Originally posted by RonMexico:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:I'll tell you what I told Buddy Boi. Due to my general annoyance at this asinine argument that comes from people who turned off the TV when Lance came in, I went and tallied up every rush that has occurred since Lance joined the team. His rushing IS A THREAT, and it forces defenses to respect it, whether you believe it or not:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Well that's kind of my point. It didn't look effortless. It looked like he was doing a lot mechanically to control the pace of the ball. It was basically an all arm throw instead of a proper use of his body. I think that's one of the reasons we hear reports of arm fatigue. My point about the pressure was he can get away with making the throw like that because he has the space to do it... even though I don't think he'd be consistently accurate using that kind of motion even in space. The space just allows him to go through his normal motion, or in that case the slowed down version of it.
The top throw here in your most recent post is the best example you've used yet though. No complaints there.
The throw to Deebo was more of what we've already seen. When his feet are right he can fire a laser accurately.
I'm sorry but nothing about that throw looked like it required a lot of work from him to make. It in fact looked effortless & with touch.
You're contradicting yourself. So he can get away with that throw because there's space for him to what? Step into it? And then when there's pressure and he can't step into it, what do you expect him to use? His arm strength.
I've shown you a layered pass that was 20+ yards downfield made effortlessly. I've showed you a one step drop in breaking route. I've showed you an off balance pressure throw that had touch. I showed you a practice throw, throwing on the run side arm made between defenders. I've showed you a quick slant pass.
The problem is people have tried to overanalyze 100 passing attempts and find anything wrong. Ya'll have painted a picture of bad in your head regardless of not seeing him throw a ball since October or it actually not being that bad.
The problem with Trey wasn't ever things he just flat out couldn't do, it is just doing them with a greater degree of consistency. Improved mechanics should help that issue. The sailing passes should not be as frequent as they were. Now they just need to realize that he is not a running quarterback, he should almost never have running plays called for him, least of all QB power where he has to wade through the trenches.
Lol what? He's good at that. It was a freak accident. He did that throughout college and in the NFL, and it helped our run game tremendously. Go look at our run stats with him under center.
What I mean by that:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/162350-why-49ers-run-game-experienced-decline-2022/
If you can't see that trey is not a dynamic runner, I don't know what to tell you. He looked dynamic against future grocery baggers. He has done NOTHING in the NFL that would indicate he will be a successful runner, especially at this level. He neither has the speed, power, or elusiveness that would suggest otherwise. And we all know how many opportunities Shanahan tried to give him to show he can run.
Rushing game without Lance in the line up: 4.1 yards per carry
Rushing game with Lance in the line up: 5.3 yards per carry
As I told Buddy Boi, that's the difference between the second best rushing team in the league and the 25th best.
If YOU can't see that, I DO know what to tell you: you don't know football, or you haven't actually watched games in which Trey played (I find the latter more likely; I am thoroughly convinced you Jimmy stans just turned the tv off when Lance came in).
What does the teams average have to do with lances individual ability to run? Lance didn't contribute to those numbers
Sorry for requoting you but Charlie annoyed me further and made me actually go to the All 22 of the play he posted. This gif right here ought to tell you exactly why the run game is better with Lance. If you can't see it, there's no point in further discussion. Watch the two interior linebackers.