Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
You can show ONE OR TWO instances, but not DATA which supports it. You're going to sit here and pretend this isn't a thing that defenses worry about when playing the 49ers.
Are you really going to pretend with a straight face that this doesn't affect how teams play the 49ers? Especially in light of the FACT OF REALITY that the 49ers gain more yards per carry with Trey under center.
Was that 3rd and 13? Showing these clips with no context doesn't always tell the full story.
third and long, they don't play him the same because they don't think he will run that far to convert.
im not arguing that he doesn't add an element to the run game. Lol just saying that the run you posted doesn't mean much, nor explain why the defense played him like that.
update: funny thing is, I looked up the play and it was 3 & 13. Lmao he converted it though.
The context is that the team runs for 4.11 yards per carry when he's not under center and 5.4 when he is. It is utterly laughable to pretend he has no effect on the run game.
That make you feel better? Teams game plan for this when they play him.
It makes me feel better that I'm not watching highlights of someone running for a bunch of yards in prevent coverage. Getting a bunch of yards is easy when things are out of reach.
it's like when a qb throws for 2 touchdowns at the end of the game when it's way out of reach. Then you said "he threw touchdowns? Does it matter how he got them?" Well yes, it does. I want someone who performs when the game isn't gone. It's two different worlds and comparisons. Can someone throw touchdowns when the defense is still locked in and not playing prevent?
^this isn't directed at Trey. I was just curious if that was. 1st and 10 run or 3 & 13. Defenses cover them much different when it comes to qb spies. The good news is that it was 3 & 13 and Lance want for it. That's impressive
Stats are only relevant in comparison to the context. You can out 200 yards and only score 6 points - that's a problem. You can put up 45 yards and score 14. So when I see yard stats thrown around, they're worthless without context of the situation and the points.
idgaf how many yards the offense puts up with any qb unless we score. My hope is that Lance improves in the redzone. That's where he needs to make a big jump to compete for the job
the biggest issue with Lance as qb in his three starts is that we averaged 14 ppg. Some like to brag about the yards in the seattle game, fact is he only put 3 points with 140 yards or something. That's not good. That's a problem to me. On pace for 400 yards with 9-12 points? It's a joke to me. I want to see the man score when he's the starter
[ Edited by tankle104 on May 21, 2023 at 3:16 PM ]
. I haven't been following this topic closely though if I'm being honest
He's not worried about the threat of Jimmy running. Jimmy is going backwards for godsake. That isn't a zone-read type mesh point. Moreover, he quite obviously moved to the side to get around an oncoming block, to knife back in to try to make a play on McCaffrey.
