Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-buccaneers-colts-among-teams-inquiring-about-49ers-trey-lance-trade

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

That we have two very young QB's coming off serious injuries and needed some sort of insurance. Pretty simple really.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:

When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

That we have two very young QB's coming off serious injuries and needed some sort of insurance. Pretty simple really.

Not that simple with the incentives in his contract and he's competing for the starting job, and many people and analysts have him ranked ahead of Trey

Originally posted by tankle104:
https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-buccaneers-colts-among-teams-inquiring-about-49ers-trey-lance-trade

Why the excitement over the mere thought of trading TL? Let's say hypothetically a team offered up a 1st round pick for him. There's no guarantee that pick will be any good, and we'd take a cap hit. So I'm struggling to see why anyone would want him traded, other than to just get him off the team.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet he's the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

That we have two very young QB's coming off serious injuries and needed some sort of insurance. Pretty simple really.

And yet they made it apparent they were open for buisness when it comes to Trey so not really all that simple.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

It tells me the team took a flyer on a low risk, high reward player at a position that we desperately needed to be deeper at last year. Seeing anything more is imaginative speculation.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
And yet they made it apparent they were open for buisness when it comes to Trey so not really all that simple.

When exactly did they make that apparent?

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why the excitement over the mere thought of trading TL? Let's say hypothetically a team offered up a 1st round pick for him. There's no guarantee that pick will be any good, and we'd take a cap hit. So I'm struggling to see why anyone would want him traded, other than to just get him off the team.

The idea would be that you give yourself a good chance to gain a quality asset that can help you both short and long term for an asset that isn't positioned to do either.

Nothing is guaranteed to be successful.

Obviously how 'excited' a person would be about a trade depends on what was coming back and how they personally view Trey Lance. For me, I would accept a 1st round pick offer and never look back. If it was a 3rd round pick I'd rather just hang onto him, even if in the end we don't get a return through his play.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Why the excitement over the mere thought of trading TL? Let's say hypothetically a team offered up a 1st round pick for him. There's no guarantee that pick will be any good, and we'd take a cap hit. So I'm struggling to see why anyone would want him traded, other than to just get him off the team.

The idea would be that you give yourself a good chance to gain a quality asset that can help you both short and long term for an asset that isn't positioned to do either.

Nothing is guaranteed to be successful.

Obviously how 'excited' a person would be about a trade depends on what was coming back and how they personally view Trey Lance. For me, I would accept a 1st round pick offer and never look back. If it was a 3rd round pick I'd rather just hang onto him, even if in the end we don't get a return through his play.

I try to look at what's best for the team overall, not just one player I dislike, and Trey is in a position right now to help the team, whereas an unknown draft pick at an unknown position who is more likely to be a bust based off the teams draft history, is not in any position to help the team. So it's a real good thing the team is not trading him, but y'all can keep wishing.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I try to look at what's best for the tam overall, and Trey is in a position right now to help the team, whereas an unknown draft pick at an unknown position who is more likely to be a bust based off the teams draft history is not in any position to help the team. So it's a real good thing the team is not trading him, but y'all can keep wishing.

Trey may not be in a position to help this team other than as a QB3. That remains to be seen. If we were to keep him through the draft and into camp and he's playing great, the situation gets reevaluated.

As far as your last comment, I don't see many people wishing to trade him for just anything. There's a hope he'd get a worthwhile return. I'm certain I made that point clear in my post in regards to my personal feelings.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I try to look at what's best for the tam overall, and Trey is in a position right now to help the team, whereas an unknown draft pick at an unknown position who is more likely to be a bust based off the teams draft history is not in any position to help the team. So it's a real good thing the team is not trading him, but y'all can keep wishing.

Trey may not be in a position to help this team other than as a QB3. That remains to be seen. If we were to keep him through the draft and into camp and he's playing great, the situation gets reevaluated.

As far as your last comment, I don't see many people wishing to trade him for just anything. There's a hope he'd get a worthwhile return. I'm certain I made that point clear in my post in regards to my personal feelings.

Do you think that spending massive draft capitol on players, giving them less than a handful of games to prove themselves, then trading them for substantially less on another unknown player is a good way to build a championship team? Do you think it's is sustainable? I don't.

Saying Trey is QB3 right now makes your bias much more noticeable, though. Other than a handful of people on here who truly dislike the kid, I have heard nothing from the team to suggest Trey will be doing anything other than starting the season as QB1. Where did you get that information?

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

It tells me the team took a flyer on a low risk, high reward player at a position that we desperately needed to be deeper at last year. Seeing anything more is imaginative speculation.

Was I imagining it when Kyle said Trash Darnold would be competing with Lance?

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Do you think that spending massive draft capitol on players, giving them less than a handful of games to prove themselves, then trading them for substantially less on another unknown player is a good way to build a championship team? Do you think it's is sustainable? I don't.

Saying Trey is QB3 right now makes your bias much more noticeable, though. Where did you get that information?

I said he may be QB3 and that it remained to be seen. He's clearly going to be in a competition with Darnold, and both of them would be positioned behind Purdy when he returns (pending neither Darnold or Lance set the world on fire in camp).

I'm not biased towards individual players. There's really no emotional attachment one way or the other for me. I can have opinions on players that turn out to be right or wrong, but it's not going to be based on feelings.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by ptw1:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet he's the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

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When we moved up, I was sure it was for Mac Jones. It just fit the WCO, where you don't need a huge arm, but quick headwork and great accuracy for RAC. The fans, and I believe Lynch, all screamed bloody murder for not shooting higher for "traits", Kyle was out on a limb by himself and quite vulnerable personnally if it didn't work, and he did see the advantage of athleticism in his quarterback, so he relented and surprised and delighted Lynch when he asked him if he was ready to draft Trey Lance. Kyle then said that he didn't think that Jones had the quickest mind, but in fact Lance did. OK, I don't know what he's seeing, but OK, if he does, I'm on board.

Now he's got two complete off seasons and regular seasons working with him. Remember, Kyle's the guy that would prefer to get rid of preseason games altogether because he can learn everything he needs to know in practice. The only things games help in is to see if they play the same way when hit and under game pressure. Kyle knows what he's got in Trey, and he will Always change his game plan to best use his qb, while not necessarily liking having to. He runs Trey between the tackles. He runs the read option. That's not what he wants to do. That tells you he does not trust him to run what he does want to run. When Trey does play, it's not awful, but it's not good either. It's raw.

What has he done this year? He brought in Sam Darnold, who won 4 of 6 games with a poor team, and Sam signed on the First Day of free agence. He could have surely gotten a starting gig. He didn't come here to be qb3. Why would he? He knows. Sam was a draft favorite of Kyle's, and like Trey, went 3rd overall. He's got 5 years experience. Yes, crap teams, crap coaches, and not great play. But, in this SB run opportunity, if Kyle needs someone to fill in for a couple of games, is he going to start the guy he Knows is So raw, or is he going to work with the experienced, talented guy, that just needs to learn to settle down and look for what Kyle will tell him to look for. It's option B folks.

Couple this with Everybody agreeing that Trey needs experience, Lots of it. We're just not going to waste this SB roster giving that to him. And value wise, if Trey can't start over Sam, and in my mind he won't, his trade value is zippo. After this year, it's worse, in that he's now qb3, doesn't play, has only 1 year left on his contract, and the new team can't even Think of exercising the 5th year option of $20m+ for someone that hasn't shown he's a starting player.

Oh, and now we're looking at quarterbacks in the draft. Let's see. Brock, Sam, Trey, and a 3rd round draft pick. Which one of these investments are you going to waste and make vulnerable on the PS? We better trade one of them.

1 of those games "he won", he almost had as many completions to the other team as he did to his team. and no, he surely could not have gotten a starting gig this off season. we can debate trey but there's no debate that darnold has been trash.

And yet Darnolds the guy they brought in day one of fa to compete with Trey,what does that tell you?

That we have two very young QB's coming off serious injuries and needed some sort of insurance. Pretty simple really.

And yet they made it apparent they were open for buisness when it comes to Trey so not really all that simple.

They've made it apparent they're always open for business. That's been consistent for 6 years now and they've said nothing that wavers from that this off season.