Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
I would have bet money on Tenn a week ago. I'm thinking it ends up being the Vikings. They'll dump Cook (probably to MIA) use part of that compensation for Trey.

Why would Miami take Cook? Dudes banged up and expensive. Just draft a RB.

https://phinphanatic.com/2023/04/17/miami-dolphins-favorites-rb-dalvin-cook-worth/

Who's Juan Vasquez?

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Agree to disagree. I don't see a ton of special talent. Yes there's depth at the positions we're looking at, doesn't mean they're long term starters.

if we had the 29th pick in the draft I don't know if we come away with a guaranteed starter. Also there's a difference between being a starter and actually being good

I do agree with you on the difference between starter and being good.

That said there is plenty of talent in this draft. Especially, if we were still at 29. Would we pick the right guy? That's a whole nother question

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by boast:
yeah it's now been confirmed he's in Santa Clara

In Santa Clara cleaning out his locker?

If they are happy with Brock it only makes sense to field offers before the draft.

A guy that won an MVP just a season ago is on the trading block.

Could be a total bluff....we don't know. But at the end of the day there's a price on everyone's head.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
I would have bet money on Tenn a week ago. I'm thinking it ends up being the Vikings. They'll dump Cook (probably to MIA) use part of that compensation for Trey.

Why would Miami take Cook? Dudes banged up and expensive. Just draft a RB.

https://phinphanatic.com/2023/04/17/miami-dolphins-favorites-rb-dalvin-cook-worth/

Who's Juan Vasquez?

Congressmen, I believe. I'll Google it, to confirm. Be back in a jiffy. Jed wears pink panies, according to Kyle and John on their twitter page.

Originally posted by bigpete50:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If they trade TL, the massive mistake would be drafting him in the first place.

If his future is Herbert 2.0, I am pretty sure the FO wouldn't trade him for a short stack of flapjacks and call it even. They aren't that stupid. Our FO is actually one of the best in the game. If they trade him, that essentially means to me he is a bust. That's the only reason they would trade him out, and I don't think they will.

I had the same Herbert comparison over on Twitter. Here is my point. Would Kyle be happy with Justin Herbert? Would he fit into Kyle's offense? I'm not convinced the answer is a resounding YES!

What I am convinced is Kyle thinks his system is more important than any individual QB. Any QB must fit Kyle's offense because Kyle will not change his system for any QB. That's how stubborn he is.

It's no secret what Kyle is seeking. He wants a QB that can make quick reads, get rid of the ball in an accurate manner. Accuracy is key! Said QB must be able to hit the shorter passes in stride which allows his YAC receivers to excel. He doesn't need a QB to make those big chunk plays.

I don't think a Herbert/Lance type is the ideal fit. Yes this begs the question….why did the Niners draft Trey in the first place? This is the question that now haunts the organization.

But they've learned their lesson. They lucked out that Purdy came in and seemed to be the ideal fit for Kyle's offense. My guess is they'll draft a similar QB (Haener?) i the draft. Kyle doesn't develop QBs. He wants plug and play results which is another reason the Trey experiment doesn't work.

Any way you slice it, Trey is on the outside looking in. Only way we keep Trey is as a stopgap until Purdy recovers. The writing is on the wall. Niners have given up the ghost on Trey and again, it's due to Trey being the wrong type for Kyle's offense.

"Kyle's system". I hate this term because it suggests he never changes it. He wanted a QB running element to his run game because he saw the way the league was shifting in terms of defense. What coach doesn't want the ability to hit chunk plays? Just because he had Mullens and Jimmy doesn't mean he doesn't want a QB that can threaten vertically.
"Kyle's system" is whatever he happens to be running. It's not something set in stone, and if we really watch what's going on, you can see it changing over the past couple seasons, primarily in the run game.
What coach doesn't want a QB that can throw accurately to the correct target? This isn't some criteria that Kyle wants, every coach wants that.

"Kyle runs an offense that wants to score touchdowns and not field goals"
"Kyle wants a QB that can throw accurately and make the correct reads"
"Kyle wants a QB that doesn't turn the ball over".
What coach doesn't want those things?

Originally posted by bigpete50:
I had the same Herbert comparison over on Twitter. Here is my point. Would Kyle be happy with Justin Herbert? Would he fit into Kyle's offense? I'm not convinced the answer is a resounding YES!

What I am convinced is Kyle thinks his system is more important than any individual QB. Any QB must fit Kyle's offense because Kyle will not change his system for any QB. That's how stubborn he is.

It's no secret what Kyle is seeking. He wants a QB that can make quick reads, get rid of the ball in an accurate manner. Accuracy is key! Said QB must be able to hit the shorter passes in stride which allows his YAC receivers to excel. He doesn't need a QB to make those big chunk plays.

I don't think a Herbert/Lance type is the ideal fit. Yes this begs the question….why did the Niners draft Trey in the first place? This is the question that now haunts the organization.

But they've learned their lesson. They lucked out that Purdy came in and seemed to be the ideal fit for Kyle's offense. My guess is they'll draft a similar QB (Haener?) i the draft. Kyle doesn't develop QBs. He wants plug and play results which is another reason the Trey experiment doesn't work.

Any way you slice it, Trey is on the outside looking in. Only way we keep Trey is as a stopgap until Purdy recovers. The writing is on the wall. Niners have given up the ghost on Trey and again, it's due to Trey being the wrong type for Kyle's offense.

If he truly thinks this then he's never winning a SB.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who's Juan Vasquez?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
I would have bet money on Tenn a week ago. I'm thinking it ends up being the Vikings. They'll dump Cook (probably to MIA) use part of that compensation for Trey.

Why would Miami take Cook? Dudes banged up and expensive. Just draft a RB.

https://phinphanatic.com/2023/04/17/miami-dolphins-favorites-rb-dalvin-cook-worth/

Who's Juan Vasquez?

ExperienceWriter - Miami DolphinsFanSidedNov 2021 - Present1 year 6 months

Miami, Florida, United States

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I still want to see the concept of 11v11, so this is a QB who is a real run threat, who can also put the ball all over the field, including downfield. Those guys don't grow on trees, which I suppose was the logic of the TL pick.. I want to see Fields run this offense.. I mean the 3 win Bears had no business leading the NFL in rush yds, they just didn't yet they did.. imagine that type of ability with a KS run game, CMC, and the NFL would blow up. I will start work on the time machine.. see what happens here

100% agree! On tape, in college, Trey looked like a gazelle who had a great arm. They gambled and moved up to get him salivating over his ability to scramble.

Once Trey came into camp, they discovered Trey isn't quite the runner they expected. While he is a decent runner, I think he's a bit clunky, runs a bit upright and doesn't have loose hips like a Kaepernick.

Lynch and Shanny look at each other and simultaneously think "good god, what have we done?"

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who's Juan Vasquez?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
I would have bet money on Tenn a week ago. I'm thinking it ends up being the Vikings. They'll dump Cook (probably to MIA) use part of that compensation for Trey.

Why would Miami take Cook? Dudes banged up and expensive. Just draft a RB.

https://phinphanatic.com/2023/04/17/miami-dolphins-favorites-rb-dalvin-cook-worth/

Who's Juan Vasquez?

ExperienceWriter - Miami DolphinsFanSidedNov 2021 - Present1 year 6 months

Miami, Florida, United States

Sorry, I thought Vasquez was a congressmen, I do believe he is a famous writer from Quam.

Originally posted by krizay:
I do agree with you on the difference between starter and being good.

That said there is plenty of talent in this draft. Especially, if we were still at 29. Would we pick the right guy? That's a whole nother question

Yeah I mean when I look at the bottom of first rd mocks, I'm not seeing uber talented prospects. Most of these dudes would be late 2nd rd guys most years…is what it is, not very draft is full of great talent. If there was ever a year to no have a top 64 pick, it was this one. I'll bet money SF knew that when the made the move for CMC.

best player in this draft is probably a RB

you should be as happy as a pig in s**t lol. You love having a billion picks, not moving up, and the depth on day 3 is good.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who's Juan Vasquez?

Originally posted by boast:
remember last year when the team was like "NO WAY ARE WE TRADING DEEBO!!! NOPE. NO!



well the team hasnt been saying that about Trey

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Per Matt Maiocco

A source confirmed NFL Media insider Ian Rapoport's report that, yes, unspecified teams have called about Lance's availability and, no, the 49ers are not seeking to trade him.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I mean when I look at the bottom of first rd mocks, I'm not seeing uber talented prospects. Most of these dudes would be late 2nd rd guys most years…is what it is, not very draft is full of great talent. If there was ever a year to no have a top 64 pick, it was this one. I'll bet money SF knew that when the made the move for CMC.

best player in this draft is probably a RB

you should be as happy as a pig in s**t lol. You love having a billion picks, not moving up, and the depth on day 3 is good.

I would be happy if they select my guys.

Dirty is going to rock the house this season, Zoners. I'm jacked.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Who's Juan Vasquez?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
I would have bet money on Tenn a week ago. I'm thinking it ends up being the Vikings. They'll dump Cook (probably to MIA) use part of that compensation for Trey.

Why would Miami take Cook? Dudes banged up and expensive. Just draft a RB.

https://phinphanatic.com/2023/04/17/miami-dolphins-favorites-rb-dalvin-cook-worth/

Who's Juan Vasquez?

ExperienceWriter - Miami DolphinsFanSidedNov 2021 - Present1 year 6 months

Miami, Florida, United States

So he's like one of those SI goof troop writers lol? Sorry my man I don't really care what he says. Not saying it can't or won't happen. I don't see why it would though.