Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by TheGoldenNugget:
I don't buy the hype in Purdy because this is the exact same hype that was around JG when he won 5-0 until he tore his ACL and was NEVER the same. We have no assurances that Purdy will ever be the same since this is his throwing arm we are talking about. He already had a soso arm and now you're hedging your bet that his arm will still be able to throw with the same velocity.

What if the mediocre velocity isn't there and it's worse? Then what? We'd be more screwed without Trey then with Trey.

I don't tie Trey and Brock together like this. If Brock isn't the same player, whether that's because of injury or just general regression in his play, that doesn't mean we turn back to Trey. Brock failing doesn't make Trey's development path any more palatable for this team. Realistically, barring major setbacks in Brock's recovery or incredible jumps by Trey or Darnold in the offseason, we're going to find out what we have with Brock this coming season. If it doesn't work out we'll likely go into the QB market for another player altogether.

I think this would have already happened this offseason if Brock hadn't emerged last year... and to some degree it has at least as far as QB2 goes.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I don't tie Trey and Brock together like this. If Brock isn't the same player, whether that's because of injury or just general regression in his play, that doesn't mean we turn back to Trey. Brock failing doesn't make Trey's development path any more palatable for this team. Realistically, barring major setbacks in Brock's recovery or incredible jumps by Trey or Darnold in the offseason, we're going to find out what we have with Brock this coming season. If it doesn't work out we'll likely go into the QB market for another player altogether.

I think this would have already happened this offseason if Brock hadn't emerged last year... and to some degree it has at least as far as QB2 goes.

I'm saying that you keep him around because I much rather hedge my bet on Trey than Darnold. As 'good' as Darnold was the last some odd games after Baker was released, he still commited 5 fumbles...FIVE.

So you're willing to find out what you have in Purdy, yet you're judging Trey on 4 games? One with a broken finger and one in a monsoon game? I'm not sure I'm following your logic. You keep him to see what you have and if it's a bust it's a bust end of discussion. Why are we not taking the approach that we were doing with JG to see if there was another team has a QB that gets hurt and is interested in taking a jump at Trey then if Purdy is really good to go? I still stand by my takes on Purdy. He's more mobile JG with a noodle arm and it will be exposed down the road.

You can't just dip into the pool again next year because then you'd just look stupid as a mgmt team. Mark my words, as soon as they trade Trey, their clock will have sped up a ton or they're gonna get canned if Purdy isn't the same and quite frankly, I wouldn't blame Jed at that point.

At this point I'd be ok with a 3rd back. Theres no way we are getting a 2nd or 1st. Its obvious the coaches and FO has given up on him. Or they've seen enough to know that he wont be good. Gotta cut your losses even if it sucks

Originally posted by TheGoldenNugget:
I'm saying that you keep him around because I much rather hedge my bet on Trey than Darnold. As 'good' as Darnold was the last some odd games after Baker was released, he still commited 5 fumbles...FIVE.

So you're willing to find out what you have in Purdy, yet you're judging Trey on 4 games? One with a broken finger and one in a monsoon game? I'm not sure I'm following your logic. You keep him to see what you have and if it's a bust it's a bust end of discussion. Why are we not taking the approach that we were doing with JG to see if there was another team has a QB that gets hurt and is interested in taking a jump at Trey then if Purdy is really good to go? I still stand by my takes on Purdy. He's more mobile JG with a noodle arm and it will be exposed down the road.

You can't just dip into the pool again next year because then you'd just look stupid as a mgmt team. Mark my words, as soon as they trade Trey, their clock will have sped up a ton or they're gonna get canned if Purdy isn't the same and quite frankly, I wouldn't blame Jed at that point.

I personally wouldn't trade Trey unless they get a worthwhile offer in the trade market. I definitely wouldn't just give him away so to speak. That being said, I'm not playing Trey unless he demonstrates he's the best option on the roster in camp and preseason or is at least very close to it.

I can't agree with your last point on pretty much any level, most especially because the writing on the wall is that they've already moved on from any commitment to develop Trey. He's either going to take the job by force, be traded, or ride out at least one more season on the bench.

It's obvious the 49ers have their misgivings about Lance. Taking calls on his availability just adds to the scenario. Purdy is a big medical question mark. That leaves us with Darnold, is this team so loaded we could win with him? It seems a safer bet than counting on Purdy to heal quickly or Lance to pick up 3 or 4 years of experience before the regular season begins. Is it OK to dream of Brady?

Yeah, watch him turn out to be the next stud in two years. 49er fans so fickle and impatient.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Yeah, watch him turn out to be the next stud in two years. 49er fans so fickle and impatient.

That'd be fine, he has talent he just needs to play to show it off. Plus, we have our phenom in Dirty, who I like a little better for our system.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Yeah, watch him turn out to be the next stud in two years. 49er fans so fickle and impatient.

The only problem is that this team won't be here in two years.

Originally posted by RishikeshA:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Yeah, watch him turn out to be the next stud in two years. 49er fans so fickle and impatient.

The only problem is that this team won't be here in two years.

Why not?

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
It's obvious the 49ers have their misgivings about Lance. Taking calls on his availability just adds to the scenario. Purdy is a big medical question mark. That leaves us with Darnold, is this team so loaded we could win with him? It seems a safer bet than counting on Purdy to heal quickly or Lance to pick up 3 or 4 years of experience before the regular season begins. Is it OK to dream of Brady?

The question on Purdy is when he's going to be ready not if. The brace procedure will probably put him in a better position arm wise for his career and hopefully adds arm strength helping him with the one weakness people were criticizing him on.

Is anybody up? I can't goddamn, sleep.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by RishikeshA:
It's obvious the 49ers have their misgivings about Lance. Taking calls on his availability just adds to the scenario. Purdy is a big medical question mark. That leaves us with Darnold, is this team so loaded we could win with him? It seems a safer bet than counting on Purdy to heal quickly or Lance to pick up 3 or 4 years of experience before the regular season begins. Is it OK to dream of Brady?

The question on Purdy is when he's going to be ready not if. The brace procedure will probably put him in a better position arm wise for his career and hopefully adds arm strength helping him with the one weakness people were criticizing him on.

Purdy will be fine in September. No more than one or two games off at worst. Lance is history.

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Originally posted by tankle104:
Lol and?

im not sure what you're going for? Those are obviously the things he needs to work on, and he has been, as much as you can.

id rather those kind of plays instead of horrific misses by Lance where no one can pick it because it's so uncatchable. You and your boy, Mr. 50%.

insanity

Lol oh so now you want me to show you some horrific misses from Brock too? Because they're there.

That's the problem with some of you….you act like every single play from Brock was some electric oh my god play…like no other QB could make it. When in reality a lot of it was open reads and our all-star cast just doing all-star stuff….that's not meant to say Brock blows, having the proper reads is half the battle. Acting like he was making a bunch of pro-bowl plays wasn't really the case.

trading a guy on his rookie deal is stupid. keep him, if he doesnt pan out by then dont resign him. simple as that. we need a capable backup anyway in Kyles scheme since our QBs always die