Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:

I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:
I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:

I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:
I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:

I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him

It's just reality man. If a team really wanted him he wouldn't be here right now

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
On the 49ers' past belief in Lance: "We were ready to go with Trey. And Trey was going to go through a lot (last) year, and I believe he would have gotten to a level where he did similar stuff (to Purdy). He missed that (chance). Brock came in and did it. Now, I truly believe Trey can go do that. But Brock's already done it. And that's a very good thing for us to have."

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kyle-shanahan-says-trey-lance-can-still-be-49ers-future-at-qb-but-brock-purdys-already-done-it/amp/

As usual this thread is just a meeting room for dumb opinions and irrational views regarding Trey Lance; dumb because they aren't supported by direct sources, just conjecture and outright lies to support false narratives.

But take heart in knowing that sports writers are just as dishonest, such as in the recent report by Matt Maiocco stating that Brock Purdy is expected to be the starter week 1 based on him being cleared for practice Aug. 20th.

That may well be the case, but it was never an official statement or position released by the team and shouldn't be reported as such.

If it's not an official statement, then it's just unsubstantiated rumors such as the belief that Shanahan wanted Mac Jones over Lance.

Just stick to the facts of direct quotes and the observed actions from the front office and players.

Yes he truly believes Trey can score 30+ ppg, but he has him splitting reps with Darnold

Actions > Words

Yes, he stated that there will be a competition between the two and he followed through with his actions.

Interpret it how you'd like, you don't know the true motive behind it, whether it's to light a fire under Trey, or that maybe he believes that Darnold is equally as talented and deserves a fair shot to start if he proves himself better, etc.

Only Shanahan and the FO know the true motive for a QB competition, but for you it's just confirmation bias that the team doesn't believe in Trey.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:
I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him

It's just reality man. If a team really wanted him he wouldn't be here right now

You have no idea what teams were willing to offer, just like you don't know what really happened before the trade up. All you've posted is blind speculation. That's reality… man.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:
I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him

It's just reality man. If a team really wanted him he wouldn't be here right now

You have no idea what teams were willing to offer, just like you don't know what really happened before the trade up. All you've posted is blind speculation. That's reality… man.

It's like with JG, JL was on record repeatedly saying he wasn't gonna give up a QB1 type player, for anything less in return. So there is precedent here, he doesn't part with high value players, for peanuts, and he shouldn't it's smart GMing.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Silky:

I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him

It's just reality man. If a team really wanted him he wouldn't be here right now

You have no idea what teams were willing to offer, just like you don't know what really happened before the trade up. All you've posted is blind speculation. That's reality… man.

I do know we were taking calls and made it known. They weren't able to trade him so ya obviously nobody wanted him or they would have offered up.

The only part that's speculation is who was on the Mac side and who was on the Trey side. Kyle confirmed those are the 2 they traded up to choose between

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

man, Chuck, you are nailing it today... truth bombs

don't listen to what ShannaLynch says just watch what they do...

going to be a lot of salty tears when he gets traded or cut

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

man, Chuck, you are nailing it today... truth bombs

don't listen to what ShannaLynch says just watch what they do...

going to be a lot of salty tears when he gets traded or cut

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

man, Chuck, you are nailing it today... truth bombs

don't listen to what ShannaLynch says just watch what they do...

going to be a lot of salty tears when he gets traded or cut

Lance won't get cut. Lol I don't think that's remotely close to happening. They could trade him for cheap if they really wanted to. Cutting him would just be idiotic by the team.

i don't want Trey starting over Brock but I don't mind him being a backup, unless we trade him for a nice package.

if we keep Trey this year, I think Trey would look a lot better next off season after he has had a whole year to rework and focus on his mechanics/throwing motion. By then it should be close, or there, to second nature. Obviously that isn't the only thing that makes a qb good but it would be in a positive direction. He's still young too so it wouldn't be a big deal career wise for him. Just would suck for us contract wise.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

man, Chuck, you are nailing it today... truth bombs

don't listen to what ShannaLynch says just watch what they do...

going to be a lot of salty tears when he gets traded or cut

Lance won't get cut. Lol I don't think that's remotely close to happening. They could trade him for cheap if they really wanted to. Cutting him would just be idiotic by the team.

i don't want Trey starting over Brock but I don't mind him being a backup, unless we trade him for a nice package.

if we keep Trey this year, I think Trey would look a lot better next off season after he has had a whole year to rework and focus on his mechanics/throwing motion. By then it should be close, or there, to second nature. Obviously that isn't the only thing that makes a qb good but it would be in a positive direction. He's still young too so it wouldn't be a big deal career wise for him. Just would suck for us contract wise.

I'm fine with TL starting over Brock, if TL is better than Brock, or if Brock needs a few weeks to get ready. He may be 100% healthy, but also 100% rusty, it's a tight timetable, although the word is he's ahead of schedule, which is good.

I just can't believe every single QB we have tried to build around, in the KS era, has gotten nuked as soon as we name them, the guy. It is without fail.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'm fine with TL starting over Brock, if TL is better than Brock, or if Brock needs a few weeks to get ready. He may be 100% healthy, but also 100% rusty, it's a tight timetable, although the word is he's ahead of schedule, which is good.

I just can't believe every single QB we have tried to build around, in the KS era, has gotten nuked as soon as we name them, the guy. It is without fail.

Why can't u believe it? This is a physical sport and he hasn't exactly been here 10 years or anything. Brock wasn't "named" last year and almost made it all the way to the promise land so just how many guys are u really talking about? Jimmy got injured after starting his 1st 8 games,...that's not "as soon." Trey Lance after a couple games, sure. Who else has been named "the guy" here? Seems like more of a mental lapse than anything else.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'm fine with TL starting over Brock, if TL is better than Brock, or if Brock needs a few weeks to get ready. He may be 100% healthy, but also 100% rusty, it's a tight timetable, although the word is he's ahead of schedule, which is good.

I just can't believe every single QB we have tried to build around, in the KS era, has gotten nuked as soon as we name them, the guy. It is without fail.

Why can't u believe it? This is a physical sport and he hasn't exactly been here 10 years or anything. Brock wasn't "named" last year and almost made it all the way to the promise land so just how many guys are u really talking about? Jimmy got injured after starting his 1st 8 games,...that's not "as soon." Trey Lance after a couple games, sure. Who else has been named "the guy" here? Seems like more of a mental lapse than anything else.

just my take on things. you are welcome to disagree friend