Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Hypocrisy, fail. You're just continuing to take shots at me to bait me. I said nothing about you or how you post.

As opposed to the "some of you" shot to bait others?

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets not act like some of you haven't propped this up to make him look like he was all world.

That one btw is my favorite, TL beat tue Texans which was a must win game. Lmfao

You have Lance confused with a former 9ers QB.

Even NY doesn't think Lance is all world

Duh why would I bring up the ex-9er or former 49ers QB in a Trey Lance thread?? Aww was that way to try and take a shot at me.

Bc your comment is full of s**t lol. Who thinks Trey is all world?

You're comment is full of s**t and wrong. I didn't say you guys were sating he was all world. Read it again.

LOL

"lets not act like some of you havent propped this up to make him look LIKE HE WAS ALL WORLD."

Cmon dude. No you didnt say people said he was all world. You said people were making it look like he was all world. Tomato, Tomahto.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Just going off what we know

- There is no special film of him at any level

- He's played one full season, and it was on the little league globetrotters. They had Christian Watson and they were still run first

- He has sucked in the NFL in a great situation. Small sample, but it align with what we've seen in pre season and heard from practice reports

- The biggest one imo, is that the organization that invested so much in him is done after 4 starts. He has to suck if that's the case. There is no other answer. He would have been given so much support this offseason if they believed in him

Dude! WTF are you talking about. Trey is 1-0 He beat the Texans in a must win game. That's the only game that you can judge Trey.

As for practice reports and preseason games. Did you forget his TD to Sherfield? What about his rolling left and throwing deep his pro day. You adding that into your report? Not too mention the mother of them all. He threw a pass while in the presence of Patrick F'ing Mahomes. Judge him by those 3 passes not the other 100+ passes. Fake fan!!!!!

You should be embarrassed with yourselves being this dramatic

Lets not act like some of you haven't propped this up to make him look like he was all world.

That one btw is my favorite, TL beat tue Texans which was a must win game. Lmfao

So it wasn't a "must win" game? I thought if we lost we'd have missed the playoffs.

Lol it was against a scrub ass Texans team. Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard could've beaten that them. Lets not act like he was playing Dallas in Dallas now.

See, that sounds like the exact thing you get on others about when they bring up the weather in Chicago.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Lets not act like some of you haven't propped this up to make him look like he was all world.

That one btw is my favorite, TL beat tue Texans which was a must win game. Lmfao

You have Lance confused with a former 9ers QB.

Even NY doesn't think Lance is all world

Duh why would I bring up the ex-9er or former 49ers QB in a Trey Lance thread?? Aww was that way to try and take a shot at me.

Bc your comment is full of s**t lol. Who thinks Trey is all world?

You're comment is full of s**t and wrong. I didn't say you guys were sating he was all world. Read it again.

LOL

"lets not act like some of you havent propped this up to make him look LIKE HE WAS ALL WORLD."

Cmon dude. No you didnt say people said he was all world. You said people were making it look like he was all world. Tomato, Tomahto.

Ya not sure what he's going for here...

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:


the hypocrisy is creating a thread where JG is 'holding us back'.. let's see a TL thread where you ask if the TL trade, and the swap of three ones, is holding us back

I said QB is an important position - it is
I said you want to invest - you do
this doesn't mean all investments, are smart investments, heck we could pay Matt Ryan $60m for one season, it would be dumb as rocks, but it would be 'not skimping' at the position.. so sure invest at the position, pay fair market value or even beyond, but for the best QB you can obtain.. was that TL? With Fields on the clock? Or BP coming next year, who is a better QB? Is TL even any good? I will leave that for you to decide.

Not to barge in here in this friendly feud, but I'd say Jimmy held us back and the Trey trade also held us back. Getting rid of Jimmy faster could've netted us something plus someone like Brady was available.

Picking Trey for three first rounders with the sole idea of redshirting and slowly developing him, also held us back. That's three starting caliber players, maybe even stars, we could have had over last three years on a win-now mode team.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Everything you said is nonsense.

1. Peyton manning didn't have a slow start. Lmao he was 3rd in the nfl in Passing yards and 5th in passing touchdowns. Yes, he lead the league in picks but he was on a bad team that leaned on him. He showed he was a superstar in the making, he just needed to work on the INT. His second year they went 13-3. Complete nonsense.

2. Joe montana didn't have a slow start? He just wasn't starting? He was also a 3rd round pick. No one was expecting him to be some future star that was drafted high in the first round. His first year starting full time he won the super bowl?

3. Steve young is like one of the only examples in nfl history where someone got off to a really rough start, left a team, and went on to be amazing and win a Super Bowl. He went to the USFL and not the NFL initially.

4. Josh allen wasn't off to a slow start. Lol It was clear he was talented. He had one question mark and it was his accuracy. That's all.

5. Trevor Lawrence: you can't win in this league with bad coaching and bad talent around you. In Lawrence case, he had probably the worst coach in NFL history. Lmao Lawrence was someone you KNEW was a bonafide generational talent and he wasn't the issue.

6. Aaron Rodgers didn't even play his first few years cause Farve was tearing it up. When Rodgers actually took over, he was great and continued to get better. Won a super bowl in what, his third year starting?

so stop with this nonsense. Lance has a great team around him, great coaching, great offensive playbook/calling, great culture etc. he has no excuse. He's extremely raw and inexperienced and I don't think he was ready to take on the mantle of leading a Super Bowl expectation team with tons of pro bowlers and all pros. I never thought it was the right pick and It's unfortunate how it's played out.

but stop using ridiculous examples, that I know you heard on the Krueg show lmao, because it's nonsense. Learn to look into these things.

lol Manning was league MVP his 2nd season. Saying he started slow is 100% accurate when you consider the rest of his career.

Same for Joe Montana, not the example I would've brought up but it still applies. Not all his fault of course but the example still fits.

Young everyone knows about - don't let me catch you hyping up Sam Darnold with the post above tho.

Josh Allen wasn't a slow starter lol? You joking right? His only issue was accuracy? He had highlight videos on how bad his accuracy was. Buffalo fans were furious at him and thought he was a bust.

In fact he was such a great comparison to Trey the dude even did a draft video for Trey, clearly people thought they were similar.

Lawrence clearly was held back by coaching but he also wasn't good. Still a solid example of a prospect even as good as Lawrence needing time to shake off the rust.

You can also add Jalen Hurts and Justin Fields. Both weren't exactly lighting the world on fire their first few starts. Team played them and let them develop and now they look like great players moving forward.

So manning started slow, even though he was top 5 in the nfl in touchdowns and yards as a rookie, just because he went on to have a HOF career? Lmao that's ridiculous.

starting slow is poor play. Manning held a ton of rookie records for like 10-15 years after his rookie year.

Stsrting slow isn't "because he didn't have as good of a season as he did the rest of his career". Lmao come on.

Yes Trey Lance can be QB1 but he's gotta show it in training camp and in preseason that he's is the man and for him to regain his job back by proving himself and beating all the QB'S in the roster but until then it's Brock Purdy team until he shows out otherwise. Trey Lance needs lots I mean lots of game reps to succeed in the NFL he needs his live reps if it ain't here in SF it will be somewhere else 😭 since we aren't patient with him. regardless its not Trey Lance fault we been losing these past 3 seasons some fans wanna label him a bust after only starting 3.5 games sheesh that ain't enough tbh I remembered the dark ages before we had Alex Smith but when we had Alex Smith us faithfuls were patient with him but can't with Trey Lance c'mon now

3 starts. That's all he has under his belt. 3 starts is not enough for all the crap this kid takes from the media. It's painful to watch and listen to. Give him a fair shot to perform then speak your mind. Just don't bury the kid before he gets his shot to play…

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
3 starts. That's all he has under his belt. 3 starts is not enough for all the crap this kid takes from the media. It's painful to watch and listen to. Give him a fair shot to perform then speak your mind. Just don't bury the kid before he gets his shot to play…

He was given a shot to unseat Jimmy year 1. Couldn't do it.
He was given the opportunity to take Jimmy's job when he played vs cardinals and texans. Couldn't do it.
He was given the starting job due to his draft position year 2, he loses 1 game and gets injured in game 2.
He is now given the opportunity to start again but can't separate from sam darnold.

How many more chances do you want to give this kid with a fully loaded roster ready to win now?

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

3 starts. That's all he has under his belt. 3 starts is not enough for all the crap this kid takes from the media. It's painful to watch and listen to. Give him a fair shot to perform then speak your mind. Just don't bury the kid before he gets his shot to play…

We don't need to give him anything. Idk why fans want everything given to him

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
He was given a shot to unseat Jimmy year 1. Couldn't do it.
He was given the opportunity to take Jimmy's job when he played vs cardinals and texans. Couldn't do it.
He was given the starting job due to his draft position year 2, he loses 1 game and gets injured in game 2.
He is now given the opportunity to start again but can't separate from sam darnold.

How many more chances do you want to give this kid with a fully loaded roster ready to win now?

TL can't separate from Brandon Allen either, a journeyman career backup....

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
He was given a shot to unseat Jimmy year 1. Couldn't do it.
He was given the opportunity to take Jimmy's job when he played vs cardinals and texans. Couldn't do it.
He was given the starting job due to his draft position year 2, he loses 1 game and gets injured in game 2.
He is now given the opportunity to start again but can't separate from sam darnold.

How many more chances do you want to give this kid with a fully loaded roster ready to win now?

TL can't separate from Brandon Allen either, a journeyman career backup....

so he is fair game to dump on daily.. before training camp and pre season? I am not advocating for him to start over Purdy… I am just asking the media to back off on the daily hits. Give him a chance to compete before destroying him..

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Not to barge in here in this friendly feud, but I'd say Jimmy held us back and the Trey trade also held us back. Getting rid of Jimmy faster could've netted us something plus someone like Brady was available.

Picking Trey for three first rounders with the sole idea of redshirting and slowly developing him, also held us back. That's three starting caliber players, maybe even stars, we could have had over last three years on a win-now mode team.

Um, iirc something over one third of 1st round draft picks are busts. I don't know the additional percentage that need to move to a 2nd team before they can break through into a starting role. To assume that the three picks would have translated into three starters is highly unlikely I don't even comment on the star potential.

I remember the time of the trade very clearly. We did not know which player the team was after. At the time, a lot of fans b#tched about how the team lacked the guts to go for a deal like this, then suddenly blam! The perception was that our only significant weakness was at qb. There was a lot of baloney talked at the time of the trade and later at the time of the draft, and maybe even more so now.

Personally I applaud the courage of the team in stepping up to the table and laying down their bet. So far it hasn't worked out, but it isn't over yet. The main issue remains injuries, and I have no theory to cover this. The team took the gamble and meantime continued to work on other options, such as FA and low draft picks. Had they not tried, there is every probability that posters would be filling the threads with complaints about how they lacked the courage to go for it.

Even with the injuries we are in the race, season by season.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Not to barge in here in this friendly feud, but I'd say Jimmy held us back and the Trey trade also held us back. Getting rid of Jimmy faster could've netted us something plus someone like Brady was available.

Picking Trey for three first rounders with the sole idea of redshirting and slowly developing him, also held us back. That's three starting caliber players, maybe even stars, we could have had over last three years on a win-now mode team.

Um, iirc something over one third of 1st round draft picks are busts. I don't know the additional percentage that need to move to a 2nd team before they can break through into a starting role. To assume that the three picks would have translated into three starters is highly unlikely I don't even comment on the star potential.

I remember the time of the trade very clearly. We did not know which player the team was after. At the time, a lot of fans b#tched about how the team lacked the guts to go for a deal like this, then suddenly blam! The perception was that our only significant weakness was at qb. There was a lot of baloney talked at the time of the trade and later at the time of the draft, and maybe even more so now.

Personally I applaud the courage of the team in stepping up to the table and laying down their bet. So far it hasn't worked out, but it isn't over yet. The main issue remains injuries, and I have no theory to cover this. The team took the gamble and meantime continued to work on other options, such as FA and low draft picks. Had they not tried, there is every probability that posters would be filling the threads with complaints about how they lacked the courage to go for it.

Even with the injuries we are in the race, season by season.

I agree in that I applauded their swinging for the fences trade up for Lance. Finding that qb is the entire point for a franchise so it makes sense.

I don't get all this negativity about Lance. He's played like 5 full games because of an injury. Everyone acts like he's been as bad as Darnold or as mediocre as Jimmy the last 4-5 years. He hasn't even played enough yet to pass honest judgement on.

So I won't be mad if he's a bust, but nobody knows that yet and the real pickle is how will the 49ers find out. Imo the only way is to play him so Kyle is in a dammed if you do/damned if you don't situation.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
3 starts. That's all he has under his belt. 3 starts is not enough for all the crap this kid takes from the media. It's painful to watch and listen to. Give him a fair shot to perform then speak your mind. Just don't bury the kid before he gets his shot to play…

We don't need to give him anything. Idk why fans want everything given to him

He opted for the NFL on that one miraculous FCS season. Should have stayed in college at least another year, but he didn't want to risk his draft positioning I guess. He did what he had to and earned 35M at age 20.