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Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
RUMOR:
— NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) April 12, 2023
The #Vikings and #49ers have had preliminary discussions about a Kirk Cousins/Trey Lance swap.
The Vikings aren't confident Cousins is capable of leading them to a Super Bowl. Meanwhile, the 49ers believe that Cousins could be the missing piece just as Stafford was for… pic.twitter.com/2n7a7YGSht
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Imagine thinking Cousins is the last piece to the puzzle in winning a SB lol. The obsession Kyle has with Kirk Cousins is just insane to me
I have no idea. Maybe they have tattoos of each other lmao. But one thing is for sure, kirk will be a top 8 qb under kyle
Brock was top 5 under Kyle.
Trey could be top 3.
I still think the issue with a qb like cousins is that if the defense has an off day or average day or the special teams does, it's a major uphill battle to still win with a guy like Kirk.
it's similar to jimmy, if the team doesn't play a clean game, it's a challenge to win. Shouldn't be that way with this roster.
im glad the Kirk cousins nonsense is coming from ridiculous corners of the internet and not anyone credible.
I know what you mean, but he is a little better than Jimmy. Jimmy was a play away a couple times, and I think our roster is better now and our path is easier than either of those seasons.
I'm not saying it's the right move, but I think Kyle is hell bent on getting it done after coming so close again. I Kirk was his prototype before seeing Mahomes and Allen play, i really wouldn't be shocked if he wants to make this trade
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
RUMOR:
— NFL Notifications (@NFLNotify) April 12, 2023
The #Vikings and #49ers have had preliminary discussions about a Kirk Cousins/Trey Lance swap.
The Vikings aren't confident Cousins is capable of leading them to a Super Bowl. Meanwhile, the 49ers believe that Cousins could be the missing piece just as Stafford was for… pic.twitter.com/2n7a7YGSht
"NFL Notifications"
Man y'all have to stop posting from these b******t, no name accounts. Every single year around draft time these random accounts start flexing and every single year it turns out that they were wrong about 99.99999999% of what they reported.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Kirk cousins and darnold. Kill me now.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Kirk cousins and darnold. Kill me now.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Just based on their film and overall experience. I can watch all of Treys tape from college and NFL and there's nothing that tells me he's better than Darnold.
I also base it off the fact that Kyle and John are already undermining Trey and don't have a lot of excitement about him and his future here. I know you guys don't want to see it that way, but anyone that's not a Trey homer sees it. Imo you'd have to be pretty bad for a team that spent all that draft capital to be ready to move on without seeing much.
Kyle has seen the film and he thinks Sam can play. I know the "Darnold is here just to save our ass if something extremely rare happens again" narrative sounds amazing and makes sense for us, but it doesn't for Darnold. He wouldnt sign here to just sit around for us in case lightning strikes twice
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Just based on their film and overall experience. I can watch all of Treys tape from college and NFL and there's nothing that tells me he's better than Darnold.
I also base it off the fact that Kyle and John are already undermining Trey and don't have a lot of excitement about him and his future here. I know you guys don't want to see it that way, but anyone that's not a Trey homer sees it. Imo you'd have to be pretty bad for a team that spent all that draft capital to be ready to move on without seeing much.
Kyle has seen the film and he thinks Sam can play. I know the "Darnold is here just to save our ass if something extremely rare happens again" narrative sounds amazing and makes sense for us, but it doesn't for Darnold. He wouldnt sign here to just sit around for us in case lightning strikes twice
Watch a lot of film do you?
That's the thing with experience...you can't get it until you get it. Trey has more experience on this team and in this offense than Darnold does.
It took Matt Ryan 2 years to master Shanahan's offense. Darnold is here on a 1 year deal. We're just going to assume he comes in and picks up the playbook without issue? Maybe...but right now we haven't seen a single snap from him.
Kyle Shanahan has seen Trey Lance's film and thought he could play. Seems like you like to forget that part.
Darnold signed here because Purdy is on the shelf for who knows how long and has 8 starts under his belt. Trey is still recovering himself and has 4 starts under his belt. It's not that deep. He saw a great team in place and a spot where he could come in and compete and try to land a starting spot.
What other team this good has a question at QB whether injury wise or lack of starting experience wise? Not like he signed a 4 year deal here.
Originally posted by bigpete50:
I feel bad for Trey fans! Every day there is some new wild and crazy way to get rid of Trey.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Just based on their film and overall experience. I can watch all of Treys tape from college and NFL and there's nothing that tells me he's better than Darnold.
I also base it off the fact that Kyle and John are already undermining Trey and don't have a lot of excitement about him and his future here. I know you guys don't want to see it that way, but anyone that's not a Trey homer sees it. Imo you'd have to be pretty bad for a team that spent all that draft capital to be ready to move on without seeing much.
Kyle has seen the film and he thinks Sam can play. I know the "Darnold is here just to save our ass if something extremely rare happens again" narrative sounds amazing and makes sense for us, but it doesn't for Darnold. He wouldnt sign here to just sit around for us in case lightning strikes twice
Watch a lot of film do you?
That's the thing with experience...you can't get it until you get it. Trey has more experience on this team and in this offense than Darnold does.
It took Matt Ryan 2 years to master Shanahan's offense. Darnold is here on a 1 year deal. We're just going to assume he comes in and picks up the playbook without issue? Maybe...but right now we haven't seen a single snap from him.
Kyle Shanahan has seen Trey Lance's film and thought he could play. Seems like you like to forget that part.
Darnold signed here because Purdy is on the shelf for who knows how long and has 8 starts under his belt. Trey is still recovering himself and has 4 starts under his belt. It's not that deep. He saw a great team in place and a spot where he could come in and compete and try to land a starting spot.
What other team this good has a question at QB whether injury wise or lack of starting experience wise? Not like he signed a 4 year deal here.
Picks up the playbook with no issues, yup. This is a guy on HC what.. four? Five? Picking up new stuff is what he does basically every season.
the bold is 100% correct
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Just based on their film and overall experience. I can watch all of Treys tape from college and NFL and there's nothing that tells me he's better than Darnold.
I also base it off the fact that Kyle and John are already undermining Trey and don't have a lot of excitement about him and his future here. I know you guys don't want to see it that way, but anyone that's not a Trey homer sees it. Imo you'd have to be pretty bad for a team that spent all that draft capital to be ready to move on without seeing much.
Kyle has seen the film and he thinks Sam can play. I know the "Darnold is here just to save our ass if something extremely rare happens again" narrative sounds amazing and makes sense for us, but it doesn't for Darnold. He wouldnt sign here to just sit around for us in case lightning strikes twice
Watch a lot of film do you?
That's the thing with experience...you can't get it until you get it. Trey has more experience on this team and in this offense than Darnold does.
It took Matt Ryan 2 years to master Shanahan's offense. Darnold is here on a 1 year deal. We're just going to assume he comes in and picks up the playbook without issue? Maybe...but right now we haven't seen a single snap from him.
Kyle Shanahan has seen Trey Lance's film and thought he could play. Seems like you like to forget that part.
Darnold signed here because Purdy is on the shelf for who knows how long and has 8 starts under his belt. Trey is still recovering himself and has 4 starts under his belt. It's not that deep. He saw a great team in place and a spot where he could come in and compete and try to land a starting spot.
What other team this good has a question at QB whether injury wise or lack of starting experience wise? Not like he signed a 4 year deal here.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Kyle never named the starter in 2021 until the end of camp.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:lol it doesn't work that way... unless Trey gets injured Trey will be the starter (if Brock is not ready)
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Imagine thinking Cousins is the last piece to the puzzle in winning a SB lol. The obsession Kyle has with Kirk Cousins is just insane to me
I have no idea. Maybe they have tattoos of each other lmao. But one thing is for sure, kirk will be a top 8 qb under kyle
Brock was top 5 under Kyle.
Trey could be top 3.
Kyle would name him the starter if that were the case
Yes it does. If Kyle truly believed Trey could be top 3 QB, he could have very easily said he's excited about what Brock did but he's also excited to get his starter back
Originally posted by tankle104:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Originally posted by tankle104:Originally posted by TheWooLick:Originally posted by q0c0p:Originally posted by FredFlintstone:Imagine thinking Cousins is the last piece to the puzzle in winning a SB lol. The obsession Kyle has with Kirk Cousins is just insane to me
I have no idea. Maybe they have tattoos of each other lmao. But one thing is for sure, kirk will be a top 8 qb under kyle
Brock was top 5 under Kyle.
Trey could be top 3.
I still think the issue with a qb like cousins is that if the defense has an off day or average day or the special teams does, it's a major uphill battle to still win with a guy like Kirk.
it's similar to jimmy, if the team doesn't play a clean game, it's a challenge to win. Shouldn't be that way with this roster.
im glad the Kirk cousins nonsense is coming from ridiculous corners of the internet and not anyone credible.
I know what you mean, but he is a little better than Jimmy. Jimmy was a play away a couple times, and I think our roster is better now and our path is easier than either of those seasons.
I'm not saying it's the right move, but I think Kyle is hell bent on getting it done after coming so close again. I Kirk was his prototype before seeing Mahomes and Allen play, i really wouldn't be shocked if he wants to make this trade
I would be shocked because of the salary cap constraints.
it may get us out of the NFC but I don't see it getting used last Mahommes/Burrow. I just don't think Kirk gives us an edge that we are missing. I think Purdy showed much more than cousins from a leadership and composure standpoint, not stats because Kirks been playing a long time.
i just don't see that move as making us a ton better. We are already favored to have the most wins in the league, per bettors.
if I was MIN, I'd take Trey Lance for Cousins. Lol no doubt. At least Trey is cost controlled and unknown - giving them optimism he could be better than cousins.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by q0c0p:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Imagine thinking Cousins is the last piece to the puzzle in winning a SB lol. The obsession Kyle has with Kirk Cousins is just insane to me
I have no idea. Maybe they have tattoos of each other lmao. But one thing is for sure, kirk will be a top 8 qb under kyle
Brock was top 5 under Kyle.
Trey could be top 3.
I still think the issue with a qb like cousins is that if the defense has an off day or average day or the special teams does, it's a major uphill battle to still win with a guy like Kirk.
it's similar to jimmy, if the team doesn't play a clean game, it's a challenge to win. Shouldn't be that way with this roster.
im glad the Kirk cousins nonsense is coming from ridiculous corners of the internet and not anyone credible.
I know what you mean, but he is a little better than Jimmy. Jimmy was a play away a couple times, and I think our roster is better now and our path is easier than either of those seasons.
I'm not saying it's the right move, but I think Kyle is hell bent on getting it done after coming so close again. I Kirk was his prototype before seeing Mahomes and Allen play, i really wouldn't be shocked if he wants to make this trade
I would be shocked because of the salary cap constraints.
it may get us out of the NFC but I don't see it getting used last Mahommes/Burrow. I just don't think Kirk gives us an edge that we are missing. I think Purdy showed much more than cousins from a leadership and composure standpoint, not stats because Kirks been playing a long time.
i just don't see that move as making us a ton better. We are already favored to have the most wins in the league, per bettors.
if I was MIN, I'd take Trey Lance for Cousins. Lol no doubt. At least Trey is cost controlled and unknown - giving them optimism he could be better than cousins.
I like Brock a lot too, but he does still have to keep proving it and show his arms the same. You have to put yourself in Kyles shoes when thinking about this. He probably thinks we win a SB for sure with Cousins. He knows that. I love Brock as much as anyone, but he still isn't proven. Kyles already been burned by QB regression. It just wouldn't shock me at all if he wanted the "sure SB" with Cousins this year