Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
Hated the trade from day 1. Had they stayed at 12 Jones or Fields would have been available. Now maybe they'd have to have moved up a few just to be sure they got their guy but it would not have cost TWO Future 1's. Maybe they would have dealt the 2022 1st rounder to move up but giving up the 2023 was just too much IMO.

Jones?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
just wait til you see him play in 2023 with actual receivers

recall the week 1 SF CHI game, he was throwing to D. Pettis and EQ St Brown, those are cut players, they now have DJ Moore, Claypool and Mooney in a #3 role.

Bears re-signed Pettis.

It's all shaping up for Lance to be traded.
Young will go 1. I would love Stroud next bit Houston wants Anderson. Stroud to a team trading up at 3 or to Indy at 4. Then you get Richardson and Levis but they come with question marks so I don't see a trade up for them. That might take Raiders and Seattle out of the trade market.
You likely have Tenn, Houston, Washington, Atlanta, and Minn calling for Lance.
He's still young,on a cheap contract, and loaded with potential.
Like others have pointed out, busts have gotten a good return.
Lance will do well with a fresh start where he gets all the reps and grows with an improving team.

I'm calling Lance to Houston for this 2nd and 4th.
They have extra picks. They can go D with both their 1st picks to get Ryan a great D.
They have the inside info to know Lance isn't a bust but was just raw.
If he fails there,they have the picks to go for a top QB next year.

Those extra picks lets us really fill the holes we have with good talent. We would be able to go OT in rnd 2 or surprise with a top TE.

Also. No DTR in the draft. They will pick someone
In the 7th they can fit on the practice squad. If they took one earlier,it would be Haener

Originally posted by mayo49:
Jones?

Jones at 12 plus SF would have had their 2022 and 2023 First Round Picks. I'll take those 3 players over Trey Lance.

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Jones?

Jones at 12 plus SF would have had their 2022 and 2023 First Round Picks. I'll take those 3 players over Trey Lance.

Jones at #12 would have been kind of high, but I would have done it.

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Vikings get: QB Trey Lance, 3-102, 6-216 (from SF), 2-63 (from PHI)
49ers get: 1-21, QB Nick Mullens (from MIN)
Eagles get: 3-99, 3-101 (from SF), 2025 fourth-round pick (from MIN)

three way trade?
(9moon has entered the chat)

this is from Bill Barnwell of ESPN

Horrible trade on many levels.

49ers would pick 21 but not again until 155. No thx i'd rather have those 3 late 3rds.

Also if the Niners wanted Mullens they would have signed him as a free agent last month.

Here was the explanation from ol Billy Beanbags, complete with many references to Kirk Cousins

Here's how the Vikings get their quarterback of the future and the 49ers get back into the first day of the draft. It feels like this three-way trade should somehow involve Kirk Cousins ending up with the 49ers, but cap constraints on both sides make that impossible. If this were the NBA or NHL, we would include a fourth team to take on some of the money due to Cousins' contract, but the NFL would likely frown upon that sort of deal.

As it is, we have two trades. First, the 49ers would send their third-year quarterback and pick Nos. 99, 101 and 102 to the Vikings to move all the way up to No. 21. Those are also San Francisco's top three selections as a result of the trades for Lance and Christian McCaffrey. This deal values Lance as being worth the 39th pick in a typical draft, which is probably fair given what little we know about him after his first two seasons. Nothing about how the Niners have handled his situation suggests they still value him like the player they gave up three first-round picks to acquire. They would also include a late sixth-round selection to reunite with Mullens, who would be displaced as the Minnesota backup.

Then, to avoid going without first- and second-round picks themselves, the Vikings would package pick Nos. 99 and 101 alongside a future fourth-rounder in a deal with the Eagles to move up to the bottom of Round 2. Minnesota would end up with no first-round pick and selections toward the bottom of the second and third rounds, but it would also land Lance, a long-term replacement for Cousins.

The 49ers would give up on Lance, but they would move forward for now with Mullens, Brock Purdy and Sam Darnold as their options under center before considering a reunion between Cousins and Kyle Shanahan in free agency next year. Moving up to No. 21 would allow them to draft a replacement for right tackle Mike McGlinchey, who left in free agency. Broderick Jones (Georgia) or Darnell Wright (Tennessee) could be available there.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
Hated the trade from day 1. Had they stayed at 12 Jones or Fields would have been available. Now maybe they'd have to have moved up a few just to be sure they got their guy but it would not have cost TWO Future 1's. Maybe they would have dealt the 2022 1st rounder to move up but giving up the 2023 was just too much IMO.

Jones?

Right I was all for Fields or Lance but Jones ain't it.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
Hated the trade from day 1. Had they stayed at 12 Jones or Fields would have been available. Now maybe they'd have to have moved up a few just to be sure they got their guy but it would not have cost TWO Future 1's. Maybe they would have dealt the 2022 1st rounder to move up but giving up the 2023 was just too much IMO.

Jones?

Right I was all for Fields or Lance but Jones ain't it.

He was good in college, that's what got him drafted.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Jones?

Jones at 12 plus SF would have had their 2022 and 2023 First Round Picks. I'll take those 3 players over Trey Lance.

Jones at #12 would have been kind of high, but I would have done it.

Trey and Mac haven't shown anything great. But at least with Jones the niners would have had extra draft picks. Truth is they both have failed to live up to anything.

Originally posted by genus49:
I have no issues with the move up. You need to get a franchise QB. They knew what they were getting with Lance. The whole idea per them was to sit him for a year and let him learn then let him grow.

We ran him into the ground and now throwing him away? That sits VERY poorly with me and it should sit poorly with every other 49ers fan. If Kyle Shanahan needs to luck into the QB position to be successful that's a really tough ask.

I can understand the logic in trading Trey and picking up another rookie QB they like if they know Brock is the guy. What I can't grasp my mind around is taking that risk that Brock won't be the guy he was before the injury.

Are we looking for a QB to replace Brock in a couple of years? Are we going to push Brock aside for DTR?

They talk about a win now team. Given what happened last season the best way to throw a wrench into the whole SB run is to move a guy who's been in your system and scratching the surface of what he can do in the league to go with Sam Darnold who hasn't even played in your system yet and another rookie.

At least if they trade him after June 1st we actually save cap space.

If they want to draft DTR and then let Trey, DTR and Darnold compete in camp and find out Brock is coming back healthy and looking good...then I get the move even though I'd still dislike it but at least then you actually evaluated and confirmed what you have or don't have in Lance.

Kid has had 4 starts and we all know the circumstances surrounding those games. I just can't understand how ego driven Kyle is to bash Trey for playing the way he did in Chicago with those conditions.

IMO the only question mark surrounding Brock is the longevity of that elbow.

If Brock misses games and DTR gets to play and has the offense running on all cylinders and he out plays Brock then sure he could unseat him.

I think they already know what they have in Lance or at least know what they don't have in him. If they know, and it seems they do, that Brock is the guy. There is zero reason to keep Trey. Especially if they feel some type of way about DTR. In DTR they'd still be able to develop a guy in the same skillset without the pressures of having to start him or answer questions about starting him. Plus he's cheaper and you'd have him longer.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Jones?

Jones at 12 plus SF would have had their 2022 and 2023 First Round Picks. I'll take those 3 players over Trey Lance.

Jones at #12 would have been kind of high, but I would have done it.

Trey and Mac haven't shown anything great. But at least with Jones the niners would have had extra draft picks. Truth is they both have failed to live up to anything.

Trey has more potential. Mac is nothing special.

the word I keep hearing that the 49ers have 'soured' on Lance.. if true..

is this cuz he can't do the job / play?
or other concerns?

here it is from Yahoo Sports: 'But the 49ers seem to have soured on Lance.'

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Jones?

Jones at 12 plus SF would have had their 2022 and 2023 First Round Picks. I'll take those 3 players over Trey Lance.

I was a Mac Jones fan when he was at Bama and all for drafting him at #12. So glad the 9ers didn't though, his attitude has been crap in the NFL and that's probably a reason/rumors why Belichick wants to get rid of him.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Here was the explanation from ol Billy Beanbags, complete with many references to Kirk Cousins

Here's how the Vikings get their quarterback of the future and the 49ers get back into the first day of the draft. It feels like this three-way trade should somehow involve Kirk Cousins ending up with the 49ers, but cap constraints on both sides make that impossible. If this were the NBA or NHL, we would include a fourth team to take on some of the money due to Cousins' contract, but the NFL would likely frown upon that sort of deal.

As it is, we have two trades. First, the 49ers would send their third-year quarterback and pick Nos. 99, 101 and 102 to the Vikings to move all the way up to No. 21. Those are also San Francisco's top three selections as a result of the trades for Lance and Christian McCaffrey. This deal values Lance as being worth the 39th pick in a typical draft, which is probably fair given what little we know about him after his first two seasons. Nothing about how the Niners have handled his situation suggests they still value him like the player they gave up three first-round picks to acquire. They would also include a late sixth-round selection to reunite with Mullens, who would be displaced as the Minnesota backup.

Then, to avoid going without first- and second-round picks themselves, the Vikings would package pick Nos. 99 and 101 alongside a future fourth-rounder in a deal with the Eagles to move up to the bottom of Round 2. Minnesota would end up with no first-round pick and selections toward the bottom of the second and third rounds, but it would also land Lance, a long-term replacement for Cousins.

The 49ers would give up on Lance, but they would move forward for now with Mullens, Brock Purdy and Sam Darnold as their options under center before considering a reunion between Cousins and Kyle Shanahan in free agency next year. Moving up to No. 21 would allow them to draft a replacement for right tackle Mike McGlinchey, who left in free agency. Broderick Jones (Georgia) or Darnell Wright (Tennessee) could be available there.

Absolutely not with this trade proposal

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Jones?

Jones at 12 plus SF would have had their 2022 and 2023 First Round Picks. I'll take those 3 players over Trey Lance.

I was a Mac Jones fan when he was at Bama and all for drafting him at #12. So glad the 9ers didn't though, his attitude has been crap in the NFL and that's probably a reason/rumors why Belichick wants to get rid of him.

Jones is a dude, in my eyes. Good, player at Bama, though.