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Originally posted by hummbabybear:
49ers need three QBs. Regardless of how many times Grant Cohn says Trey will be traded, my bet is Shanahan carries all three on the roster this season.
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Just based on their film and overall experience. I can watch all of Treys tape from college and NFL and there's nothing that tells me he's better than Darnold.
I also base it off the fact that Kyle and John are already undermining Trey and don't have a lot of excitement about him and his future here. I know you guys don't want to see it that way, but anyone that's not a Trey homer sees it. Imo you'd have to be pretty bad for a team that spent all that draft capital to be ready to move on without seeing much.
Kyle has seen the film and he thinks Sam can play. I know the "Darnold is here just to save our ass if something extremely rare happens again" narrative sounds amazing and makes sense for us, but it doesn't for Darnold. He wouldnt sign here to just sit around for us in case lightning strikes twice
Watch a lot of film do you?
That's the thing with experience...you can't get it until you get it. Trey has more experience on this team and in this offense than Darnold does.
It took Matt Ryan 2 years to master Shanahan's offense. Darnold is here on a 1 year deal. We're just going to assume he comes in and picks up the playbook without issue? Maybe...but right now we haven't seen a single snap from him.
Kyle Shanahan has seen Trey Lance's film and thought he could play. Seems like you like to forget that part.
Darnold signed here because Purdy is on the shelf for who knows how long and has 8 starts under his belt. Trey is still recovering himself and has 4 starts under his belt. It's not that deep. He saw a great team in place and a spot where he could come in and compete and try to land a starting spot.
What other team this good has a question at QB whether injury wise or lack of starting experience wise? Not like he signed a 4 year deal here.
Kyle actually didn't like Treys film, he liked Trey the person and "hoped he'd see what he didn't see" in treys film. He went for the character and upside hoping it would work out, but the way things have played out it is not going to
lol you just love to interpret things the way you need them to be and you're delusional. Deadly combination.
Kyle Shanahan on Trey Lance
His natural ability to play the quarterback position, just in terms of how he plays in the pocket, how he can go through the progressions, how, when no one's open, that he gives it a chance, that he recognizes it. And how quick he reacts to turning it into an off-schedule play. He plays on tape like he's a very poised, smart person who's been playing the position for a while.
Then you look into the other attributes, and you're like "Oh, I haven't even gotten to the running skill set." I haven't gotten to the upside of how much better he can get, the more he plays. That's what made me like him so much right away.
Sure sounds like he hated Trey's tape...
Not to mention you got the quote backwards. They loved Trey's film but they wanted to see what the film wouldn't show them...the person and the trade up allowed them to dig into him and his intangibles and they loved that even more than the film. That in no way says Shanahan didn't like the film. WTF are you even trying to imply lol? That they made the move that they did to get a QB and picked the guy they liked as a person but didn't like his film...
Guess now I know why you call yourself Charlie Sheen, clearly you're into some heavy drugs.
Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:I like Brock a lot too, but he does still have to keep proving it and show his arms the same. You have to put yourself in Kyles shoes when thinking about this. He probably thinks we win a SB for sure with Cousins. In his mind he knows that. I love Brock as much as anyone, but he still isn't proven. Kyles already been burned by QB regression. It just wouldn't shock me at all if he wanted the "sure SB" with Cousins this year
Stop talking about Kirk Cousins. If Shanahan makes the move for Cousins I hope we fire him on the spot.
Cousins hasn't done anything in his NFL career that makes me think he's a better option to this team than Purdy and we know who costs way more money. Dude can't even play in big primetime games but we think he's going to instantly win us a SB?
Vikings were in the NFC Championship with Case Keenum before they got Kirk Cousins. Everyone thought he was going to put them over the top. They haven't sniffed the NFC Championship game since, let alone the SB.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
They didn't trade up for Trey. I think once they made the trade they realized they had no choice but to swing for the fences, and it seems like they whiffed big time
Originally posted by Polkadots:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:They didn't trade up for Trey. I think once they made the trade they realized they had no choice but to swing for the fences, and it seems like they whiffed big time
Can you explain this? It was obvious to anyone and everyone who picks one and two were going to be that year, so are you saying the 49ers traded up, knowing who would, and more importantly who would not, be available @3, and then just grabbed Trey because...?
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Somebody posted an interview with Kyle where he said they were still deciding who they were going to pick after the trade up. I think the idea of trading up to have the choice between Max/Trey/Fields kinda backfired in the sense that it forced their hand. Fields and Mac likely will never justify 3 firsts, so they went with the guy they convinced themselves they could mold into that
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Somebody posted an interview with Kyle where he said they were still deciding who they were going to pick after the trade up. I think the idea of trading up to have the choice between Max/Trey/Fields kinda backfired in the sense that it forced their hand. Fields and Mac likely will never justify 3 firsts, so they went with the guy they convinced themselves they could mold into that
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
49ers need three QBs. Regardless of how many times Grant Cohn says Trey will be traded, my bet is Shanahan carries all three on the roster this season.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by hummbabybear:
49ers need three QBs. Regardless of how many times Grant Cohn says Trey will be traded, my bet is Shanahan carries all three on the roster this season.
He is gonna carry all 3 because we do not know who the franchise is yet. Because we can't keep a QB healthy yet. Because we don't have our Pat Mahomes yet. We are not looking for a QB fans like. We are looking for that guy that can beat Pat Mahomes in a Super Bowl!!
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Lance for Cousins straight up would be a fleece on the Vikings behalf. Niners get a mid tier expensive QB who turns 35 in August and the Vikings get a 22 year old guy who could be their franchise QB for the next 15 years who is cheap for the next 3 years. Vikings should have to throw in a draft pick to just get the Niners to take Cousins and his 2023 contract off their hands. Really, Trey shouldn't even have to be involved in the trade.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why? The only way that makes sense is if you believe #1 and #2 go down in the same game.
Originally posted by JTB1974:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:Somebody posted an interview with Kyle where he said they were still deciding who they were going to pick after the trade up. I think the idea of trading up to have the choice between Max/Trey/Fields kinda backfired in the sense that it forced their hand. Fields and Mac likely will never justify 3 firsts, so they went with the guy they convinced themselves they could mold into that
The only thing worse than trading 3 1st RD picks for the wrong guy is trading that for the right guy but deciding he's the wrong guy without giving him a chance.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why? The only way that makes sense is if you believe #1 and #2 go down in the same game.
They did it just last season. Through Trey's season ending injury in week 2 they had three QBs on the active roster. I don't think they did that because they believed Trey and Jimmy would go down in the same game. They wanted to protect Brock from what's been reported. To act like it doesn't make sense that they would do this (again) when they actually did exactly that last year, without dealing with the current injury/performance questions, is odd.
I don't know how anybody looks at Darnold's contract and thinks he's a legitimate practice squad candidate. It really is absurd.
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
He's had a chance. He just fell behind and the circumstances have stacked heavily against him. Does Kyle sacrifice the best team he's ever had for Treys development? Maybe if he really still believed in Trey and thought he was a sure thing. Even then I think he would still lose the locker room. It's just a tough spot for Trey the way everything has played out