Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
I'll drop this here.

For comparison:

Per PFF, Mahomes had 70 attempts of 20+ yards on 748 total attempts last year (9.4%).

Brock Purdy had 27 attempts of 20+ yards on 233 total attempts last year (11.6%)

Both had 4 touchdowns on throws of 20+ yards in 2022. https://t.co/Vd7l6R8xDM

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 1, 2023

That's awesome! Hell yeah! I knew he was attacking more often than we've seen in a long long time, but it's cool to see the stats behind it.

he may be limited in arm strength but I mean come on, every quarterback can throw 40 to 50 yards down field and Brock certainly took way more chances than Jimmy Garoppolo ever did WITH SUCCESS

I don't consider his arm limited at all. I think it's more than enough. You have to remember that his coaches got his MPh up by five miles and he's going back to them in a few weeks.

you don't need to be able to throw it 70+ yards, it's cool and all but isn't important. Those are low percentage throws anyway. As long as you can hit those in the 30-45 yard range easily - that's more than enough.

i think having a cannon is way over blown. Lol it's just sexy. Tom Brady didn't have one and his arm actually got stronger with working at it, which is what Purdy has done

There is a difference between guys with huge arms who can do insane things while playing with sloppy mechanics and guys who can throw the ball well but need to have proper mechanics to do it.

However arm strength is definitely very important, it's just not everything. There are certain throws where a strong arm means the difference between a completion or incompletion or interception. Strong arm also doesn't always imply deep ball. Fitting a quick throw between defenders or locating the ball in a tough spot on the field. Those things Brady could do.

I actually think Manning is the better example. I think out of the two of them Brady had the stronger arm. But nobody ever called Manning a dink/dunk guy because he attacked teams with all his weapons.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Trey still needs to get the ball down some. His throwing motion is more compact though, and it looks like they are working on footwork. Let's hope it pays off.

From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

I don't understand why you wanna get your panties twisted into a knot over it. I like Trey, but I'm expecting him to show improvement. I'm not one of those partisans who has chosen a player and cannot stand them catching any criticism. From the videos ive seen of Trey throwing, he is still throwing it a bit high. I don't give a f**k which guy starts at qb, as long as he is the best at the job.

First of all my panties are just fine. Second I'm actually curious what videos you're going off of, considering we've only had media access to two practices and even less video of the actual team drills.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
but i heard the spray charts were identical !

Kyle doesn't want to attack down the field.

This is sarcasm, right? Because it's wrong.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
but i heard the spray charts were identical !

Kyle doesn't want to attack down the field.

This is sarcasm, right? Because it's wrong.

yes.. just repeating some Lance fans

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
but i heard the spray charts were identical !

Kyle doesn't want to attack down the field.

This is sarcasm, right? Because it's wrong.

yes.. just repeating some Lance fans

Lance was my least favorite in Nsync.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Trey still needs to get the ball down some. His throwing motion is more compact though, and it looks like they are working on footwork. Let's hope it pays off.

From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

I don't understand why you wanna get your panties twisted into a knot over it. I like Trey, but I'm expecting him to show improvement. I'm not one of those partisans who has chosen a player and cannot stand them catching any criticism. From the videos ive seen of Trey throwing, he is still throwing it a bit high. I don't give a f**k which guy starts at qb, as long as he is the best at the job.

First of all my panties are just fine. Second I'm actually curious what videos you're going off of, considering we've only had media access to two practices and even less video of the actual team drills.

There are several videos of him throwing, it doesn't take more than 15-20 throws to see that he is still throwing high. Sorry that that bothers you so much that you decided to get snarky about someone having an opinion. You guys who get super defensive about the least little criticism are strange. You act like any criticism is a personal attack on his character, and you're his momma rushing to defend him. Why not wait until they actually earn their place before you start going to the mat every time someone mentions that they aren't perfect, because nobody is perfect, and it would be totally unrealistic to expect it.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Trey still needs to get the ball down some. His throwing motion is more compact though, and it looks like they are working on footwork. Let's hope it pays off.

From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

I don't understand why you wanna get your panties twisted into a knot over it. I like Trey, but I'm expecting him to show improvement. I'm not one of those partisans who has chosen a player and cannot stand them catching any criticism. From the videos ive seen of Trey throwing, he is still throwing it a bit high. I don't give a f**k which guy starts at qb, as long as he is the best at the job.

First of all my panties are just fine. Second I'm actually curious what videos you're going off of, considering we've only had media access to two practices and even less video of the actual team drills.

There are several videos of him throwing, it doesn't take more than 15-20 throws to see that he is still throwing high. Sorry that that bothers you so much that you decided to get snarky about someone having an opinion. You guys who get super defensive about the least little criticism are strange. You act like any criticism is a personal attack on his character, and you're his momma rushing to defend him. Why not wait until they actually earn their place before you start going to the mat every time someone mentions that they aren't perfect, because nobody is perfect, and it would be totally unrealistic to expect it.

yup lots of effort on here to protect and coddle TL.... not sure why, TL is a well paid professional athlete not above public criticism, let his play be his own defense.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
This is sarcasm, right? Because it's wrong.

Lil bit.

If we had a healthy Purdy in 2021 there is no.doubt the 9ers win the SB with just the opportunities that were available down the field in that nfc title game.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
but i heard the spray charts were identical !

Kyle doesn't want to attack down the field.

LOL. What happened to, "I don't need Kurt Warner to think for me?"

Here's part II. Great stuff.

Originally posted by genus49:
From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

One overthrow lol

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Trey still needs to get the ball down some. His throwing motion is more compact though, and it looks like they are working on footwork. Let's hope it pays off.

From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

I don't understand why you wanna get your panties twisted into a knot over it. I like Trey, but I'm expecting him to show improvement. I'm not one of those partisans who has chosen a player and cannot stand them catching any criticism. From the videos ive seen of Trey throwing, he is still throwing it a bit high. I don't give a f**k which guy starts at qb, as long as he is the best at the job.

First of all my panties are just fine. Second I'm actually curious what videos you're going off of, considering we've only had media access to two practices and even less video of the actual team drills.

There are several videos of him throwing, it doesn't take more than 15-20 throws to see that he is still throwing high. Sorry that that bothers you so much that you decided to get snarky about someone having an opinion. You guys who get super defensive about the least little criticism are strange. You act like any criticism is a personal attack on his character, and you're his momma rushing to defend him. Why not wait until they actually earn their place before you start going to the mat every time someone mentions that they aren't perfect, because nobody is perfect, and it would be totally unrealistic to expect it.

There are several videos of him throwing and I've seen him hit CMC high once and a ball sail over a ball boy or whoever they had out there catching. All the other throws I didn't see him having an issue throwing high.

That's why I asked. You talk about Lance getting coddled, how about just speaking honestly about someone? I don't claim to have seen every throw video of his from OTAs which is why I asked you what you've seen and snarky and sarcastic is how I post. Sorry that hurt your feelings.

There is plenty of posts in this thread painting a much worse picture of Lance that is actually out there so yeah, your take smelled of more of the same but if you have the videos you're referring to then please share them so I can apologize.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

One overthrow lol

Yeah...see my post above.

That's why I asked the man what he was going off of(granted in my own aholish way)

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Trey still needs to get the ball down some. His throwing motion is more compact though, and it looks like they are working on footwork. Let's hope it pays off.

From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

I don't understand why you wanna get your panties twisted into a knot over it. I like Trey, but I'm expecting him to show improvement. I'm not one of those partisans who has chosen a player and cannot stand them catching any criticism. From the videos ive seen of Trey throwing, he is still throwing it a bit high. I don't give a f**k which guy starts at qb, as long as he is the best at the job.

First of all my panties are just fine. Second I'm actually curious what videos you're going off of, considering we've only had media access to two practices and even less video of the actual team drills.

There are several videos of him throwing, it doesn't take more than 15-20 throws to see that he is still throwing high. Sorry that that bothers you so much that you decided to get snarky about someone having an opinion. You guys who get super defensive about the least little criticism are strange. You act like any criticism is a personal attack on his character, and you're his momma rushing to defend him. Why not wait until they actually earn their place before you start going to the mat every time someone mentions that they aren't perfect, because nobody is perfect, and it would be totally unrealistic to expect it.

There are several videos of him throwing and I've seen him hit CMC high once and a ball sail over a ball boy or whoever they had out there catching. All the other throws I didn't see him having an issue throwing high.

That's why I asked. You talk about Lance getting coddled, how about just speaking honestly about someone? I don't claim to have seen every throw video of his from OTAs which is why I asked you what you've seen and snarky and sarcastic is how I post. Sorry that hurt your feelings.

There is plenty of posts in this thread painting a much worse picture of Lance that is actually out there so yeah, your take smelled of more of the same but if you have the videos you're referring to then please share them so I can apologize.

I could be reading peoples messages wrong and I really don't know if treys been "throwing high".

i read one of his posts and I took it as Trey still isn't getting certain aspects of his throwing motion right. I believe he said his elbow isn't higher enough or something like that.

maybe he did say that Trey is still throwing high, idk.

i know treys improved but idk how much yet. Hopefully whatever short comings he still has are aggressively worked on before camp, which I'm sure is what will happen. I'll wait until camp before I get happy/bummed about it

Originally posted by NCommand:
LOL. What happened to, "I don't need Kurt Warner to think for me?"

Here's part II. Great stuff.

I don't need him to think for me. Haven't even watched the video. I watched the games, he took way more shots than Jimmy did. Stats that BayArea posted showed that.

You can just admit you were wrong. It's ok

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Looks like Trey still needs to get the ball down some. His throwing motion is more compact though, and it looks like they are working on footwork. Let's hope it pays off.

From what lol? The mass amounts of tape you've reviewed of him in OTAs?

I don't understand why you wanna get your panties twisted into a knot over it. I like Trey, but I'm expecting him to show improvement. I'm not one of those partisans who has chosen a player and cannot stand them catching any criticism. From the videos ive seen of Trey throwing, he is still throwing it a bit high. I don't give a f**k which guy starts at qb, as long as he is the best at the job.

First of all my panties are just fine. Second I'm actually curious what videos you're going off of, considering we've only had media access to two practices and even less video of the actual team drills.

There are several videos of him throwing, it doesn't take more than 15-20 throws to see that he is still throwing high. Sorry that that bothers you so much that you decided to get snarky about someone having an opinion. You guys who get super defensive about the least little criticism are strange. You act like any criticism is a personal attack on his character, and you're his momma rushing to defend him. Why not wait until they actually earn their place before you start going to the mat every time someone mentions that they aren't perfect, because nobody is perfect, and it would be totally unrealistic to expect it.

There are several videos of him throwing and I've seen him hit CMC high once and a ball sail over a ball boy or whoever they had out there catching. All the other throws I didn't see him having an issue throwing high.

That's why I asked. You talk about Lance getting coddled, how about just speaking honestly about someone? I don't claim to have seen every throw video of his from OTAs which is why I asked you what you've seen and snarky and sarcastic is how I post. Sorry that hurt your feelings.

There is plenty of posts in this thread painting a much worse picture of Lance that is actually out there so yeah, your take smelled of more of the same but if you have the videos you're referring to then please share them so I can apologize.

I could be reading peoples messages wrong and I really don't know if treys been "throwing high".

i read one of his posts and I took it as Trey still isn't getting certain aspects of his throwing motion right. I believe he said his elbow isn't higher enough or something like that.

maybe he did say that Trey is still throwing high, idk.

i know treys improved but idk how much yet. Hopefully whatever short comings he still has are aggressively worked on before camp, which I'm sure is what will happen. I'll wait until camp before I get happy/bummed about it

If he's talking about his throwing motion then it's an even bigger lol from me.

I've seen a few guys on here acting like they know QB mechanics better than guys coaching it for a living. It just comes off super lame to me.