Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
He's a hell of a lot closer to biggest bust of all time than he is to future hofer.

Would be foolish to think anything else at this point.

Coaches have seen two years of practices with him and he only had to beat out average garapollo and 7th round rookie Brock. Plus he's gifted the leeway of huge draft capital spent on him and the sunk cost fallacy.

Sucks for him but Brock playing so good and him sitting so long he's probably done at this point. Look at what a year off lead to with Antonio brown and leveon bell. That's a hell of a lot more likely scenario that the Adrian Peterson one.

I wouldn't expect him to be markedly better or worse than darnold has been the last few years given they have performed similar in camp.

Im not a trey believer, but this is harsh. Trey has this season to prove himself before he's labeled anything. If he gets beat out or gets injured? Oof.

One thing I will.say about watching trey play qb so far. It feels.like the entire offense is run in slow motion. From his labored running plays, to his throwing motion, to the entire offense. I don't know why, but it just looks that way.

what else would you expect from a small college QB playing out of his league?

in the end TL gets added to the list of all time oiverhyped NFL QB 1st round busts like Tim Crouch, Akili Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel and on and on and on...

"Podcast: Should the 49ers trade for Danielle Hunter or Chase Young?"
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/169582-podcast-should-49ers-trade-danielle-hunter-chase-young/

I swear these fools monitor the forum to find topics to discuss!

And what capital are they going to use for a potential trade, do they think Lynch will give up draft picks for these players?

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
what else would you expect from a small college QB playing out of his league?

in the end TL gets added to the list of all time oiverhyped NFL QB 1st round busts like Tim Crouch, Akili Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel and on and on and on...

What a goofy ass post

Originally posted by eric_anthony:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
what else would you expect from a small college QB playing out of his league?

in the end TL gets added to the list of all time oiverhyped NFL QB 1st round busts like Tim Crouch, Akili Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel and on and on and on...

What a goofy ass post

It's not really a post so much as an angry, incoherent rant. To hate the kid so much based off of literally nothing says so much more about the poster than what he's trying to say.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
He's a hell of a lot closer to biggest bust of all time than he is to future hofer.

Would be foolish to think anything else at this point.

Coaches have seen two years of practices with him and he only had to beat out average garapollo and 7th round rookie Brock. Plus he's gifted the leeway of huge draft capital spent on him and the sunk cost fallacy.

Sucks for him but Brock playing so good and him sitting so long he's probably done at this point. Look at what a year off lead to with Antonio brown and leveon bell. That's a hell of a lot more likely scenario that the Adrian Peterson one.

I wouldn't expect him to be markedly better or worse than darnold has been the last few years given they have performed similar in camp.

Im not a trey believer, but this is harsh. Trey has this season to prove himself before he's labeled anything. If he gets beat out or gets injured? Oof.

One thing I will.say about watching trey play qb so far. It feels.like the entire offense is run in slow motion. From his labored running plays, to his throwing motion, to the entire offense. I don't know why, but it just looks that way.

what else would you expect from a small college QB playing out of his league?

in the end TL gets added to the list of all time oiverhyped NFL QB 1st round busts like Tim Crouch, Akili Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel and on and on and on...

Lance has played so few games--in college and the NFL that nobody knows what kind of player he can be. Trtading up and giving up so many draft choices for an unknown was not a wise decision.

Originally posted by napo:
Lance has played so few games--in college and the NFL that nobody knows what kind of player he can be. Trtading up and giving up so many draft choices for an unknown was not a wise decision.

IIt's like This Thread hasn't changed in a year. Same asterisks same maybes

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
He's a hell of a lot closer to biggest bust of all time than he is to future hofer.

Would be foolish to think anything else at this point.

Coaches have seen two years of practices with him and he only had to beat out average garapollo and 7th round rookie Brock. Plus he's gifted the leeway of huge draft capital spent on him and the sunk cost fallacy.

Sucks for him but Brock playing so good and him sitting so long he's probably done at this point. Look at what a year off lead to with Antonio brown and leveon bell. That's a hell of a lot more likely scenario that the Adrian Peterson one.

I wouldn't expect him to be markedly better or worse than darnold has been the last few years given they have performed similar in camp.

What's foolish is thinking there isn't a huge gap between biggest bust of all time and future HOFer or putting Trey into either extreme after 4 starts and before he turns 23 years old.

Eagles coaches saw 2 years worth of Jalen Hurts and a lot more attempts both in college and NFL and wanted to move on from him before this last season…almost like teams don't always know what they have? Nah couldn't be…

And the ridiculous year off comparison for Brown and Bell is way out there. Both guys switched teams they were on. One guy plays a position which sees players hit the wall suddenly all the time and the other was a headcase who kept getting suspended.

There is simply not enough information on Trey right now to make a judgment on him now. Simple as that. Anyone making statements about the kid like he's a proven bust or proven stud is just talking out their ass.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
He's a hell of a lot closer to biggest bust of all time than he is to future hofer.

Would be foolish to think anything else at this point.

Coaches have seen two years of practices with him and he only had to beat out average garapollo and 7th round rookie Brock. Plus he's gifted the leeway of huge draft capital spent on him and the sunk cost fallacy.

Sucks for him but Brock playing so good and him sitting so long he's probably done at this point. Look at what a year off lead to with Antonio brown and leveon bell. That's a hell of a lot more likely scenario that the Adrian Peterson one.

I wouldn't expect him to be markedly better or worse than darnold has been the last few years given they have performed similar in camp.

What's foolish is thinking there isn't a huge gap between biggest bust of all time and future HOFer or putting Trey into either extreme after 4 starts and before he turns 23 years old.

Eagles coaches saw 2 years worth of Jalen Hurts and a lot more attempts both in college and NFL and wanted to move on from him before this last season…almost like teams don't always know what they have? Nah couldn't be…

And the ridiculous year off comparison for Brown and Bell is way out there. Both guys switched teams they were on. One guy plays a position which sees players hit the wall suddenly all the time and the other was a headcase who kept getting suspended.

There is simply not enough information on Trey right now to make a judgment on him now. Simple as that. Anyone making statements about the kid like he's a proven bust or proven stud is just talking out their ass.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

He's a hell of a lot closer to biggest bust of all time than he is to future hofer.

Would be foolish to think anything else at this point.

Coaches have seen two years of practices with him and he only had to beat out average garapollo and 7th round rookie Brock. Plus he's gifted the leeway of huge draft capital spent on him and the sunk cost fallacy.

Sucks for him but Brock playing so good and him sitting so long he's probably done at this point. Look at what a year off lead to with Antonio brown and leveon bell. That's a hell of a lot more likely scenario that the Adrian Peterson one.

I wouldn't expect him to be markedly better or worse than darnold has been the last few years given they have performed similar in camp.

What's foolish is thinking there isn't a huge gap between biggest bust of all time and future HOFer or putting Trey into either extreme after 4 starts and before he turns 23 years old.

Eagles coaches saw 2 years worth of Jalen Hurts and a lot more attempts both in college and NFL and wanted to move on from him before this last season…almost like teams don't always know what they have? Nah couldn't be…

And the ridiculous year off comparison for Brown and Bell is way out there. Both guys switched teams they were on. One guy plays a position which sees players hit the wall suddenly all the time and the other was a headcase who kept getting suspended.

There is simply not enough information on Trey right now to make a judgment on him now. Simple as that. Anyone making statements about the kid like he's a proven bust or proven stud is just talking out their ass.

Eagles were not as invested in Hurts as we are in Trey. That story still isn't written yet either. They might've known what they had and Hurts screwed them with a fluke season. He won't always have the best Oline and all those weapons, so we'll see how it goes for them

Going into year 3, anything less than "Trey is the starter" means he has not lived up to expectations. The last pick in the draft (with a f**ked up elbow) should not take his place if he's meeting expectations behind the scenes (we know he's not on the field). I'd have more hope if they didn't bring Darnold in, but that gives you an idea of where Trey is at. They did not load up with a bust because they might need him for a SB run lol. The plan is to trade Trey and have Sam as the backup

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Eagles were not as invested in Hurts as we are in Trey. That story still isn't written yet either. They might've known what they had and Hurts screwed them with a fluke season. He won't always have the best Oline and all those weapons, so we'll see how it goes for them

Going into year 3, anything less than "Trey is the starter" means he has not lived up to expectations. The last pick in the draft (with a f**ked up elbow) should not take his place if he's meeting expectations behind the scenes (we know he's not on the field). I'd have more hope if they didn't bring Darnold in, but that gives you an idea of where Trey is at. They did not load up with a bust because they might need him for a SB run lol. The plan is to trade Trey and have Sam as the backup

If I read you correct your post implies, Eagles 'knew what they had' in Hurts, and it wasn't good. They put him out there as QB1 anyway. He has a 'fluke' season screwing Philly all the way to the SB. Eagles, who again don't really believe him, pay him record money.

something about the above feels off, maybe all of it

Originally posted by genus49:
What's foolish is thinking there isn't a huge gap between biggest bust of all time and future HOFer or putting Trey into either extreme after 4 starts and before he turns 23 years old.

Eagles coaches saw 2 years worth of Jalen Hurts and a lot more attempts both in college and NFL and wanted to move on from him before this last season…almost like teams don't always know what they have? Nah couldn't be…

And the ridiculous year off comparison for Brown and Bell is way out there. Both guys switched teams they were on. One guy plays a position which sees players hit the wall suddenly all the time and the other was a headcase who kept getting suspended.

There is simply not enough information on Trey right now to make a judgment on him now. Simple as that. Anyone making statements about the kid like he's a proven bust or proven stud is just talking out their ass.

Hurts didn't pass the eye test prior to last season.

That playoff game against the Bucs, in 2021 season, he seemed like he was holding the Eagles back.

At that moment, he was not even at the Josh Allen 2019 level (whom I thought was below Jimmy Garoppolo at that time).

Pretty wild turn of events, and Hurts is now seen as being a top 5-10 QB in the league by many people.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Eagles were not as invested in Hurts as we are in Trey. That story still isn't written yet either. They might've known what they had and Hurts screwed them with a fluke season. He won't always have the best Oline and all those weapons, so we'll see how it goes for them

Going into year 3, anything less than "Trey is the starter" means he has not lived up to expectations. The last pick in the draft (with a f**ked up elbow) should not take his place if he's meeting expectations behind the scenes (we know he's not on the field). I'd have more hope if they didn't bring Darnold in, but that gives you an idea of where Trey is at. They did not load up with a bust because they might need him for a SB run lol. The plan is to trade Trey and have Sam as the backup

If I read you correct your post implies, Eagles 'knew what they had' in Hurts, and it wasn't good. They put him out there as QB1 anyway. He has a 'fluke' season screwing Philly all the way to the SB. Eagles, who again don't really believe him, pay him record money.

something about the above feels off, maybe all of it

They have no choice now. They have a loaded roster, they can't just let him go and say "sorry guys" to the rest of their players.

Last year was a fluke year in my mind and I think he screwed them long term. Easy schedule and even easier playoffs for them. They'll be contenders as long as they are loaded, but Hurts isn't all that and you could tell the Eagles know this. They got screwed though

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:
Hurts didn't pass the eye test prior to last season.

That playoff game against the Bucs, in 2021 season, he seemed like he was holding the Eagles back.

At that moment, he was not even at the Josh Allen 2019 level (whom I thought was below Jimmy Garoppolo at that time).

Pretty wild turn of events, and Hurts is now seen as being a top 5-10 QB in the league by many people.

I think he passed the eye test to anyone watching. Check the bold predictions thread, I had him down for a big year, prior to the season.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Eagles were not as invested in Hurts as we are in Trey. That story still isn't written yet either. They might've known what they had and Hurts screwed them with a fluke season. He won't always have the best Oline and all those weapons, so we'll see how it goes for them

Going into year 3, anything less than "Trey is the starter" means he has not lived up to expectations. The last pick in the draft (with a f**ked up elbow) should not take his place if he's meeting expectations behind the scenes (we know he's not on the field). I'd have more hope if they didn't bring Darnold in, but that gives you an idea of where Trey is at. They did not load up with a bust because they might need him for a SB run lol. The plan is to trade Trey and have Sam as the backup

If I read you correct your post implies, Eagles 'knew what they had' in Hurts, and it wasn't good. They put him out there as QB1 anyway. He has a 'fluke' season screwing Philly all the way to the SB. Eagles, who again don't really believe him, pay him record money.

something about the above feels off, maybe all of it

They have no choice now. They have a loaded roster, they can't just let him go and say "sorry guys" to the rest of their players.

Last year was a fluke year in my mind and I think he screwed them long term. Easy schedule and even easier playoffs for them. They'll be contenders as long as they are loaded, but Hurts isn't all that and you could tell the Eagles know this. They got screwed though

He was an MVP candidate……

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Eagles were not as invested in Hurts as we are in Trey. That story still isn't written yet either. They might've known what they had and Hurts screwed them with a fluke season. He won't always have the best Oline and all those weapons, so we'll see how it goes for them

Going into year 3, anything less than "Trey is the starter" means he has not lived up to expectations. The last pick in the draft (with a f**ked up elbow) should not take his place if he's meeting expectations behind the scenes (we know he's not on the field). I'd have more hope if they didn't bring Darnold in, but that gives you an idea of where Trey is at. They did not load up with a bust because they might need him for a SB run lol. The plan is to trade Trey and have Sam as the backup

If I read you correct your post implies, Eagles 'knew what they had' in Hurts, and it wasn't good. They put him out there as QB1 anyway. He has a 'fluke' season screwing Philly all the way to the SB. Eagles, who again don't really believe him, pay him record money.

something about the above feels off, maybe all of it

They have no choice now. They have a loaded roster, they can't just let him go and say "sorry guys" to the rest of their players.

Last year was a fluke year in my mind and I think he screwed them long term. Easy schedule and even easier playoffs for them. They'll be contenders as long as they are loaded, but Hurts isn't all that and you could tell the Eagles know this. They got screwed though

He was an MVP candidate……

Wonder if TL will screw us next by setting NFL records and a trip to the SB