Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It just struck me as odd as we burn three ones to hopefully have a guy on the level of the prior guy.

I prefer more bets, rather than one big bet, we made one very big bet on TL, as a club. If you look at NE, they got Mac, and also Cole Strange and Christian Gonzalez. They kept all their ones, and the blowback is a lot less impactful if Mac doesn't work out, cuz they at least have Strange and this CB who maybe will be really good.

And yet the 9ers have a guy who has at least shown glimpses of elite play in a small sample while New England has a guy who needs to be carried to wins because his sklllset is weak and has no real upside. Cole Strange and Christian Gonzalez won't make up for that. No Pat fan will be ok with Mac not working out because they have a starting nfl guard and possible solid cornerback. Only way it doesn't blow back if Mac fails is if Bailey Zappe is Brock 2.0.

The big bet the team can't miss on is giving huge money to Brock or Trey down the line.

What he's saying is Mac Jones for one pick > Trey Lance for three picks. I don't see how anyone could disagree with this, up until this point anyway.

you miss every shot you don't take.. drafting Mac is not taking a shot

We gambled and it hasn't worked out, so far

Again, Faithful's point is he prefers to have multiple "shots" rather than just one. I agree. Moving up in the first round (or at all) doesn't work out very often.

I have a feeling you might have to repeat this a couple more times lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
stop being stuck on the amount we gambled with. it didn't effect us. Now we're back to having a first rounder next year

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
stop being stuck on the amount we gambled with. it didn't effect us. Now we're back to having a first rounder next year

It doesn't effect because they are mitigating the mistakes by nailing other selections. I wish they'd be a bit more disciplined with using draft pick value more effectively but in the aggregate they are still a top 5 management team.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It just struck me as odd as we burn three ones to hopefully have a guy on the level of the prior guy.

I prefer more bets, rather than one big bet, we made one very big bet on TL, as a club. If you look at NE, they got Mac, and also Cole Strange and Christian Gonzalez. They kept all their ones, and the blowback is a lot less impactful if Mac doesn't work out, cuz they at least have Strange and this CB who maybe will be really good.

And yet the 9ers have a guy who has at least shown glimpses of elite play in a small sample while New England has a guy who needs to be carried to wins because his sklllset is weak and has no real upside. Cole Strange and Christian Gonzalez won't make up for that. No Pat fan will be ok with Mac not working out because they have a starting nfl guard and possible solid cornerback. Only way it doesn't blow back if Mac fails is if Bailey Zappe is Brock 2.0.

The big bet the team can't miss on is giving huge money to Brock or Trey down the line.

What he's saying is Mac Jones for one pick > Trey Lance for three picks. I don't see how anyone could disagree with this, up until this point anyway.

you miss every shot you don't take.. drafting Mac is not taking a shot

We gambled and it hasn't worked out, so far

Again, Faithful's point is he prefers to have multiple "shots" rather than just one. I agree. Moving up in the first round (or at all) doesn't work out very often.

I have a feeling you might have to repeat this a couple more times lol

stop being stuck on the amount we gambled with. it didn't effect us. Now we're back to having a first rounder next year

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Drafting isn't easy. We had a chance to gamble with minimal damage, so we went for it

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Drafting isn't easy. We had a chance to gamble with minimal damage, so we went for it

It becomes minimal damage when you potentially make the greatest draft pick ever. The importance of scouting.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Of course it affected us. Whoever we would have selected at 12 plus the picks we gave up could very well have contributed and gotten us over the hump at least once in the past two seasons. They absolutely would have contributed more than Trey has so far, we just don't know how much.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Who is this "greatest draft pick ever" you keep referencing? Purdy?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Of course it affected us. Whoever we would have selected at 12 plus the picks we gave up could very well have contributed and gotten us over the hump at least once in the past two seasons. They absolutely would have contributed more than Trey has so far, we just don't know how much.

Alex Leatherwood wouldn't have. Rashawn Slater would've been zero help in 2022. Really depends on the player and the circumstances.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Of course it affected us. Whoever we would have selected at 12 plus the picks we gave up could very well have contributed and gotten us over the hump at least once in the past two seasons. They absolutely would have contributed more than Trey has so far, we just don't know how much.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Parsons absolutely would have. Although I highly doubt Kyle would have taken him. He prefers "system" guys vs. BPA.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Parsons absolutely would have. Although I highly doubt Kyle would have taken him. He prefers "system" guys vs. BPA.

But that's a hindsight pick now. Ray Lewis and TO wouldve been better than TO and JJ Stokes.

Josh Allen would've won us a ring too if we let Jimmy walk and used the comp pick to trade up for him.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Parsons absolutely would have. Although I highly doubt Kyle would have taken him. He prefers "system" guys vs. BPA.

But that's a hindsight pick now. Ray Lewis and TO wouldve been better than TO and JJ Stokes.

Josh Allen would've won us a ring too if we let Jimmy walk and used the comp pick to trade up for him.

There is absolutely no way we were letting Jimmy walk after what he did in 2017 though. That's a MUCH bigger stretch than just not trading three picks to move up for Trey.

I mean if you want to really go crazy we could have drafted Mahomes instead of Soloman Thomas and Dalvin Cook instead of moving up for Reuben Foster in 2017. Lol

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You are right Furlow. 100% basically was on board with paying JG. I think of lot of fans were split on the decision to move up from 12 to 3. And also split on who to take at 3.

Originally posted by Furlow:
There is absolutely no way we were letting Jimmy walk after what he did in 2017 though. That's a MUCH bigger stretch than just not trading three picks to move up for Trey.

I mean if you want to really go crazy we could have drafted Mahomes instead of Soloman Thomas and Dalvin Cook instead of moving up for Reuben Foster in 2017. Lol