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Apr 19, 2023 at 6:29 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's just the way things have played out. They didn't think they had a real shot with Jimmy. I think Kyle and whole team thinks they'd be SB champs with a healthy Brock. That's a lot for Trey to overcome being so green with little time left on his contract

We needed alot of breaks to just beat the Cowboys. We scored 19 points. We got a couple of favorable calls to score our lone TD. Diggs missed a gimme INT. Pollard got hurt. And Dak became Dak. And I am not convinced we beat the Eagles if Purdy didn't get hurt.
Just pure old dumb luck right?

Some of it yup…




Lol and?

im not sure what you're going for? Those are obviously the things he needs to work on, and he has been, as much as you can.

id rather those kind of plays instead of horrific misses by Lance where no one can pick it because it's so uncatchable. You and your boy, Mr. 50%.

insanity
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:29 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's just the way things have played out. They didn't think they had a real shot with Jimmy. I think Kyle and whole team thinks they'd be SB champs with a healthy Brock. That's a lot for Trey to overcome being so green with little time left on his contract

We needed alot of breaks to just beat the Cowboys. We scored 19 points. We got a couple of favorable calls to score our lone TD. Diggs missed a gimme INT. Pollard got hurt. And Dak became Dak. And I am not convinced we beat the Eagles if Purdy didn't get hurt.
Just pure old dumb luck right?

Some of it yup…





Originally posted by NYniner85:
Some of it yup…



Lol at the fact that you felt the need post all those clips did you have em saved or did you have to look for em?
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:32 PM
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Idk why some people think it's an embarrassment or shame that some don't think he's the answer? That's so weird to me.

are we not allowed to have individual perspectives or opinions? Or should we just blindly follow and support what the team does? Sounds like communism. Lol

nah that sounds more like MAGA
Them damn MAGA Republicans lmao
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:35 PM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol and?

im not sure what you're going for? Those are obviously the things he needs to work on, and he has been, as much as you can.

id rather those kind of plays instead of horrific misses by Lance where no one can pick it because it's so uncatchable. You and your boy, Mr. 50%.

insanity

One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol
[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Apr 19, 2023 at 6:35 PM ]
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:37 PM
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol and?

im not sure what you're going for? Those are obviously the things he needs to work on, and he has been, as much as you can.

id rather those kind of plays instead of horrific misses by Lance where no one can pick it because it's so uncatchable. You and your boy, Mr. 50%.

insanity

One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol

idk why a rookie playing amazing overall and those kind of mistakes aren't good enough for him and have an imaginary ceiling, but 2 year Trey is horrible and he gets every excuse in the world.

He would take Anthony Richardson over everyone in history, because of his "upside" lol
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:44 PM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol and?

im not sure what you're going for? Those are obviously the things he needs to work on, and he has been, as much as you can.

id rather those kind of plays instead of horrific misses by Lance where no one can pick it because it's so uncatchable. You and your boy, Mr. 50%.

insanity

One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol

idk why a rookie playing amazing overall and those kind of mistakes aren't good enough for him and have an imaginary ceiling, but 2 year Trey is horrible and he gets every excuse in the world.

He would take Anthony Richardson over everyone in history, because of his "upside" lol

The only real mistake there is leaving the ball behind Aiyuk, but I also wish Aiyuk would be better on those kinds of passes. The others were an amazing play and a tipped pass
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:46 PM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol and?

im not sure what you're going for? Those are obviously the things he needs to work on, and he has been, as much as you can.

id rather those kind of plays instead of horrific misses by Lance where no one can pick it because it's so uncatchable. You and your boy, Mr. 50%.

insanity

One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol

idk why a rookie playing amazing overall and those kind of mistakes aren't good enough for him and have an imaginary ceiling, but 2 year Trey is horrible and he gets every excuse in the world.

He would take Anthony Richardson over everyone in history, because of his "upside" lol

Yet you slobber all over Darnold. A guy that's done this for 56 games lol. Faithful and Furlow here is your example.
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:51 PM
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol

That one he missed to Aiyuk he is never going to be able to make that pass. Doesn't have the arm strength. Unless Aiyuk is 20 feet open and can wait on it like the one he had vs the Bucs I believe. But those 30+ yard passes you need to hit on a line so the DB can't close on it and pick it off or knock it down he won't be able to make. He has physical limitations, It's why he was drafted in the 7th RD. So far he has overcome those limitations but it remains to be seen if defenses will adjust and it starts to become an issue. Or maybe he just hasn't faced many good defenses. He faced two, The Cowboys where he struggled and the Eagles where he got hurt early.

Seahawks 2
Commanders
Cardinals
Bucs(the defense was decimated with injuries)
Dolphins
Raiders

Those were the other defenses that Purdy beat during his streak. Ironically the only defense he really struggled against was the Cowboys who also happened to be the only good defense he faced for an entire game.
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:57 PM
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol

That one he missed to Aiyuk he is never going to be able to make that pass. Doesn't have the arm strength. Unless Aiyuk is 20 feet open and can wait on it like the one he had vs the Bucs I believe. But those 30+ yard passes you need to hit on a line so the DB can't close on it and pick it off or knock it down he won't be able to make. He has physical limitations, It's why he was drafted in the 7th RD. So far he has overcome those limitations but it remains to be seen if defenses will adjust and it starts to become an issue. Or maybe he just hasn't faced many good defenses. He faced two, The Cowboys where he struggled and the Eagles where he got hurt early.

Seahawks 2
Commanders
Cardinals
Bucs(the defense was decimated with injuries)
Dolphins
Raiders

Those were the other defenses that Purdy beat during his streak. Ironically the only defense he really struggled against was the Cowboys who also happened to be the only good defense he faced for an entire game.
The downplaying of how well Purdy performed is hysterical.
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:58 PM
Originally posted by tankle104:
idk why a rookie playing amazing overall and those kind of mistakes aren't good enough for him and have an imaginary ceiling, but 2 year Trey is horrible and he gets every excuse in the world.

He would take Anthony Richardson over everyone in history, because of his "upside" lol

How can people say Trey is horrible when he has only started 4 games and one of them was less than a quarter? This is the issue I have with his haters. And basically all of them were spread out, Other than the 1 quarter vs the Seahawks. Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields were horrible for an entire season and early parts of their 2nd season. Lawrence really didn't arrive until his 20th or so start in the league. Josh Allen it took like 30+ starts. But Trey is suppose to light it up immediately.
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:58 PM
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol

That one he missed to Aiyuk he is never going to be able to make that pass. Doesn't have the arm strength. Unless Aiyuk is 20 feet open and can wait on it like the one he had vs the Bucs I believe. But those 30 yard passes you need to hit on a line so the DB can't close on it and pick it off or knock it down he won't be able to make. He has physical limitations, It's why he was drafted in the 7th RD. So far he has overcome those limitations but it remains to be seen if defenses will adjust and it starts to become an issue. Or maybe he just hasn't faced many good defenses. He faced two, The Cowboys where he struggled and the Eagles where he got hurt early.

Seahawks 2
Commanders
Cardinals
Bucs(the defense was decimated with injuries)
Dolphins
Raiders

Those were the other defenses that Purdy beat during his streak. Ironically the only defense he really struggled against was the Cowboys who also happened to be the only good defense he faced for an entire game.



The pass was behind. He can make the pass he just needed to lead him more

If the cowbiys was considered struggling I'd say we have really f**king good QB
Apr 19, 2023 at 6:58 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Agreed. Lance I think will prove to be a lot better than people think. That said, sure, he'd have to do an awful lot to unseat Brock. But IMO we can get a lot more from him next off-season if he gets a real chance to play and win some games.

Darnold isn't a starter. Believe me, I've watched enough of him to know that it wasn't just his situation. He simply didn't take care of the ball. Shanahan hates when guys "do something stupid" (in his own words), and I think he'd be incredibly unhappy with Sam if he had to start too many games. Lance not only has better upside and mobility, he's smarter with the football, despite his inexperience.

For Sam.. Look at how many of these horrific throws were where he wasn't even under pressure.



I want no part of him taking snaps as a starter outside of being an emergency #3. Despite the contract he got, I don't even think he's necessarily a lock to make the roster.

Sam blows…how many chances does this dude get? Lance gets 30 passing attempts as the starter and we're suppose to just say that's enough lol? WTF. A player they had so much conviction in that they made the biggest trade in franchise history?

someone should get fired for that s**t. If you're incapable of developing a QB, then you should have never drafted one. Plain and simple. Brock doesn't cover anything…that was pure luck and no one has a damn clue if he's the real deal long-term. All we know as of right now is he dealing with a massive throwing arm injury and got hurt multiple times in 7 games. We have no idea when he will play or if he can maintain what he did previously.

if this does happen and they just give Brock the keys, then I will have lost some respect for kyle and co.

THANK YOU. I'm glad I'm not the only one that realized that Sammy D is simply NOT a solution. The lowlight I posted isn't just cherrypicking. This is legitimately how bad he looked just about every time I watched him play over the years. Anyone in their right might ACTUALLY want to have THAT as their #2?

We need REAL insurance, and Trey is that. IMO, Trey is already better than Darnold. I don't have a large sample size to go off of, but from what I've seen, his trajectory looks way better early on. Trey was serviceable even as a super raw, inexperienced rookie and got us a big win in his first year. 2nd season was lost, but I think he would've looked a lot better than Darnold last year if he'd had the chance.

Trey gives us a legitimate alternative if Brock gets hurt again or unexpectedly struggles. Darnold IMO is just an upgrade to the #3 spot.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Apr 19, 2023 at 6:59 PM ]
Apr 19, 2023 at 7:00 PM
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
One of those is an amazing off script play that vets don't make. I think the Diggs one was tipped lol. How desperate can you be when that's what you use lol

That one he missed to Aiyuk he is never going to be able to make that pass. Doesn't have the arm strength. Unless Aiyuk is 20 feet open and can wait on it like the one he had vs the Bucs I believe. But those 30+ yard passes you need to hit on a line so the DB can't close on it and pick it off or knock it down he won't be able to make. He has physical limitations, It's why he was drafted in the 7th RD. So far he has overcome those limitations but it remains to be seen if defenses will adjust and it starts to become an issue. Or maybe he just hasn't faced many good defenses. He faced two, The Cowboys where he struggled and the Eagles where he got hurt early.

Seahawks 2
Commanders
Cardinals
Bucs(the defense was decimated with injuries)
Dolphins
Raiders

Those were the other defenses that Purdy beat during his streak. Ironically the only defense he really struggled against was the Cowboys who also happened to be the only good defense he faced for an entire game.
The downplaying of how well Purdy performed is hysterical.

Probably one of the most pathetic things I've seen any fan base do
Apr 19, 2023 at 7:09 PM
Originally posted by Bloodless:
I think it's becoming pretty clear now that they no longer think very highly of Trey's abilities. I have said this before but I think they were disappointed with what they got after he was drafted. During his first year, he looked terrible and like a complete project. They expected him to come into his second year improved but I think he might have even looked worse based on reports. People keep trying to say we do not know because he hasn't played but they have seen him in practice for over a year and a half. They are not going to keep paying a guy a bunch of money yearly who looks just awful, regardless of what they gave up to acquire him. I would probably keep him for another year and see if he shows improvement from the bench. But would not be surprised if they just ripped the bandaid off.

Stop making s**t up. Trey has never looked awful. Training camp is a time guys work on things and him going up against a very good defense(defense that made many QBs look bad) isn't saying he sucked.

Mahomes was throwing a bunch of picks in practice vs a much weaker defense the year he won MVP the first time - arguably his best season.

He was far from perfect but if we're putting a fork in a kid with only 4 starts and 3 full games worth of them with 2 being as a rookie with a broken finger and the other being in a monsoon where he was our leading rusher and the team was making mistakes all over the place then someone is putting their job on the line imo.

At some point Kyle will not be able to recover from terrible decisions in the draft process.
Apr 19, 2023 at 7:14 PM
Originally posted by genus49:
Stop making s**t up. Trey has never looked awful. Training camp is a time guys work on things and him going up against a very good defense(defense that made many QBs look bad) isn't saying he sucked.

Mahomes was throwing a bunch of picks in practice vs a much weaker defense the year he won MVP the first time - arguably his best season.

He was far from perfect but if we're putting a fork in a kid with only 4 starts and 3 full games worth of them with 2 being as a rookie with a broken finger and the other being in a monsoon where he was our leading rusher and the team was making mistakes all over the place then someone is putting their job on the line imo.

At some point Kyle will not be able to recover from terrible decisions in the draft process.

Their draft results and overall roster rebuild has been a smashing success, in spite of many misses in the 1st round. There really isn't a supportable argument that we are coming up short in this department.
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