would of paid him vet min if no one else wanted him.

im not some fan of his and I don't expect him to beat out Lance. Relax. Lol I do think the niners signed him because they're worried about Purdys timeline and lances development/recovery

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
I was at the opener when Lance snapped his ankle and the minute that cart came out, you could feel this poor guy's career was over before it started.

When they had the first run with Lance, I said to my wife and friend "If they call these plays, they're gonna kill him". Sure enough, Shanny did.

Now I don't say this as an "I told you so" or like I was seeing something others weren't...in fact, the opposite. It was abundantly clear that if Shanahan was going to give dangerous RPO's with the option going up the gut that this kid was gonna get destroyed. And that's what happened.

The niners being the niners, find a diamond in the rough in Purdy, and not only do they lose the NFCCG before it begins, but they also have his next season and beyond in jeopardy based on another horrible, freak injury.

All of this is to say...sadly, that week 2 of last season is when Lance died on the vine. And maybe it was all screwed from the get go...a panic reach pick for a completely inexperienced, basically high-school level QB...on a roster that is ready for a super bowl.

What coulda gone wrong?

He needed last year to develop but, the team wasn't in a development phase. He still needs this year to develop...and the team is in super bowl mode again. And now he's coming off of a major ankle injury, with the pressure of being in year 3 with no experience, and having a 7th round QB surpass him in every facet.

Sure, he is making great money but this is a worst-case scenario and he really stands no chance of success except maybe on another team...but it makes zero sense value-wise for SF to trade him because he's worth nothing. You have to feel for him.

This is a great post. The niners had no business drafting a.project with a ready now roster. The injury just made it worse. You have to feel bad for him. It's not his fault the niners reached.

I don't even think Shanny thought they were that close. He obviously didn't believe they could pull off another 2019 playoff carry job with Jimmy. Then Jimmy gets to another NFCCG, and it's like "yup we were right not gonna get it done with him, let's keep moving forward with the plan".

But after getting CMC and seeing Brock run the offense he has what he needs. Kyle has a QB he believes in now. Kyle HAS to get it done with this roster and he's going to do what it takes to do that. He's not going to bank his future on Trey and pass this opportunity up

The team is banking on Trey because Brock is hurt and may not return to be the guy we saw.

What actions/words by shanahan or lynch this offseason would make you believe they're banking on him? I've seen nothing.

1. They've brought in darnold
2. Lynch proclaims purdy #1 when healthy
3. Shanahan speaks glowingly of darnold to a point where i want to vomit.
4. Lynch says he doesn't know when Trey will get a chance.

Feel free to provide the quote for this.

He paraphrased but Lynch did say "we'll see how we get him that opportunity", when talking about Trey playing.

Take from that what you will, but it sounds like he's not confident in Trey making a way for himself here in SF. He needs to see how they will get him an opportunity. No talk of Trey competing and doing that on his own

I assumed this was an actual quote?

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I guess I havent been paying attention. I have no idea how anyone could have been less than thrilled with what we saw out of Brock last season.

I get that some can be cautiously optimistic about whether he can repeat this level of play moving forward, but intentionally finding flaws to denigrate him? Finding every bad play? I mean, yeah I guess I havent been paying attention because I am not seeing that in the slightest bit.

Yeah, I don't get it either. Lol I think the issue is that some folks think Lance will better than Purdy and Lance should get QB1 so he can develop.

i don't believe in that but whatever, to each their own. What we saw from Purdy was special and I want to see it through to find out if he really is.

Originally posted by tankle104:
You mean when he went down in preseason with a high ankle sprain and didn't come back until November? Then finished out the last 6 weeks with his best play? I'm not saying he was great but don't fool yourself.

to think he didn't have any other options is naive. Idk what they were but we would of paid him vet min if no one else wanted him.

im not some fan of his and I don't expect him to beat out Lance. Relax. Lol I do think the niners signed him because they're worried about Purdys timeline and lances development/recovery

He came back at the end of October. He still sat behind Walker for a couple of games. And he finished off the season with this...

5/15 43 yards 0 TD 2 INT 6 rushes for 32 yards and 2 fumbles(not lost though)

If that's what you consider his best play...well yikes.

You bringing up his injury is just further reason why relying on him is stupid. He's got his own history of missing games and he's got a long history of inconsistency and AWFUL games.

We magically think Shanahan has the secret sauce to turn a talented guy into an elite QB...but Trey Lance is a lost cause and not a fit for Shanahan(after Shanahan drafted him)

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
I assumed this was an actual quote?

Do you not know how to post a quote? I'm not watching a 14 minute video. If you can't post a simple quote then don't put it out there like something that was said.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I guess I havent been paying attention. I have no idea how anyone could have been less than thrilled with what we saw out of Brock last season.

I get that some can be cautiously optimistic about whether he can repeat this level of play moving forward, but intentionally finding flaws to denigrate him? Finding every bad play? I mean, yeah I guess I havent been paying attention because I am not seeing that in the slightest bit.

Yeah, I don't get it either. Lol I think the issue is that some folks think Lance will better than Purdy and Lance should get QB1 so he can develop.

i don't believe in that but whatever, to each their own. What we saw from Purdy was special and I want to see it through to find out if he really is.

I can't co,[lain about what we saw from Brock but I've been watching football for too many years to think that 7 games is enough to know that he will be able to keep it up. It's not about any particular flaw but every QB has tendencies and flaws. Some have already pointed out his tendency to retreat sand roll to his left when under pressure. Some question his arm strength although I don't think that's a huge issue in Kyle's offense. Sometimes it's not easy for a player to repeat every yea There are different expectations when you are the starter and not just replacing an injured guy. We also don't know how soon he'll be 100% healthy.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:
You mean when he went down in preseason with a high ankle sprain and didn't come back until November? Then finished out the last 6 weeks with his best play? I'm not saying he was great but don't fool yourself.

to think he didn't have any other options is naive. Idk what they were but we would of paid him vet min if no one else wanted him.

im not some fan of his and I don't expect him to beat out Lance. Relax. Lol I do think the niners signed him because they're worried about Purdys timeline and lances development/recovery

He came back at the end of October. He still sat behind Walker for a couple of games. And he finished off the season with this...

5/15 43 yards 0 TD 2 INT 6 rushes for 32 yards and 2 fumbles(not lost though)

If that's what you consider his best play...well yikes.

You bringing up his injury is just further reason why relying on him is stupid. He's got his own history of missing games and he's got a long history of inconsistency and AWFUL games.

We magically think Shanahan has the secret sauce to turn a talented guy into an elite QB...but Trey Lance is a lost cause and not a fit for Shanahan(after Shanahan drafted him)

He didn't come of IR until November 7. They may of opened the practice window in October but he wasn't off IR until November 7.

lol I said he didn't play great. Stop acting like Lance played better.
0 TDs in 2/3 starts. 1 int in each game. 55% completion. 90% of his drives ended without a TD. So on and so forth.

they both played poorly-mediocre. I'm not excited to see either play. Unless Lance looks good in camp, which I'm optimistic about - especially with his improved mechanics

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I guess I havent been paying attention. I have no idea how anyone could have been less than thrilled with what we saw out of Brock last season.

I get that some can be cautiously optimistic about whether he can repeat this level of play moving forward, but intentionally finding flaws to denigrate him? Finding every bad play? I mean, yeah I guess I havent been paying attention because I am not seeing that in the slightest bit.

Yeah, I don't get it either. Lol I think the issue is that some folks think Lance will better than Purdy and Lance should get QB1 so he can develop.

i don't believe in that but whatever, to each their own. What we saw from Purdy was special and I want to see it through to find out if he really is.

I can't co,[lain about what we saw from Brock but I've been watching football for too many years to think that 7 games is enough to know that he will be able to keep it up. It's not about any particular flaw but every QB has tendencies and flaws. Some have already pointed out his tendency to retreat sand roll to his left when under pressure. Some question his arm strength although I don't think that's a huge issue in Kyle's offense. Sometimes it's not easy for a player to repeat every yea There are different expectations when you are the starter and not just replacing an injured guy. We also don't know how soon he'll be 100% healthy.

It's definitely a valid concern regarding if he can keep it up/improve. I think all of us feel that way and that's why we want to see him play some more.

his bad tendencies were there, like the rolling out left early, but I think those kind of things are easy to fix. If it was accuracy/progressions/etc - then I'd be more concerned.
Those are difficult to overcome.

im super curious how his recovery will be on june 2, the date he is supposed to move into throwing. Hopefully it goes well!