Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Chance:
Sure, that could be the case, but a guy like Trey needs patience. I doubt they even know what he is until he can play in more games. You invest in the position to coach these guys up and grow them into their potential. I just don't see the need to trade him at this point.

They've had him in the building for a couple years now, they've watched him in training camp and practice, I imagine they have a good idea of what is capable of at this point. If they trade him away, that would speak volumes about what they feel his future outlook in the NFL is like.

There's no indication they are shopping him. Teams calling doesn't tell me that they have seen enough and are ready to move on. Frankly, Brock's historically good start means that they could like Trey and trade him anyway, should a team given them a big enough haul.

I don't see that happening, haul is not a word I would use here

Then click. Roll with the dudes we have. Trey Lance will be a baller.

Originally posted by ImRicky:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by ImRicky:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by ImRicky:

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Lynch whenever he hears a question about Trey Lance

JL is fine, he builds most of the rest of the squad, which is loaded beyond belief, QB is up to Shanny

Best GM, since the 80's.

yessir

Yeah he has for the most part but let's not act like he hasn't made some questionable picks. They all do over time. Nobody has a crystal ball. He had a plethora of cap and draft capital to rebuild when he took over for Trent Baalke and traded up for Reuben Foster then traded Buckner and drafted, forgot his name, to replace him in the middle. It's a little bit of luck half the time

He's made some great moves the last few years. He's had the midas touch, recently.

Totally agreed. I mean he can still salvage the Trey Lance debacle somewhat but not having those first round picks could hurt a little down the road. I'm personally happy that Micah Parsons and Penei Sewell are not 49ers. You guys are good enough as is lol

The drafting of Trey, ended up evening out, when we drafted Dirty in the 7th. Just don't just give Trey away. Get something decent for him, we'll never make up for what we gave up for him. Just bite the bullet and getting some good comp and find a good home for Trey.

I'm not convinced that any team is willing to give up what it would cost for us to move him.

At least until after the draft when maybe a team gets desperate, but even then there would be negligible benefit to us as we've already got a large haul of 2024 picks.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
I'm not convinced that any team is willing to give up what it would cost for us to move him.

At least until after the draft when maybe a team gets desperate, but even then there would be negligible benefit to us as we've already got a large haul of 2024 picks.

Just don't give him away, don't act desperate because that's when teams take advantage of you. Take as long as it takes and get a good deal.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
I'm not convinced that any team is willing to give up what it would cost for us to move him.

At least until after the draft when maybe a team gets desperate, but even then there would be negligible benefit to us as we've already got a large haul of 2024 picks.

Just don't give him away, because your desperate. Take as long as it takes and get a good deal.

I'd be very surprised if we traded him out of desperation. Regardless of where in the pecking order he is, there's more benefits to keeping him than trading him if the compensation isn't there.

Yeah, I know Kyle and John know better.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
I'm not convinced that any team is willing to give up what it would cost for us to move him.

At least until after the draft when maybe a team gets desperate, but even then there would be negligible benefit to us as we've already got a large haul of 2024 picks.

Well I think one thing we can count on is that the 49ers are not going to settle for less than whatever value they assign him. I also think if this drags out past the draft and into the various preseason activities Trey Lance's trade value takes a hit naturally. If you're trading for Trey Lance based on his potential and a willingness to attempt to play and develop him, you want to get him ASAP. It would not be completely dissimilar to Jimmy G's situation last season. The market shrinks the closer you get to the season.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
I'm not convinced that any team is willing to give up what it would cost for us to move him.

At least until after the draft when maybe a team gets desperate, but even then there would be negligible benefit to us as we've already got a large haul of 2024 picks.

Just don't give him away, because your desperate. Take as long as it takes and get a good deal.

I'd be very surprised if we traded him out of desperation. Regardless of where in the pecking order he is, there's more benefits to keeping him than trading him if the compensation isn't there.

This is playing out like 2022 all over again

I think it's becoming pretty clear now that they no longer think very highly of Trey's abilities. I have said this before but I think they were disappointed with what they got after he was drafted. During his first year, he looked terrible and like a complete project. They expected him to come into his second year improved but I think he might have even looked worse based on reports. People keep trying to say we do not know because he hasn't played but they have seen him in practice for over a year and a half. They are not going to keep paying a guy a bunch of money yearly who looks just awful, regardless of what they gave up to acquire him. I would probably keep him for another year and see if he shows improvement from the bench. But would not be surprised if they just ripped the bandaid off.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
This is playing out like 2022 all over again

It really is, except for differences in how our own team views the two guys (Jimmy G, and Trey). I think the same reason the team was willing to keep Jimmy G is the same reason they'd be willing to trade Trey Lance.

Regardless, I wouldn't put it past our guys to misread the market.

Originally posted by NDSU:
If I am Trey Lance and get the impression that another QB is going to be the #1 guy, then the 49ers start taking calls about trading then I am going to call it a day and request to be traded. Its just human nature not to stick around where you are not wanted.

If we keep him and he does start and chokes, then he will have zero trade value and will be a NFL bust who will probably be done in the NFL.
Take what you can get and move forward.

I feel Purdy did enough to be considered QB #1…
However, Purdy isn't ready right now. Hopefully he is by mid-end July.

I don't think Trey Lance gets traded, even if he wants to get traded. If he's not QB #1 this year, he should just keep busting his ass and keep getting better because I can almost guarantee you that that odds are, unfortunately, we will have a QB injury this year.

We are not getting back a 1st round for him, after giving up three and change for him, & we don't get any significant cap relief by trading him, and we are going to need all three QB's (possibly four) on the roster.

Darnold's a joke but we all know Kyle and his draft crushes & I don't think I'm going out on a limb stating Kyle knows more then anyone on this forum and most would agree with me except maybe 9moon.

I'm pretty confident Trey can do everything that Darnold can do, so it makes zero sense to broom Trey.

I like Trey, but I didn't want a project QB for this team and was surprised they gave three 1st plus for a project. Should have chased Brady until a deal was done, but deal is long over.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
I think it's becoming pretty clear now that they no longer think very highly of Trey's abilities. I have said this before but I think they were disappointed with what they got after he was drafted. During his first year, he looked terrible and like a complete project. They expected him to come into his second year improved but I think he might have even looked worse based on reports. People keep trying to say we do not know because he hasn't played but they have seen him in practice for over a year and a half. They are not going to keep paying a guy a bunch of money yearly who looks just awful, regardless of what they gave up to acquire him. I would probably keep him for another year and see if he shows improvement from the bench. But would not be surprised if they just ripped the bandaid off.

Exactly, it isn't just his lack of play, he is going into year thrrr and still a complete project. There isn't one piece of playing QB that any of us can say he's really good at. That's extremely concerning.

it's also very telling of how he's looked around the coaches for two years that they aren't in a rush to get him on the field.

i genuinely don't know why some think he's going to magically become amazing at playing qb because of physical tools? He couldn't even muster of his "amazing" physical talents to beat the lowly bears because of some rain. Of course the rain didn't stop fields, he managed to put up more than 10 on the best defense in the nfl.

he may be unknown but what is known is that he is a complete project after two years.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Bloodless:
I think it's becoming pretty clear now that they no longer think very highly of Trey's abilities. I have said this before but I think they were disappointed with what they got after he was drafted. During his first year, he looked terrible and like a complete project. They expected him to come into his second year improved but I think he might have even looked worse based on reports. People keep trying to say we do not know because he hasn't played but they have seen him in practice for over a year and a half. They are not going to keep paying a guy a bunch of money yearly who looks just awful, regardless of what they gave up to acquire him. I would probably keep him for another year and see if he shows improvement from the bench. But would not be surprised if they just ripped the bandaid off.

Exactly, it isn't just his lack of play, he is going into year thrrr and still a complete project. There isn't one piece of playing QB that any of us can say he's really good at. That's extremely concerning.

it's also very telling of how he's looked around the coaches for two years that they aren't in a rush to get him on the field.

i genuinely don't know why some think he's going to magically become amazing at playing qb because of physical tools? He couldn't even muster of his "amazing" physical talents to beat the lowly bears because of some rain. Of course the rain didn't stop fields, he managed to put up more than 10 on the best defense in the nfl.

he may be unknown but what is known is that he is a complete project after two years.

They just have been waiting so long, be it the injuries, slowing his development or Brock getting the call and them basically coming to the realization that it's just not in the cards for him with him not going to have much opportunity, to get be in the hunt for playing time.

Originally posted by Bloodless:
I think it's becoming pretty clear now that they no longer think very highly of Trey's abilities. I have said this before but I think they were disappointed with what they got after he was drafted. During his first year, he looked terrible and like a complete project. They expected him to come into his second year improved but I think he might have even looked worse based on reports. People keep trying to say we do not know because he hasn't played but they have seen him in practice for over a year and a half. They are not going to keep paying a guy a bunch of money yearly who looks just awful, regardless of what they gave up to acquire him. I would probably keep him for another year and see if he shows improvement from the bench. But would not be surprised if they just ripped the bandaid off.

Agreed. One thing that I think has happened here is that fans' have latched on to publicly made comments about how they planned to sit Trey Lance a year behind Jimmy G, and it's leading to a misreading of the current situation.

I don't think that was their ideal situation and there are public comments and reports that support that idea. It's likely the 'disappointment' began much earlier than people would guess.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:
I'm not convinced that any team is willing to give up what it would cost for us to move him.

At least until after the draft when maybe a team gets desperate, but even then there would be negligible benefit to us as we've already got a large haul of 2024 picks.

Well I think one thing we can count on is that the 49ers are not going to settle for less than whatever value they assign him. I also think if this drags out past the draft and into the various preseason activities Trey Lance's trade value takes a hit naturally. If you're trading for Trey Lance based on his potential and a willingness to attempt to play and develop him, you want to get him ASAP. It would not be completely dissimilar to Jimmy G's situation last season. The market shrinks the closer you get to the season.

Agree. I think all those factors make a Trey trade less likely if we're not willing to budge (and why would we?) on our asking price.

It's going to take a desperate team to make a move.

Financially we'd take a small hit this year pre June. Post June doesn't really make a whole lot of difference financially unless we desperately need cap for this season so I don't think financials become a large factor.