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  • Furlow
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Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

He got signed as a freaking backup. Dude go back to complaining about genders lmao.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.
[ Edited by TreyDeyEeyDey on Apr 18, 2023 at 10:18 AM ]
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.

It's not the signing nor contract necessarily, it's Kyle's words and what is pretty clear on tape. Have you watched any tape of Darnold from last season? He improved a ton and ran a system very similar to Kyle's. No one is saying anything about Darnold that Kyle himself didn't also say. So again, is Kyle a Darnold stan?
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.

It's not the signing nor contract necessarily, it's Kyle's words and what is pretty clear on tape. Have you watched any tape of Darnold from last season? He improved a ton and ran a system very similar to Kyle's. No one is saying anything about Darnold that Kyle himself didn't also say. So again, is Kyle a Darnold stan?

"Nate's got the skillset to be very successful in this league," Shanahan said. "And he hasn't gotten a ton of opportunities to get in there, but I think our team believes in him. I believe in him. And what he's done in practice is what we go off of. And I think if he does get that opportunity, he'll be ready for it."
-Kyle on Nate Sudfield after him signing a one year deal
[ Edited by TreyDeyEeyDey on Apr 18, 2023 at 10:32 AM ]
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
"Nate's got the skillset to be very successful in this league," Shanahan said. "And he hasn't gotten a ton of opportunities to get in there, but I think our team believes in him. I believe in him. And what he's done in practice is what we go off of. And I think if he does get that opportunity, he'll be ready for it."
-Kyle on Nate Sudfield after him signing a one year deal

Suds - 0 career starts
Darnold - 55 starts

yup, same caliber player, I don't see any difference
  • Furlow
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Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.

It's not the signing nor contract necessarily, it's Kyle's words and what is pretty clear on tape. Have you watched any tape of Darnold from last season? He improved a ton and ran a system very similar to Kyle's. No one is saying anything about Darnold that Kyle himself didn't also say. So again, is Kyle a Darnold stan?

"Nate's got the skillset to be very successful in this league," Shanahan said. "And he hasn't gotten a ton of opportunities to get in there, but I think our team believes in him. I believe in him. And what he's done in practice is what we go off of. And I think if he does get that opportunity, he'll be ready for it."
-Kyle on Nate Sudfield after him signing a one year deal

You think that compares to:

"Sam has as good of a skill set as there is," Shanahan told reporters at the NFL owners meetings in Phoenix this week. "That's why he went as the third pick in the draft. When you study his play, you can see it, too."
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
"Nate's got the skillset to be very successful in this league," Shanahan said. "And he hasn't gotten a ton of opportunities to get in there, but I think our team believes in him. I believe in him. And what he's done in practice is what we go off of. And I think if he does get that opportunity, he'll be ready for it."
-Kyle on Nate Sudfield after him signing a one year deal

Suds - 0 career starts
Darnold - 55 starts

yup, same caliber player, I don't see any difference

Yet you can't even name me a single area Darnold is good at. Lol he can't even complete 60% of his passes.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.

It's not the signing nor contract necessarily, it's Kyle's words and what is pretty clear on tape. Have you watched any tape of Darnold from last season? He improved a ton and ran a system very similar to Kyle's. No one is saying anything about Darnold that Kyle himself didn't also say. So again, is Kyle a Darnold stan?

I dont think anyone on here expects darnold to be a superstar here. Lol many just think he will/would perform better than Lance.

which is a real possibility. It's up to Lance to perform this off season to show he can be better than darnold and vice versa. which in Lance's few starts, he hasn't done anything that darnold can't.

it'll be fun to follow it. Personally, if either are starting and Purdy isn't - we don't have much of a chance to compete for the Super Bowl. They can probably win a few regular season games but we are screwed if either are the starter in the playoffs. Let's just hope Purdy heals up properly.
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
"Nate's got the skillset to be very successful in this league," Shanahan said. "And he hasn't gotten a ton of opportunities to get in there, but I think our team believes in him. I believe in him. And what he's done in practice is what we go off of. And I think if he does get that opportunity, he'll be ready for it."
-Kyle on Nate Sudfield after him signing a one year deal

Suds - 0 career starts
Darnold - 55 starts

yup, same caliber player, I don't see any difference

Yet you can't even name me a single area Darnold is good at. Lol he can't even complete 60% of his passes.

Lmao bro. The same exact thing can be said for Lance? You can't name a single thing he doesn't need a ton of improvement in. He also can't complete 60% of his passes. In his three stsrts, he's 55% and in 2/3 of his starts that he completed - he was worse than that. He threw 0 touchdowns in 2/3 starts and has averaged 14Ppg as a starter. He couldn't put up 11 points in 2/3 games.

don't understand how you can bash darnold and somehow have this impression Lance is much better in his small amount of starts? Lance couldn't lead the offense to a touchdown in 10.5/12 of his quarters of play as a starter. Lol stop it.

only thing you can say is we don't know the final product of Lance and you hope he does better.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Apr 18, 2023 at 10:47 AM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
"Nate's got the skillset to be very successful in this league," Shanahan said. "And he hasn't gotten a ton of opportunities to get in there, but I think our team believes in him. I believe in him. And what he's done in practice is what we go off of. And I think if he does get that opportunity, he'll be ready for it."
-Kyle on Nate Sudfield after him signing a one year deal

Suds - 0 career starts
Darnold - 55 starts

yup, same caliber player, I don't see any difference

Yet you can't even name me a single area Darnold is good at. Lol he can't even complete 60% of his passes.

Lmao bro. The same exact thing can be said for Lance? You can't name a single thing he doesn't need a ton of improvement in. He also can't complete 60% of his passes. In his three stsrts, he's 55% and in 2/3 of his starts that he completed - he was worse than that. He threw 0 touchdowns in 2/3 starts and has averaged 14Ppg as a starter. He couldn't put up 11 points in 2/3 games.

don't understand how you can bash darnold and somehow have this impression Lance is much better in his small amount of starts? Lance couldn't lead the offense to a touchdown in 10.5/12 of his quarters of play as a starter. Lol stop it

Lance is 4 games in lol. Darnold is a proven bust. Pretty damn different. You're the one not seeing common sense here. Darnold has a track record of playing like s**t. Trey hasn't even had the chance.
[ Edited by TreyDeyEeyDey on Apr 18, 2023 at 10:48 AM ]
Deadspin looks at the 49er QB situation, they don't seem to like it :

This latest news on Purdy's recovery puts the 49ers in a situation where head coach Kyle Shanahan might be forced to choose between a guy considered a bust after five less-than-stellar years in the NFL and a young QB who many feel is on the fast road to bust-ville based on health and has shown little improvement on the field in his first two years. Either way, it's not the best position for the Niners coaching staff.

Once again, they'll have a team that's ready to win as they have for the past few years, and the same problem continues to occur. They can't seem to nail down the QB spot and keep a guy on the field an entire season. Everyone seems to have an opinion on Jimmy G, but had he been able to stay healthy while leading the Niners' offense, he'd probably still be in San Francisco. He might not have the best arm, but they did win when he was on the field.

Indeed, the 49ers could dip into the free agent market again and grab one more body to compete against Darnold and Lance during training camp. But at this point, all the coveted free-agent QBs have been taken off the board. Unless they want to contact a player like Cam Newton, and he isn't even a sure thing at this point in his career. SF could draft another QB, but hoping for lightning to strike back-to-back years is insane and not likely to happen.

https://deadspin.com/nfl-san-francisco-49ers-brock-purdy-trey-lance-darnold-1850348761
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.

It's not the signing nor contract necessarily, it's Kyle's words and what is pretty clear on tape. Have you watched any tape of Darnold from last season? He improved a ton and ran a system very similar to Kyle's. No one is saying anything about Darnold that Kyle himself didn't also say. So again, is Kyle a Darnold stan?

He improved a ton? Really? I guess when the bulk of your career you're a turnover machine then only having 9 turnover worthy plays in 6 starts is an improvement.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.

It's not the signing nor contract necessarily, it's Kyle's words and what is pretty clear on tape. Have you watched any tape of Darnold from last season? He improved a ton and ran a system very similar to Kyle's. No one is saying anything about Darnold that Kyle himself didn't also say. So again, is Kyle a Darnold stan?

I dont think anyone on here expects darnold to be a superstar here. Lol many just think he will/would perform better than Lance.

which is a real possibility. It's up to Lance to perform this off season to show he can be better than darnold and vice versa. which in Lance's few starts, he hasn't done anything that darnold can't.

it'll be fun to follow it. Personally, if either are starting and Purdy isn't - we don't have much of a chance to compete for the Super Bowl. They can probably win a few regular season games but we are screwed if either are the starter in the playoffs. Let's just hope Purdy heals up properly.


Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
Lol I never thought I'd see the day where we officially have career bust Sam. Darnold Stans .

I just can't

So Kyle is a Darnold stan too, then?

What has Darnold accomplished? Be specific. I don't think signing a guy to a one year deal says much. He's a third option. Better than Josh Johnson but he's not going to catch the world on fire like many here think. There's a reason it was a one year contract.

It's not the signing nor contract necessarily, it's Kyle's words and what is pretty clear on tape. Have you watched any tape of Darnold from last season? He improved a ton and ran a system very similar to Kyle's. No one is saying anything about Darnold that Kyle himself didn't also say. So again, is Kyle a Darnold stan?

I dont think anyone on here expects darnold to be a superstar here. Lol many just think he will/would perform better than Lance.

which is a real possibility. It's up to Lance to perform this off season to show he can be better than darnold and vice versa. which in Lance's few starts, he hasn't done anything that darnold can't.

it'll be fun to follow it. Personally, if either are starting and Purdy isn't - we don't have much of a chance to compete for the Super Bowl. They can probably win a few regular season games but we are screwed if either are the starter in the playoffs. Let's just hope Purdy heals up properly.

Agreed with all of this. Would barely be a topic if Purdy was healthy. But since he's not and Trey or Darnold are likely starting, it's a legit discussion.
Michael Silver on TL value, not sure if ppl picked up on this I didn't:

Longtime NFL reporter Mike Silver, who also writes for the San Francisco Chronicle reported the following on Lance's market in January.

"Even if the Niners are receptive to potential trade offers for Lance after the season, they won't come close to recouping that haul. Based on my conversations with several teams' general managers (and other high- ranking front-office executives), Lance would be unlikely to net much more than a third- round selection, though it's possible there's a team out there motivated to give more."
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