Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Webzone: "Nobody here has demonstrated they would be 'upset' if Lance had success."
Also Webzone: "nope. Trey will cost us the playoffs or I will delete my account" (I will keep the poster anonymous).
There's plenty of posts that have mocked Trey before he played a single game. Idk if you truly just didn't see those but they definitely exist.
The fact of the matter is... this entire offseason has been nothing but BS claim after BS claim in the Trey thread.
Remember when Trey was supposedly in Hawaii not working out with the team because of a couple Instagram posts? Or when Trey commenting the peace sign on post about Ran Carthorn leaving, which clearly meant he wants out/traded from the team? Or how about now, we're hearing REPORTS which you call opinion, that the team changed their mind at the last minute from Mac to Trey, how many posters in here have believed this information is true? I mean, come on, I've seen so many posts that assume this is FACT.
I feel like I'm missing several more examples...
You know, Kyle never wanted to draft him, the players don't like him, John Lynch wants him gone, all of these things were being said regularly with no evidence, not saying you agreed with any of that, the only report I think I disagreed with you on is the meeting the team had when we brought back Jimmy had something to do with Trey's ineffectiveness, (im paraphrasing) but as far as I'm concerned, we have no idea what actually happened or what was said in that meeting. I assumed it was more about Jimmy coming back then about Trey's performance. But I'm not going to use that in an argument as proof of anything.
I've tried to be very clear that I do not care if posters don't believe in Trey. I do agree that Trey should have the least amount of support based on the fact that he has proven the least, but the hypocrisy and unsubstantiated claims used against Trey have got to stop. For god sakes let him actually fail on the field then mock him. He's only lost two games.
You're still missing examples of posters who would be upset if Trey actually had success.
Some of the people who post here just can't seem to understand differences of opinion, and fall back on emotional explanations (really accusations in this case) instead of substantive ones.
Your statement that you've seen people mock Trey before he ever played a game is pretty close to a good example. I really haven't seen mocking as it is actually defined. I've seen criticism, doubt, frustration… and that's born from those people's individual opinions of Lance as a prospect. He didn't need to play a game for people to feel that way. Accept the fact that people are going to analyze and project things differently. Not everyone looked at Lance the same.
That said, I do think there are elements of what you're describing that exist beyond the people who regularly post on this board… but for the most part I see people unable to respond to differences of opinion, including opinions that are supported in evidence.
Maybe not "upset" but I would say someone willing to delete their account if Trey has success, is someone who's rooting against said player.
I mean, you can argue otherwise, but I think that's clearly a stretch to do so.
You haven't seen people mock Trey's hairline? Or people using the nicknames Trey_ningwheels or Trey'd Lance? Repeatedly calling him a FB? Come on now.
[ Edited by Waterbear on Jun 23, 2023 at 2:57 PM ]
