Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Come on, tankle, let's keep the convo going.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Vikings get: QB Trey Lance, 3-102, 6-216 (from SF), 2-63 (from PHI)
49ers get: 1-21, QB Nick Mullens (from MIN)
Eagles get: 3-99, 3-101 (from SF), 2025 fourth-round pick (from MIN)

three way trade?
(9moon has entered the chat)

this is from Bill Barnwell of ESPN

Horrible trade on many levels.

49ers would pick 21 but not again until 155. No thx i'd rather have those 3 late 3rds.

Also if the Niners wanted Mullens they would have signed him as a free agent last month.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
The Justin Fields fans getting ready to be real loud.

Justin should have been the pick if he truly wanted the running element. JF looks like crap passing sp far but he should have been the pick over Trey. No questions asked

I agree with the bolded for sure. Trey fits Kyle's system better though IMO.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/19/vikings-49ers-talked-trey-lance-at-the-scouting-combine/

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Screening offers if you don't think Trey is your future at the position is 100% smart business. Trading him for peanuts is another story.

If the 49ers do what's totally irrational to me and trade Lance only to use one of our early picks on DTR I'd be absolutely livid and super concerned about the direction of this team and we all better come together in one big prayer circle and hope Brock Purdy is 100% healthy and a stud for the next 15+ years.

I don't have an issue with DTR but what would bother me the most is how awful our evaluation was of Trey given the move to get him. You make such a huge move and you give up on him after only 4 starts and you move him with so much uncertainty in the QB room and replace him with a guy with similar skillsets but just more college experience but another complete unknown in the NFL.

Would just blow my mind and should scare the hell out of people.

I think you hit the nail on the head. DTR has similar skillset and more experience. Just because Trey was billed to be the next great thing doesn't mean he's going to be. The fact that DTR is more experience he's essentially already ahead of where Trey is now as we speak.

DTR only 6 months older than Trey. He's cheaper. We'd have him 2 years longer (assuming SF wouldn't use 5th year option on a backup QB.) And again same skillset with more experience.

It's funny, some said the same thing about the front office for making that move in the 1st place. Yet most was blinded by the potential to see how bad of a move it was. Yet I read some of you criticize them for giving up "too early" but those who criticized the move from the beginning weren't real fans.

Sounds like some of you are no longer "real fans"

I have no issues with the move up. You need to get a franchise QB. They knew what they were getting with Lance. The whole idea per them was to sit him for a year and let him learn then let him grow.

We ran him into the ground and now throwing him away? That sits VERY poorly with me and it should sit poorly with every other 49ers fan. If Kyle Shanahan needs to luck into the QB position to be successful that's a really tough ask.

I can understand the logic in trading Trey and picking up another rookie QB they like if they know Brock is the guy. What I can't grasp my mind around is taking that risk that Brock won't be the guy he was before the injury.

Are we looking for a QB to replace Brock in a couple of years? Are we going to push Brock aside for DTR?

They talk about a win now team. Given what happened last season the best way to throw a wrench into the whole SB run is to move a guy who's been in your system and scratching the surface of what he can do in the league to go with Sam Darnold who hasn't even played in your system yet and another rookie.

At least if they trade him after June 1st we actually save cap space.

If they want to draft DTR and then let Trey, DTR and Darnold compete in camp and find out Brock is coming back healthy and looking good...then I get the move even though I'd still dislike it but at least then you actually evaluated and confirmed what you have or don't have in Lance.

Kid has had 4 starts and we all know the circumstances surrounding those games. I just can't understand how ego driven Kyle is to bash Trey for playing the way he did in Chicago with those conditions.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I thought if was a safe pick. He just hasn't showed his potential yet, because of lack of experience and injury issues, that has dwarted his develpment.

Safe pick?

Yeah, I think it was by far the riskiest pick.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
The Justin Fields fans getting ready to be real loud.

I doubt anyone in Santa Clara is losing sleep over passing on the 2023 version of Kordell Stewart.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I thought if was a safe pick. He just hasn't showed his potential yet, because of lack of experience and injury issues, that has dwarted his develpment.

Safe pick?

Yeah, I think it was by far the riskiest pick.

Every pick, is risky.

Fielding calls is a long way from actually making a deal. I think they're crazy if they trade him for anything less than a 1st round pick and I doubt many teams are going to offer that. They still don't know what they have with trey or for that matter Purdy. He has to show he can come back from the surgery and then play as well as he did last year.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I thought if was a safe pick. He just hasn't showed his potential yet, because of lack of experience and injury issues, that has dwarted his develpment.

Safe pick?

Yeah, I think it was by far the riskiest pick.

Every pick, is risky.

Correct, but because Trey played so little games and in the FCS, he was extremely unknown. Making him by far the riskiest. You knew what you were getting with mac and fields. Literally no clue what Lance was/would be, and still don't. Or at least had an idea of the other two.

Lance is probably the most unknown and raw qb ever taken that high in a draft.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Fielding calls is a long way from actually making a deal. I think they're crazy if they trade him for anything less than a 1st round pick and I doubt many teams are going to offer that. They still don't know what they have with trey or for that matter Purdy. He has to show he can come back from the surgery and then play as well as he did last year.

Thier just fielding calls, just doing their due delligence before the draft.

Hated the trade from day 1. Had they stayed at 12 Jones or Fields would have been available. Now maybe they'd have to have moved up a few just to be sure they got their guy but it would not have cost TWO Future 1's. Maybe they would have dealt the 2022 1st rounder to move up but giving up the 2023 was just too much IMO.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
The Justin Fields fans getting ready to be real loud.

I doubt anyone in Santa Clara is losing sleep over passing on the 2023 version of Kordell Stewart.

just wait til you see him play in 2023 with actual receivers

recall the week 1 SF CHI game, he was throwing to D. Pettis and EQ St Brown, those are cut players, they now have DJ Moore, Claypool and Mooney in a #3 role.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
The Justin Fields fans getting ready to be real loud.

I doubt anyone in Santa Clara is losing sleep over passing on the 2023 version of Kordell Stewart.

Lol still won't change how loud some I told you so fans will be.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I thought if was a safe pick. He just hasn't showed his potential yet, because of lack of experience and injury issues, that has dwarted his develpment.

Safe pick?

Yeah, I think it was by far the riskiest pick.

Every pick, is risky.

Correct, but because Trey played so little games and in the FCS, he was extremely unknown. Making him by far the riskiest. You knew what you were getting with mac and fields. Literally no clue what Lance was/would be, and still don't. Or at least had an idea of the other two.

Lance is probably the most unknown and raw qb ever taken that high in a draft.

I can live with riskiest, I can go with that, considering lack of games played in college, because of Covid and being an FCS school, where competition, might not have been the best.