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Apr 19, 2023 at 10:30 AM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Cousin would want to be a starter. No, way he stays to be a backup.

Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

KC would be plug n play from day 1 while BCB heals up... Cousins fits in with the win now roster/window we have
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Hahaha and they would give Kirk an extension. Only way to make the cap work. Brock would be back to the butt bench and fans would be f**king livid.

I don't like that! I don't like that!
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:32 AM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

Would Kirk stay healthy here? Dude was 1-3 as a starter under Kyle and his numbers weren't great.
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:32 AM
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
He's not getting traded

just a bunch of off-season hoopla as usual

Agreed. Lance I think will prove to be a lot better than people think. That said, sure, he'd have to do an awful lot to unseat Brock. But IMO we can get a lot more from him next off-season if he gets a real chance to play and win some games.

Darnold isn't a starter. Believe me, I've watched enough of him to know that it wasn't just his situation. He simply didn't take care of the ball. Shanahan hates when guys "do something stupid" (in his own words), and I think he'd be incredibly unhappy with Sam if he had to start too many games. Lance not only has better upside and mobility, he's smarter with the football, despite his inexperience.

For Sam.. Look at how many of these horrific throws were where he wasn't even under pressure.



I want no part of him taking snaps as a starter outside of being an emergency #3. Despite the contract he got, I don't even think he's necessarily a lock to make the roster.
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:32 AM
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
KC would be plug n play from day 1 while BCB heals up... Cousins fits in with the win now roster/window we have

some questions.. he's 35 next season, and it's a contract year.. is this a one year rental or Kirk?

Can we fit his contract?
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Cousin would want to be a starter. No, way he stays to be a backup.

Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

Brock is the starter. That's why their calling about Trey. They know he has no future in SF with Dirty have established himself as the starter.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 19, 2023 at 10:35 AM ]
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:34 AM
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Cousin would want to be a starter. No, way he stays to be a backup.

Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

In 2023, Cousins will earn a base salary of $10,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $20,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $20,250,000 and a dead cap value of $48,750,000.

So, it would have to be goodbye to a number of players. Bosa, for example. And Trent Williams.

not going to happen.
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:35 AM
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Cousin would want to be a starter. No, way he stays to be a backup.

Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

Brock is the starter. That's the reason everyone is calling about Trey. They know he has no future in SF with Dirty have established himself as the starter.

Yeah if BP returns to health, prior to week 1, TL may be the one asking to be moved it may be a situation

they seem to handle this stuff well, recall last year they handled the JG situation well
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:36 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

Would Kirk stay healthy here? Dude was 1-3 as a starter under Kyle and his numbers weren't great.

That was 10 years ago. Kirk has played 8 straight seasons of 15-16 games.
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

Would Kirk stay healthy here? Dude was 1-3 as a starter under Kyle and his numbers weren't great.

That was 10 years ago. Kirk has played 8 straight seasons of 15-16 games.

Yeah, he's been pretty dependable.
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:38 AM
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Cousin would want to be a starter. No, way he stays to be a backup.

Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

In 2023, Cousins will earn a base salary of $10,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $20,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $20,250,000 and a dead cap value of $48,750,000.

So, it would have to be goodbye to a number of players. Bosa, for example. And Trent Williams.

not going to happen.

They can find a way to make it work. Are we really benefitting from not paying for a QB if our QBs can't stay healthy and get the job done?
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Cousin would want to be a starter. No, way he stays to be a backup.

Cousins would be the starter. He's experienced, has played at a consistently high level, and he stays healthy. Three things no other QB on the roster can say.

Brock is the starter. That's the reason everyone is calling about Trey. They know he has no future in SF with Dirty have established himself as the starter.

Yeah if BP returns to health, prior to week 1, TL may be the one asking to be moved it may be a situation

they seem to handle this stuff well, recall last year they handled the JG situation well

They got Darnold, in case Dirty is not ready to start the season. That gives us the green light to move Trey.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 19, 2023 at 10:41 AM ]
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:39 AM
Nobody knows for certain what Brock's status is. As he has mentioned, he doesn't know if he will be playing this yr. Now the question is, did JL/KS suggest he say that to make Trey's value as a potential starter be higher , or was Brock just telling it like it is?

The retrospectoscope can't be used here, because of a number of issues. Jimmy was an excellent qB but had injury problems. We needed a starter QB. So taking a top 3 pick in draft was reasonable. But picking a kid with only 1 yr of starts at NDSU, plus 1 game the following season due to covid, was not such a hot idea, altho i can sure understand Kyle's reason for doing so.

On top of that, then the bad juju happened and once Trey gets his start, he breaks his ankle, and is lost to the season. Worse for Trey, the last pick in the draft turns out to be solid gold in Mr VERY relevant. This was bad juju again for Trey.

Now JimmyG is gone, but the "from out of nowhere starter" , Brock is rehabbing his shoulder. This is ugly juju for the 9ers who picked up Darnold , but it is hard to imagine him leading us to the SB. All this leaves Trey in "nowhere" land. If Brock truly is unable to play this yr, virtually everyone would much rather have Trey than Darnold (well, most everyone). Trey deserves a shot to start somewhere else, but if Brock is not 100% this yr, i sure would rather have Trey at QB than our other choice.

What a hot mess. Safe play says to keep Trey at least until Brock's shoulder status returns to hopefully normal. I would love to see him start elsewhere, but frankly, we need him as a backup until we know Brock's status. Nothing wrong in listening to trade offers, but having Darnold as our only backup…I dunno about that one. Since Trey is not going to bring near his original trade value , we should sit pat…if Brock is okay shoulder wise and we know that half way thru season, we could always make a late season trade (under the deadline). But to do so now? Sure sounds unwise from where I sit.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Apr 19, 2023 at 10:41 AM ]
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:39 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by boast:

In exchange for Cousins according to Florio.

Hahaha and they would give Kirk an extension. Only way to make the cap work. Brock would be back to the butt bench and fans would be f**king livid.

I for sure would.
[ Edited by krizay on Apr 19, 2023 at 10:50 AM ]
Apr 19, 2023 at 10:40 AM
Originally posted by English:
In 2023, Cousins will earn a base salary of $10,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $20,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $20,250,000 and a dead cap value of $48,750,000.

So, it would have to be goodbye to a number of players. Bosa, for example. And Trent Williams.

not going to happen.

It would only be 10 million to us. MINNESOTA has all the other problems
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