Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by mayo49:
You can find a gem, especially in the 2nd or 3rd round. I agree, McGlinchey was above average, but he wasn't well rounded. He lacked in pass protection.

I just wouldn't trade Lance just to trade him. I wouldn't move him unless it's an offer I want, if not, I wouldn't move him. Especially without knowing how Purdys recovery will go.

once early June hits and if his recovering is still on track, then maybe - depending on the offer. Teams have injuries and could make someone desperate to trade for Lance and we get more. We also could get an injury and then we are stuck with no qb again, if Lance is traded.

if we trade Lance and then darnold goes down with an injury in camp and Brock isn't ready to start the season… that would be an awful situation to be in.

there are a lot of risks right now with where our qb room is. I wouldn't bet on Lance being traded during the draft. I think that's a long shot.

People wanna give Sam a chance after he's had 50+ starts and say he's capable but wanna give up on Trey and ship him off after 3 and a half starts this fanbase is ridiculous.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by mayo49:
You can find a gem, especially in the 2nd or 3rd round. I agree, McGlinchey was above average, but he wasn't well rounded. He lacked in pass protection.

I just wouldn't trade Lance just to trade him. I wouldn't move him unless it's an offer I want, if not, I wouldn't move him. Especially without knowing how Purdys recovery will go.

once early June hits and if his recovering is still on track, then maybe - depending on the offer. Teams have injuries and could make someone desperate to trade for Lance and we get more. We also could get an injury and then we are stuck with no qb again, if Lance is traded.

if we trade Lance and then darnold goes down with an injury in camp and Brock isn't ready to start the season… that would be an awful situation to be in.

there are a lot of risks right now with where our qb room is. I wouldn't bet on Lance being traded during the draft. I think that's a long shot.

I've always thought the best time to move Trey was in a year or two. That would allow enough time to allow that elbow to make a full recovery and see where Brock is at.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
People wanna give Sam a chance after he's had 50+ starts and say he's capable but wanna give up on Trey and ship him off after 3 and a half starts this fanbase is ridiculous.

He's a backup, what do you expect from him?

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Guys in the big leagues have made major recoveries with more serious elbow surgeries, I mean Tommy John surgery, which Brock didn't require. Modern surgery has come along ways from years past. There's no reason, Brock can't come back, 100% or close to it.

First off there's a MASSIVE difference between the two surgeries.

TJ surgery requires donor ligaments to reconstruct the UCL. It takes longer to heal BUT the outcome creates a tighter/stronger UCL.

what Brock had was an internal brace to take stress off the torn UCL and allow it to recover on it's own. There is no new ligaments. Just hope that it heals on its own over time. Now ligaments take longer to heal because of a lack of blood flow (compared to a tendon). Which means everyone's healing process is different. You can also re-tear it or completely f**k up all the rehab you've done if you're not 110%. SF would be insane to push his rehab or put him out there before then. I mean kyle doesn't seem to have the best interests for his QBs, so they very well could do that…which could lead to having TJ and no football for a long as time.

then what???

I think, Kyle has his best interest for his quarterbacks, but it depends who they are. Brock is a phenom, given he's back to his old self or close to it.

That's like saying Jimmy was a phenom. When has kyle had his best interest for his QBs? Never seen it at all….like I explained his recovery isn't a simple thing. His throwing elbow is f**king important and you could be jeopardizing his career by tossing him out there too soon. Selling another young QB just because you don't like him is childish and irresponsible.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I can't believe we are talking about Sam Darnold being capable. I mean, what are we doing here? With this roster?? Go out and get the best qb you can get (Cousins, Rodgers, Brady, Lamar, etc...) and just win this damn thing already.

Who did you expect to be available, Josh Allen? Lol.

Idk, maybe if you read what I said you'd have your answer and not ask a dumb question.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I just wouldn't trade Lance just to trade him. I wouldn't move him unless it's an offer I want, if not, I wouldn't move him. Especially without knowing how Purdys recovery will go.

once early June hits and if his recovering is still on track, then maybe - depending on the offer. Teams have injuries and could make someone desperate to trade for Lance and we get more. We also could get an injury and then we are stuck with no qb again, if Lance is traded.

if we trade Lance and then darnold goes down with an injury in camp and Brock isn't ready to start the season… that would be an awful situation to be in.

there are a lot of risks right now with where our qb room is. I wouldn't bet on Lance being traded during the draft. I think that's a long shot.

I'd move Sam in June before I'd move Lance, if a team needs a QB because of injury.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by mayo49:
You can find a gem, especially in the 2nd or 3rd round. I agree, McGlinchey was above average, but he wasn't well rounded. He lacked in pass protection.

I just wouldn't trade Lance just to trade him. I wouldn't move him unless it's an offer I want, if not, I wouldn't move him. Especially without knowing how Purdys recovery will go.

once early June hits and if his recovering is still on track, then maybe - depending on the offer. Teams have injuries and could make someone desperate to trade for Lance and we get more. We also could get an injury and then we are stuck with no qb again, if Lance is traded.

if we trade Lance and then darnold goes down with an injury in camp and Brock isn't ready to start the season… that would be an awful situation to be in.

there are a lot of risks right now with where our qb room is. I wouldn't bet on Lance being traded during the draft. I think that's a long shot.

I've always thought the best time to move Trey was in a year or two. That would allow enough time to allow that elbow to make a full recovery and see where Brock is at.

A year or two?! Lol do you mean month?! Hahaha

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by raywm3:
I can't believe we are talking about Sam Darnold being capable. I mean, what are we doing here? With this roster?? Go out and get the best qb you can get (Cousins, Rodgers, Brady, Lamar, etc...) and just win this damn thing already.

Who did you expect to be available, Josh Allen? Lol.

Idk, maybe if you read what I said you'd have your answer and not ask a dumb question.

Sorry, I amuse my self a little too much, sometimes in here.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I just wouldn't trade Lance just to trade him. I wouldn't move him unless it's an offer I want, if not, I wouldn't move him. Especially without knowing how Purdys recovery will go.

once early June hits and if his recovering is still on track, then maybe - depending on the offer. Teams have injuries and could make someone desperate to trade for Lance and we get more. We also could get an injury and then we are stuck with no qb again, if Lance is traded.

if we trade Lance and then darnold goes down with an injury in camp and Brock isn't ready to start the season… that would be an awful situation to be in.

there are a lot of risks right now with where our qb room is. I wouldn't bet on Lance being traded during the draft. I think that's a long shot.

I'd move Sam in June before I'd move Lance, if a team needs a QB because of injury.

I'd rather have Trey over Sam, too. But, how long can that last, before we have to eventually move him, given Brock is back to his old self, or close to it.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I just wouldn't trade Lance just to trade him. I wouldn't move him unless it's an offer I want, if not, I wouldn't move him. Especially without knowing how Purdys recovery will go.

once early June hits and if his recovering is still on track, then maybe - depending on the offer. Teams have injuries and could make someone desperate to trade for Lance and we get more. We also could get an injury and then we are stuck with no qb again, if Lance is traded.

if we trade Lance and then darnold goes down with an injury in camp and Brock isn't ready to start the season… that would be an awful situation to be in.

there are a lot of risks right now with where our qb room is. I wouldn't bet on Lance being traded during the draft. I think that's a long shot.

I'd move Sam in June before I'd move Lance, if a team needs a QB because of injury.

I think it depends on the team that's needs a qb. If I'm looking for a bridge guy until my starter is back, darnold would be a good option. Teams trying to find a potential FQB, They'll want Lance because he's unproven. I don't think anyone will trade for darnold hoping he becomes a FQB. Jets messed him up too much. lol

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
I would not trade even think about trading Lance at this point. He is cheap and still has lots of potential. End of the 2023 season would be a better time to evaluate the QB room in my opinion.

Agree. but if someone offers us a nice package, now, I'd not wait for next year.

The car has been driven off the lot. We are not getting a nice package unless Lance proves he is worth it.

He's got untapped, potential. He just needs to stay healthy and play.

Agreed.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
I would not trade even think about trading Lance at this point. He is cheap and still has lots of potential. End of the 2023 season would be a better time to evaluate the QB room in my opinion.

Agree. but if someone offers us a nice package, now, I'd not wait for next year.

The car has been driven off the lot. We are not getting a nice package unless Lance proves he is worth it.

He's got untapped, potential. He just needs to stay healthy and play.

Agreed.

Of, course.

Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd rather have Trey over Sam, too. But, how long can that last, before we have to eventually move him, given Brock is back to his old self, or close to it.

We don't have to move him…why do you keep saying that? He's on the team for at least 2 more seasons and one more if they use the 5th yr option. You do everything in your power between now and then to see if the guy you had so much conviction in can play.

Brock can get hurt the moment he steps on the field. He couldn't make it out of one start without breaking his ribs. He's not Big Ben or Josh allen who can absorb contact. Lance could very well start the whole damn season (so could Sam) we have no clue…there's no point in moving him. None…unless you get a can't pass on it offer, which we know isn't happening.

end of the day after two more years if he walks out in FA who cares. You at least got to make damn sure he wasn't the guy you thought he would be…which is vastly more important than some rookie on day 3 of the draft

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd rather have Trey over Sam, too. But, how long can that last, before we have to eventually move him, given Brock is back to his old self, or close to it.

We don't have to move him…why do you keep saying that? He's on the team for at least 2 more seasons and one more if they use the 5th yr option. You do everything in your power between now and then to see if the guy you had so much conviction in can play.

Brock can get hurt the moment he steps on the field. He couldn't make it out of one start without breaking his ribs. He's not Big Ben or Josh allen who can absorb contact. Lance could very well start the whole damn season (so could Sam) we have no clue…there's no point in moving him. None…unless you get a can't pass on it offer, which we know isn't happening.

end of the day after two more years if he walks out in FA who cares. You at least got to make damn sure he wasn't the guy you thought he would be…which is vastly more important than some rookie on day 3 of the draft

I'm not talking about moving him now. I've always thought the best time to move him was in a year or two. Keep him for insurance, incase Dirty isn't back to himself or regresses.