Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:
Fields looks, like he would have been the better pick.

Fields? Great runner and playmaker, big arm but he´s the type of QB Shanahan hates.
He takes too many unecessary sacks because he ´s too slow to take a decision in the pocket.
It´s like watching a rich version of CJ Beathard in the pocket.
His ceiling is really high and maybe that with time and a better supporting cast he will be awesome.
But there´s a reason Shanahan wasn´t interested in him.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
All this talk of Cousins isn't looking at it from the Vikings perspective.. they won 13 games last season

Why would they trade out their QB1? Who would they start at QB? Trey? Mullens? That is not in their own self interest. They want a prospect to pair with Cousins, so that they can move on from Cousins in 2024. They may not be able to land a top guy in round 1, they may be gone by that time. They want Cousins and TL. Not Cousins for TL, would be my guess. I don't think he's available.

I wouldn't trade Trey for their one. They can kick rocks.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
thank Mr Clean on this one, Saleh making us look good on this front
he bailed us

Jets didn't use three first round picks to acquire Wilson.

trust me I know this point well, and it's been a sticking point for me.. I never understood why we cashed at that in on what looks to me to be a very raw, long ways off, prospect. I never viewed TL as top of the NFL draft material at QB. With any reasonable deployment of those picks, we may already have #6 in the trophy case, if we squeezed any production out of them in the last 2 years, when we were very close to winning it all.

that said, TL > Wilson.. I think TL is in the Mac tier.

It goes JF and Lawrence in top tier, Mac and TL in the question marks tier, and Wilson as the

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Why not trade him, now? People are calling and he's going to be gone anyways.

Because we have a QB with a broken elbow and a small sample size of playing well. Let's stop with the hope s**t for two secs with him. No one knows what he will be long-term. No one knows if he will be able to play at that level consistently. Toss in one the worst starting QBs in the NFL for 5 years. That's the depth chart?! For a team that breaks QBs daily?

So what you gonna get a couple day 2/3 conditional picks? Who f**king cares..they have a ton of those already. This draft stinks overall. There's like 10 players with a 1st rd grade.

there's absolutely no reason to move him…none. even if you think he stinks. They need QBs. You're not getting some legit compensation now.

if kyle QBs John thinks he blows well someone needs to be fired. Period. Being lucky with Brock doesn't make up for that s**t. It could be another Jimmy G giving the keys to the city situation all over again

also haven't you learned that you can't talk in absolutes about any QB here? Saying he's gonna be gone anyway is not fact.

We got Darnold as insurance, if Trey isn't ready to go. Plus, a draft pick in the later rounds to back, Darnold up.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Per Matt Maiocco

A source confirmed NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport's report that, yes, unspecified teams have called about Lance's availability and, no, the 49ers are not seeking to trade him.

Bump

All this is saying is teams are calling SF. SF isn't the ones doing the calling. We already knew that

Ive said it before, they aren't eager to get rid of him but they would because they aren't convinced he is the guy, their confidence in him is fractured, in my opinion.

It would also be dumb to say you are trying to trade him. Make teams who want him offer more. It's a great strategy.

worst case scenario, we hold onto him and he hopefully shows off his development and we strengthen the qb room. Best case, we get a really nice haul for him. It's a win/win.

Yup at the owner meetings they were laughing telling jokes when asked about trading Trey. Now the offers are coming in and they don't wanna trade him lol. Well played, keep driving up that price boys

If Trey really isn't at phase 1 - which I honestly know, it makes me wonder if they talked to him about possibly moving him. Seems uncharacteristic of him to miss something like this when he's fighting for his job. It's not a huge deal but with how transparent the team is - wouldn't surprise me to find out he knows he may be traded.

Originally posted by mayo49:
Fields looks, like he would have been the better pick.

There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

Originally posted by pdc20:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Fields looks, like he would have been the better pick.

Fields? Great runner and playmaker, big arm but he´s the type of QB Shanahan hates.
He takes too many unecessary sacks because he ´s too slow to take a decision in the pocket.
It´s like watching a rich version of CJ Beathard in the pocket.
His ceiling is really high and maybe that with time and a better supporting cast he will be awesome.
But there´s a reason Shanahan wasn´t interested in him.

Better passer than, Trey. Plus, guy can ball out as a runner.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Fields looks, like he would have been the better pick.

There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

That's the point. Can't wait forever for the guy to develop. Plus, that ship has sailed. Dirty is the starter.

Originally posted by krizay:
IMO the only question mark surrounding Brock is the longevity of that elbow.

If Brock misses games and DTR gets to play and has the offense running on all cylinders and he out plays Brock then sure he could unseat him.

I think they already know what they have in Lance or at least know what they don't have in him. If they know, and it seems they do, that Brock is the guy. There is zero reason to keep Trey. Especially if they feel some type of way about DTR. In DTR they'd still be able to develop a guy in the same skillset without the pressures of having to start him or answer questions about starting him. Plus he's cheaper and you'd have him longer.

Question to you logically....

How can the 49ers know what they have in Lance after 4 starts given the scenario around the ones this year and the fact they expected him to sit all year last season.

Like what has Lance done to show them he's a lost cause? I can understand simply thinking they have their guy with Brock so if that's the case it makes sense to get all you can for Trey and get some cheaper/more mature backup to Brock.

BUT then you add in all the extra stuff, the injuries at the position last year. Brock being hurt, Darnold having 0 experience on our roster, rookies being unknowns.

Like how bad was their evaluation of Trey that they're giving up on him that quickly??? We're not talking 2 1st round picks trade situation here.

Originally posted by Chance:
There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

If they trade him that just says they don't think he'll ever be worth what they gave up to acquire him and are trying to salvage whatever they can get back before the rest of the league figures out that he can't play.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Fields looks, like he would have been the better pick.

There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

That's the point. Can't wait forever for the guy to develop.

So sell him for pennies? I happen to think it's smart to hedge your bets with QB talent. Trey has so much talent and hasn't had an opportunity to showcase himself. Let's see what we have in case Brock's arm has a setback.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Fields looks, like he would have been the better pick.

There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

That's the point. Can't wait forever for the guy to develop.

So sell him for pennies? I happen to think it's smart to hedge your bets with QB talent. Trey has so much talent and hasn't had an opportunity to showcase himself. Let's see what we have in case Brock's arm has a setback.

Not, sell him for pennies. Maybe, won't get what we gave up to get him. But, maybe get, as high as a 2nd and 3rd and an additional picks.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Chance:
There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

If they trade him that just says they don't think he'll ever be worth what they gave up to acquire him and are trying to salvage whatever they can get back before the rest of the league figures out that he can't play.

Sure, that could be the case, but a guy like Trey needs patience. I doubt they even know what he is until he can play in more games. You invest in the position to coach these guys up and grow them into their potential. I just don't see the need to trade him at this point.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Chance:
There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

If they trade him that just says they don't think he'll ever be worth what they gave up to acquire him and are trying to salvage whatever they can get back before the rest of the league figures out that he can't play.

This. They have had him in the bldg for 2 years. Trust me if you hire someone, you know more after employing them for 2 years than you knew during the interview process.

If they are serious about moving TL, that would communicate to me that he simply doesn't have what it takes to play in this league. Otherwise, they wouldn't do it.

I don't think we are at this point, we will keep TL is my bet. After all when he played, he didn't look great, but he didn't look totally lost either imo.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Fields looks, like he would have been the better pick.

There's nothing to even compare. Trey hadn't had a chance yet. Fickle ass fans.

That's the point. Can't wait forever for the guy to develop.

So sell him for pennies? I happen to think it's smart to hedge your bets with QB talent. Trey has so much talent and hasn't had an opportunity to showcase himself. Let's see what we have in case Brock's arm has a setback.

Not, sell him for pennies. Maybe, won't get what we gave up to get him. But, maybe as high as a 2nd or 3rd and an additional picks.

That would be pennies on the dollar.