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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd rather have Trey over Sam, too. But, how long can that last, before we have to eventually move him, given Brock is back to his old self, or close to it.

We don't have to move him…why do you keep saying that? He's on the team for at least 2 more seasons and one more if they use the 5th yr option. You do everything in your power between now and then to see if the guy you had so much conviction in can play.

Brock can get hurt the moment he steps on the field. He couldn't make it out of one start without breaking his ribs. He's not Big Ben or Josh allen who can absorb contact. Lance could very well start the whole damn season (so could Sam) we have no clue…there's no point in moving him. None…unless you get a can't pass on it offer, which we know isn't happening.

end of the day after two more years if he walks out in FA who cares. You at least got to make damn sure he wasn't the guy you thought he would be…which is vastly more important than some rookie on day 3 of the draft

NY, you follow the Warriors? Big night tonight in the playoffs, against the Kings. Can't go down 0-3, or no repeat this year. Or, do you follow the Knicks.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 20, 2023 at 7:53 AM ]
If I'm looking at it purely through the lens of "what's best for Trey" - I'd want him to go to the Texans.

he would be in a familiar system, familiar coaches, and he can get the in game experience he needs without the expectation of winning. Not that he can't win games but he really needs to experience the ins and outs of a game more. The small nuances. If he can do that for a year or two there, then he can start to flourish.

That isn't a knock on him. He's just extremely inexperienced at playing football in comparison to most players even in college. There's a lot to playing qb and a good chunk of it, you have to go through in a live game to really figure out. He can make mistakes there and all that, without being crucified or jeopardizing a season.

i think that would be best for him. He's still really young, so a season or two there and he would still be young. It's why his third year option is so valuable right now. You let him work out the kinks for two years on a rookie contract and then he will be on a contract year where you can find out what he really is.
by then, hopefully the Texans have built around him.

That makes the most sense to me, if I'm solely looking at what's best for Trey.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd rather have Trey over Sam, too. But, how long can that last, before we have to eventually move him, given Brock is back to his old self, or close to it.

We don't have to move him…why do you keep saying that? He's on the team for at least 2 more seasons and one more if they use the 5th yr option. You do everything in your power between now and then to see if the guy you had so much conviction in can play.

Brock can get hurt the moment he steps on the field. He couldn't make it out of one start without breaking his ribs. He's not Big Ben or Josh allen who can absorb contact. Lance could very well start the whole damn season (so could Sam) we have no clue…there's no point in moving him. None…unless you get a can't pass on it offer, which we know isn't happening.

end of the day after two more years if he walks out in FA who cares. You at least got to make damn sure he wasn't the guy you thought he would be…which is vastly more important than some rookie on day 3 of the draft

I'm not talking about moving him now. I've always thought the best time to move him was in a year or two. Keep him for insurance, incase Dirty isn't back to himself or regresses.

What if Lance looks better but Purdy doesnt look as good?
I think it's time to re-coup what we can for him and roll with Purdy. We have Darnold as the backup.
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd rather have Trey over Sam, too. But, how long can that last, before we have to eventually move him, given Brock is back to his old self, or close to it.

We don't have to move him…why do you keep saying that? He's on the team for at least 2 more seasons and one more if they use the 5th yr option. You do everything in your power between now and then to see if the guy you had so much conviction in can play.

Brock can get hurt the moment he steps on the field. He couldn't make it out of one start without breaking his ribs. He's not Big Ben or Josh allen who can absorb contact. Lance could very well start the whole damn season (so could Sam) we have no clue…there's no point in moving him. None…unless you get a can't pass on it offer, which we know isn't happening.

end of the day after two more years if he walks out in FA who cares. You at least got to make damn sure he wasn't the guy you thought he would be…which is vastly more important than some rookie on day 3 of the draft

I'm not talking about moving him now. I've always thought the best time to move him was in a year or two. Keep him for insurance, incase Dirty isn't back to himself or regresses.

What if Lance looks better but Purdy doesnt look as good?

Elementary, Watson. We'll have a new starter in Trey. Duh.
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Originally posted by IrishCrnjo:
I think it's time to re-coup what we can for him and roll with Purdy. We have Darnold as the backup.

That's their plan. No, going back now, it's Purdy as the francise startr and Darnold as the backup, going foward, sink or swim.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 20, 2023 at 7:58 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm not talking about moving him now. I've always thought the best time to move him was in a year or two. Keep him for insurance, incase Dirty isn't back to himself or regresses.

You've been arguing with me all morning about moving him before the draft lol. Good lord Mayo
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'd rather have Trey over Sam, too. But, how long can that last, before we have to eventually move him, given Brock is back to his old self, or close to it.

We don't have to move him…why do you keep saying that? He's on the team for at least 2 more seasons and one more if they use the 5th yr option. You do everything in your power between now and then to see if the guy you had so much conviction in can play.

Brock can get hurt the moment he steps on the field. He couldn't make it out of one start without breaking his ribs. He's not Big Ben or Josh allen who can absorb contact. Lance could very well start the whole damn season (so could Sam) we have no clue…there's no point in moving him. None…unless you get a can't pass on it offer, which we know isn't happening.

end of the day after two more years if he walks out in FA who cares. You at least got to make damn sure he wasn't the guy you thought he would be…which is vastly more important than some rookie on day 3 of the draft

I'm not talking about moving him now. I've always thought the best time to move him was in a year or two. Keep him for insurance, incase Dirty isn't back to himself or regresses.

What if Lance looks better but Purdy doesnt look as good?

Elementary, Watson. We'll have a new starter in Trey. Duh.

lol, I am just saying we have no idea really, so why is everyone all over making a trade. I find this dismissal of Trey confusing. If Purdy never blew up Trey would be the guy with a veteran backup for sure. Purdy exceeding expectations and playing fantastic isn't a knock on Lance. We have a pretty good situation imo.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Get a RT and another edge rusher to team with Nick, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Who name someone?? Who's gonna be this stud RT or EDGE? We can draft all that at the end of the 3rd just as well. The player talent outside of like 10-12 guys is not great this year.

if people paid attention to this draft for the past couple months they'd know

Everyone loves the draft because every player taken is a likely stud(unless it's a player you don't like then they're insta busts)

We all know it's not a perfect science. We couldn't get Lance right after a huge move up and lots of time looking into him but we'll get a slam dunk guy in the 2nd/3rd round from a pick we get from him?

MAYBE.

But as little as Lance is proven in the NFL, anyone we draft will have even less NFL experience.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I'm not talking about moving him now. I've always thought the best time to move him was in a year or two. Keep him for insurance, incase Dirty isn't back to himself or regresses.

You've been arguing with me all morning about moving him before the draft lol. Good lord Mayo

Like you said, if we get a good deal this year for this draft, why not move him now. There's no guarantee, next years draft will be any better.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 20, 2023 at 8:01 AM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
NY, you follow the Warriors? Big night tonight in the playoffs, against the Kings. Can't go down 0-3, or no repeat this year. Or, do you follow the Knicks.

Kicks 💩 I do like the warriors and Celtics. Thought last yr was a cool playoffs and I didn't care who won.

I grew up a magic fan, which tells you how old I am (Penny/Shaq/Anderson/Grant/Scott) lol
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
NY, you follow the Warriors? Big night tonight in the playoffs, against the Kings. Can't go down 0-3, or no repeat this year. Or, do you follow the Knicks.

Kicks 💩 I do like the warriors and Celtics. Thought last yr was a cool playoffs and I didn't care who won.

I grew up a magic fan, which tells you how old I am (Penny/Shaq/Anderson/Grant/Scott) lol

Magic? There are actual Magic fans, lol. Too, bad you had Shaq, but couldn't win a Ship with him. And, it sounds like your about my age. Us, old geezers are still kicking. Our Niners, keep us young at heart. Glad your with us, NY - your a unique poster, don't change, I won't either.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 20, 2023 at 8:11 AM ]
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Get a RT and another edge rusher to team with Nick, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Who name someone?? Who's gonna be this stud RT or EDGE? We can draft all that at the end of the 3rd just as well. The player talent outside of like 10-12 guys is not great this year.

if people paid attention to this draft for the past couple months they'd know

Everyone loves the draft because every player taken is a likely stud(unless it's a player you don't like then they're insta busts)

We all know it's not a perfect science. We couldn't get Lance right after a huge move up and lots of time looking into him but we'll get a slam dunk guy in the 2nd/3rd round from a pick we get from him?

MAYBE.

But as little as Lance is proven in the NFL, anyone we draft will have even less NFL experience.

I disagree with this in that Lance got hurt. If he played all season and looked meh i would understand. He's played 5 games? I believe we need to see more to really make proper judgement.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Magic? There are actual Magic fans, lol. Too, bad you had Shaq, but couldn't win a Ship with him. And, it sounds like your about my age. Us, old geezers are still kicking. Our Niners, keep us young at heart. Glad your with us, NY - your a unique poster, don't change, I won't either.

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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Get a RT and another edge rusher to team with Nick, in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

Who name someone?? Who's gonna be this stud RT or EDGE? We can draft all that at the end of the 3rd just as well. The player talent outside of like 10-12 guys is not great this year.

if people paid attention to this draft for the past couple months they'd know

Everyone loves the draft because every player taken is a likely stud(unless it's a player you don't like then they're insta busts)

We all know it's not a perfect science. We couldn't get Lance right after a huge move up and lots of time looking into him but we'll get a slam dunk guy in the 2nd/3rd round from a pick we get from him?

MAYBE.

But as little as Lance is proven in the NFL, anyone we draft will have even less NFL experience.

I disagree with this in that Lance got hurt. If he played all season and looked meh i would understand. He's played 5 games? I believe we need to see more to really make proper judgement.

Like I've always said, they fell in love with Trey, because of his potential in this system. But, he won't get much opportunity anymore here, with Brock named the future, given he's back to 100% or close to it. He might get the starts early, if Dirty isn't ready to start the season. If Trey can get some reps this year, if would clear up some of the doubts people have of him if he balls.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Apr 20, 2023 at 8:21 AM ]
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