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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

man, Chuck, you are nailing it today... truth bombs

don't listen to what ShannaLynch says just watch what they do...

going to be a lot of salty tears when he gets traded or cut


Lance won't get cut. Lol I don't think that's remotely close to happening. They could trade him for cheap if they really wanted to. Cutting him would just be idiotic by the team.

i don't want Trey starting over Brock but I don't mind him being a backup, unless we trade him for a nice package.

if we keep Trey this year, I think Trey would look a lot better next off season after he has had a whole year to rework and focus on his mechanics/throwing motion. By then it should be close, or there, to second nature. Obviously that isn't the only thing that makes a qb good but it would be in a positive direction. He's still young too so it wouldn't be a big deal career wise for him. Just would suck for us contract wise.

I'm fine with TL starting over Brock, if TL is better than Brock, or if Brock needs a few weeks to get ready. He may be 100% healthy, but also 100% rusty, it's a tight timetable, although the word is he's ahead of schedule, which is good.

I just can't believe every single QB we have tried to build around, in the KS era, has gotten nuked as soon as we name them, the guy. It is without fail.

I don't think Brock is going to be rusty. This isn't like an ACL injury where you can't do anything for 9 months besides rehab your knee.

he's been doing everything except throwing a football. He will be more than half way done with the throwing rehab by the time training camp even starts. Idk exactly how the final phase of rehab is structured but I'd imagine by the time training camp starts (or at worst a few weeks in), he will be ready for team activities in some capacity.

he's also in Jacksonville working with a QB coach on his mechanics. He's been studying film of himself, footwork, the playbook etc. he's doing almost everything that you usually do, just not team activities.

QBs can get much much better without throwing a football. There are tons of things outside of throwing the football that you can do to become a much better qb. He also has a ton of experience, he isn't your typical inexperienced young qb.

will he have some rust to shake off? Sure. Most likely, but how much? I don't think it'll be much. He's doing tons of drills, studying, working out, around the team/coaches etc. so I'm not worried. If it was an ACL type injury/rehab? Yeah, that would be a huge concern.

i honestly think this glimmer of hope that some have of someone else besides Brock starting week 1 is hilarious. I've never thought anyone but Brock would start week 1. It looks like he will too.

hopefully Darnold/Lance never see the field as starting qb this year and Brock continues his play. If he doesn't, then everything opens up.
Originally posted by tankle104:
I don't think Brock is going to be rusty.....


Originally posted by tankle104:
will he have some rust to shake off? Sure

Okay. You sound an awful lot like....
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

man, Chuck, you are nailing it today... truth bombs

don't listen to what ShannaLynch says just watch what they do...

going to be a lot of salty tears when he gets traded or cut

s**t post after s**t post
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Silky:
I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him


It's just reality man. If a team really wanted him he wouldn't be here right now

FACT

the bid didn't meet the ask at that time, but eventually they will
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'm fine with TL starting over Brock, if TL is better than Brock, or if Brock needs a few weeks to get ready. He may be 100% healthy, but also 100% rusty, it's a tight timetable, although the word is he's ahead of schedule, which is good.

I just can't believe every single QB we have tried to build around, in the KS era, has gotten nuked as soon as we name them, the guy. It is without fail.

Because Kyle can't and doesn't develop QB's.
Originally posted by eric_anthony:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I'm fine with TL starting over Brock, if TL is better than Brock, or if Brock needs a few weeks to get ready. He may be 100% healthy, but also 100% rusty, it's a tight timetable, although the word is he's ahead of schedule, which is good.

I just can't believe every single QB we have tried to build around, in the KS era, has gotten nuked as soon as we name them, the guy. It is without fail.

Because Kyle can't and doesn't develop QB's.
no HC does
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Silky:
I also don't think it helps that the NFL has the least amount of games and longest offseason compared to the NBA, MLB, NHL, etc. If this situation happened in the NBA for instance, we would atleast have a much higher sample size of play if someone got hurt. Take Zion Williamson for example. He's barely played but we have seen what he can do when completely healthy...and in shape...and not get several women pregnant and tell them you'll marry them and move them to NO without the others knowing keeping all your baby mamas secret. Ok maybe he wasn't the best example but hopefully you know what I mean. I need to see Trey play atleast....8 more games? Half a season. There's just no way to say he's a bust or not

Still waiting on Carmazzi to get those 8 games, or 1 game. I'm not saying TL is that, TL already played and played well, vs HOU for instance. Just making a broader point, it's fair to say a guy is a bust, if they don't do enough to get on the field. Now it's too early to say that about TL, but in 5 more years if he has no more games played, he would be a bust, right?

So can he get past Sam? Can he compete with Brock? Can he force the hand of KS and get those starts that we all are talking about? He has to earn the starts, they won't be handed.

The organization does not seem to feel the need to see Trey anymore. After what was invested in him, that should tell us everything

They are out there seeing him all summer long

Doesn't mean they care to. He's there because nobody else wanted him


It's just reality man. If a team really wanted him he wouldn't be here right now

FACT

the bid didn't meet the ask at that time, but eventually they will

LMAO, you wouldn't know a fact if it s**t on your head.
Originally posted by tankle104:
I don't think Brock is going to be rusty. This isn't like an ACL injury where you can't do anything for 9 months besides rehab your knee.

he's been doing everything except throwing a football. He will be more than half way done with the throwing rehab by the time training camp even starts. Idk exactly how the final phase of rehab is structured but I'd imagine by the time training camp starts (or at worst a few weeks in), he will be ready for team activities in some capacity.

he's also in Jacksonville working with a QB coach on his mechanics. He's been studying film of himself, footwork, the playbook etc. he's doing almost everything that you usually do, just not team activities.

QBs can get much much better without throwing a football. There are tons of things outside of throwing the football that you can do to become a much better qb. He also has a ton of experience, he isn't your typical inexperienced young qb.

will he have some rust to shake off? Sure. Most likely, but how much? I don't think it'll be much. He's doing tons of drills, studying, working out, around the team/coaches etc. so I'm not worried. If it was an ACL type injury/rehab? Yeah, that would be a huge concern.

i honestly think this glimmer of hope that some have of someone else besides Brock starting week 1 is hilarious. I've never thought anyone but Brock would start week 1. It looks like he will too.

hopefully Darnold/Lance never see the field as starting qb this year and Brock continues his play. If he doesn't, then everything opens up.

Yeah I mean Jimmy who was a 5 yr vet here didn't look rusty at all when he came in and played vs the Broncos after his shoulder injury which was as extensive as Brock's injury

hopefully the best QB ends up playing regardless of past play. Hopefully we have an answer on who's the best guy for SF by the end of the year. Hopefully kyle doesn't decide to go the "safe" route again and we end up falling short (again) in part because of that…along with passing on greater talent (again).

Hopefully whomever is the guy will develop and into that elite level QB.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jun 10, 2023 at 6:47 AM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I mean Jimmy who was a 5 yr vet here didn't look rusty at all when he came in and played vs the Broncos after his shoulder injury which was as extensive as Brock's injury

hopefully the best QB ends up playing regardless of past play. Hopefully we have an answer on who's the best guy for SF by the end of the year. Hopefully kyle doesn't decide to go the "safe" route again and we end up falling short (again) in part because of that…along with passing on greater talent (again).

Hopefully whomever is the guy will develop and into that elite level QB.

He already has. Don't worry Buzzy, Brock will be ready to continue to dominate
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Yeah I mean Jimmy who was a 5 yr vet here didn't look rusty at all when he came in and played vs the Broncos after his shoulder injury which was as extensive as Brock's injury

hopefully the best QB ends up playing regardless of past play. Hopefully we have an answer on who's the best guy for SF by the end of the year. Hopefully kyle doesn't decide to go the "safe" route again and we end up falling short (again) in part because of that…along with passing on greater talent (again).

Hopefully whomever is the guy will develop and into that elite level QB.

He already has. Don't worry Buzzy, Brock will be ready to continue to dominate

I hope Brock can take up where he left off. i wouldn't say he dominated but he certainly was very good. His numbers and effectiveness were starting to tail off a little in his last couple games so I'm interested in seeing how he does to start the season. Call me cautiously optimistic.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I hope Brock can take up where he left off. i wouldn't say he dominated but he certainly was very good. His numbers and effectiveness were starting to tail off a little in his last couple games so I'm interested in seeing how he does to start the season. Call me cautiously optimistic.

Cautiously optimistic is a good description of where things stand.
Originally posted by krizay:
He already has. Don't worry Buzzy, Brock will be ready to continue to dominate

7 games and not everyone was great 😂 man ya'll are so premature.

if Brock doesn't come out playing at that "elite" level like you said he was…you're all gonna dump him so fast.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
7 games and not everyone was great 😂 man ya'll are so premature.

if Brock doesn't come out playing at that "elite" level like you said he was…you're all gonna dump him so fast.

If only they could've added Stetson Bennett. Now if Brock fails they gotta wait for the next QB from a stacked team with a drinking problem that is "accurate"
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
7 games and not everyone was great 😂 man ya'll are so premature.

if Brock doesn't come out playing at that "elite" level like you said he was…you're all gonna dump him so fast.

If only they could've added Stetson Bennett. Now if Brock fails they gotta wait for the next QB from a stacked team with a drinking problem that is "accurate"

😂

"Accurate" in college Mayfield was regarded as one of the most accurate QBs in college history. I mean I guess he was gonna be great…He broke the rookie TD record in 13 games on the worst roster in football with Hue Jackson as his HC. Oops.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
7 games and not everyone was great 😂 man ya'll are so premature.

if Brock doesn't come out playing at that "elite" level like you said he was…you're all gonna dump him so fast.

If only they could've added Stetson Bennett. Now if Brock fails they gotta wait for the next QB from a stacked team with a drinking problem that is "accurate"

😂

"Accurate" in college Mayfield was regarded as one of the most accurate QBs in college history. I mean I guess he was gonna be great…He broke the rookie TD record in 13 games on the worst roster in football with Hue Jackson as his HC. Oops.

Perhaps had he accomplished nothing… you would be all about him!


I'm just kiddin NY. I'm really liking how hungry Lance is. He is a likable kid. I am excited for training camp to see how the QBs perform and continue to work. I am hoping each kicks up the heat in competition and drive each other to higher levels.
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