Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Magical thinking is this when a person believes thoughts, specific words, emotions or rituals can influence the external world, an example is the toxic positivity myth of ''The Secret' which believes in thinking good outcomes into existence.

What you're trying to accuse me of is 'motivated reasoning' which is using bias to construct and evaluate arguments to support a preferred conclusion.

The media driven narrative of Purdy being the week 1 starter can be considered magical thinking as it ignores the possibility of a setback or delay in Purdy's recovery, as well as ignores that Shanahan will be making the decision, not Kittle, Lynch, pundits, or fans.

First off, BP as QB1, isn't media driven. It's reality driven if you followed 2022 as we all did. It's also KS and JLs outright statement, that's he's earned it.

Everything I have seen, is QB1, with the if healthy caveat. I would, and have been, going a step further, and saying not only if healthy, but he's got to have enough time being healthy, to work with the ones, and be in game shape. Being able to practice in mid Aug is a tight turnaround for an early Sept week 1. That's about three weeks to cram in an offseason that most other QBs have months to prep for. Trust me, I get the concern. I hear he is trending toward QB1 week 1, based on his timeline. I would say it's a 50/50, which is better than I would have said, a month or two ago.

I hear you. I'm just pushing back against the false narrative that Lance has no chance at starting, that he's buried at QB3 no matter what he does.

We all know that nothing is set in stone, especially when it comes to our QBs' health.

Just because Lance may get another chance to start, it doesn't mean that he won't get injured or play himself out of the job.

But the notion that he's some raw prospect not capable of leading this team is false given that he's been in this system 3 years now and has shown that he can play well on this level.

On your last sentence, I don't think the notion is true or false. It's TBD.

I don't think he's shown he can play well on this level yet. Far from it. This was the Martz critique. He showed Martz that he's light years away from playing well at this level, that was the last full game he played, the one Martz was basing his determination on.

Mike Martz ranted about TL on a clip in which he was disheveled and most likely drunk. I don't think he was in a good place to make credible and objective observations about a young QB from afar.

And Lance looked like a starter during the Chicago game. Dif the team win? No, they lost for a number of reasons.

Lance had the interception, missed Deebo on the slant route that would have been a TD, and missed wildly on three screen passes, but he also made elite throws, something that he's done in every game he's played in on the NFL level.

The Niners outgained the Bears 331 yards to 204 yards and converted 8 of 17 third down plays. The game got away from Trey and the team because:

. 12 penalties

. Deebo's red zone fumble

. Talanoa Hufanga's blown coverage on two tds

. offensive line getting manhandled

. a missed block by Juszczyk that led to an early and overthrown pass to Kroft,

. Aiyuk pushing off on a nice 3rd pass from Trey

. torrential rain that prevented the team from rallying late.

Just a bad game all around, but the team rebounded, unfortunately Lance didn't get a chance to because of the injury.

But you can even see the next week that of his three passes thrown against Seattle. Two were precise and one was a throwaway on an incoming blitz.

He'll get his chance again this training camp and preseason, and regular season too if Purdy isn't ready to go week 1.

And off the rails we go.. I haven't heard the missed TD was Juice's fault, that's a new one for me

You can check it out for yourself at the 0:24 mark. Juice doesn't block the defender but continues on his route, resulting in Trey throwing early.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eR04MfS-FQA&pp=ygUedHJleSBsYW5jZSBjaGljYWdvIGV2ZXJ5IHRocm93

you call this a missed block in one post, and him running a route in another post.. which is it?

Both, it seems like the play design called for him to run a route with the intention of taking a defender with him, but since the defender was already in the backfield he should have blocked.

Just poor execution.

yeah juice should have known that he is the only guy in between the defender and the QB

The TL thread, where it's the best FB and the best LT in the games fault

meanwhile, in the BP thread, we can see BP shaking a defender, and keeping eyes downfield and throwing it accurate vs Tampa
we can see Fields shaking two defenders, he was dead to rights, rolling left, getting the D to flow his way, then throwing back across field, TD Pettis

BP didn't shake philly

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Lol Trey fans are sad. Feel sorry for you guys

I'm a 49ers fan, not a Trey fan. I'm excited for what he, *might* bring to this team.
I feel sorry for those stuck in a Team Brock / Team Trey fantasy octogon.

I don't care about Trey just like I didn't care about Brock before he did anything. It's his fans.

I know you guys don't go off the hinges here because posters will remember and call you out, but dive into the large sm platforms and you got Trey fans losing their minds saying things like they're done with this organization because they are mean to Trey lol

I never chose a side, I just understand the situation. Only one guy can play, and Brock is clearly the guy for the job. With Trey in year 3 and losing his spot (and not being the clear guy over Darnold this offseason), he is done here. Doesn't mean I've chose sides or hate Trey, it's just the reality of the situation. It's Trey fans that can't accept reality that have ruined this offseason. Trey fans are currently the worst fans in all of sports imo

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
This may be the wildest thread I've ever seen on this board, and I've been here since 2006.

The key word and common theme here is "NOTHING"

-I have nothing against Lance--because there is nothing to have against him
-What are Lance defenders defending? Nothing. He has nothing to defend (if someone is diving into joint practices against the Vikings; then let me introduce you to Kory Sheets or the millions of other players who look good in camp or preseason)

It's in-game experience and in-game results. I saw something about how poor practice players are poor game performers...that's simply not true. JG was a much better in-gamer than practice player.

We can talk potential and intangibles all we want...but there are thousands of guys who had those and it didn't pan out. That's not to say Lance faces the same fate by any means either...because again, we have nothing that concretely indicates that. But when your big opportunity was last year and another guy steps in and takes your job and wins all his games (minus philly injury), the locker room, the national media, and the coaching staff, it's that much more difficult and has to be very disheartening for a young kid who's hurt and envisions himself in that spot.

It's a steep uphill race and last year he twisted his ankle at the starting line--it's a brutal business. Lance admitted to having some mental health challenges related to his foray in the league thus far and good on him for the honesty and for getting through them.

Heck, Purdy's injury was a big blow to a young guy too. But the timing of Purdy's and his extent of college experience were wildly different than Trey.

They're all QBs on the team, I don't see how you don't root for all of em to do well. But I also don't see how anyone can adamantly make declarations about how good Trey Lance will be when there is nothing substantiative to base that off of.

Go Niners. End rant.

Well said.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Magical thinking is this when a person believes thoughts, specific words, emotions or rituals can influence the external world, an example is the toxic positivity myth of ''The Secret' which believes in thinking good outcomes into existence.

What you're trying to accuse me of is 'motivated reasoning' which is using bias to construct and evaluate arguments to support a preferred conclusion.

The media driven narrative of Purdy being the week 1 starter can be considered magical thinking as it ignores the possibility of a setback or delay in Purdy's recovery, as well as ignores that Shanahan will be making the decision, not Kittle, Lynch, pundits, or fans.

First off, BP as QB1, isn't media driven. It's reality driven if you followed 2022 as we all did. It's also KS and JLs outright statement, that's he's earned it.

Everything I have seen, is QB1, with the if healthy caveat. I would, and have been, going a step further, and saying not only if healthy, but he's got to have enough time being healthy, to work with the ones, and be in game shape. Being able to practice in mid Aug is a tight turnaround for an early Sept week 1. That's about three weeks to cram in an offseason that most other QBs have months to prep for. Trust me, I get the concern. I hear he is trending toward QB1 week 1, based on his timeline. I would say it's a 50/50, which is better than I would have said, a month or two ago.

I hear you. I'm just pushing back against the false narrative that Lance has no chance at starting, that he's buried at QB3 no matter what he does.

We all know that nothing is set in stone, especially when it comes to our QBs' health.

Just because Lance may get another chance to start, it doesn't mean that he won't get injured or play himself out of the job.

But the notion that he's some raw prospect not capable of leading this team is false given that he's been in this system 3 years now and has shown that he can play well on this level.

On your last sentence, I don't think the notion is true or false. It's TBD.

I don't think he's shown he can play well on this level yet. Far from it. This was the Martz critique. He showed Martz that he's light years away from playing well at this level, that was the last full game he played, the one Martz was basing his determination on.

Mike Martz ranted about TL on a clip in which he was disheveled and most likely drunk. I don't think he was in a good place to make credible and objective observations about a young QB from afar.

And Lance looked like a starter during the Chicago game. Dif the team win? No, they lost for a number of reasons.

Lance had the interception, missed Deebo on the slant route that would have been a TD, and missed wildly on three screen passes, but he also made elite throws, something that he's done in every game he's played in on the NFL level.

The Niners outgained the Bears 331 yards to 204 yards and converted 8 of 17 third down plays. The game got away from Trey and the team because:

. 12 penalties

. Deebo's red zone fumble

. Talanoa Hufanga's blown coverage on two tds

. offensive line getting manhandled

. a missed block by Juszczyk that led to an early and overthrown pass to Kroft,

. Aiyuk pushing off on a nice 3rd pass from Trey

. torrential rain that prevented the team from rallying late.

Just a bad game all around, but the team rebounded, unfortunately Lance didn't get a chance to because of the injury.

But you can even see the next week that of his three passes thrown against Seattle. Two were precise and one was a throwaway on an incoming blitz.

He'll get his chance again this training camp and preseason, and regular season too if Purdy isn't ready to go week 1.

And off the rails we go.. I haven't heard the missed TD was Juice's fault, that's a new one for me

You can check it out for yourself at the 0:24 mark. Juice doesn't block the defender but continues on his route, resulting in Trey throwing early.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eR04MfS-FQA&pp=ygUedHJleSBsYW5jZSBjaGljYWdvIGV2ZXJ5IHRocm93

you call this a missed block in one post, and him running a route in another post.. which is it?

Both, it seems like the play design called for him to run a route with the intention of taking a defender with him, but since the defender was already in the backfield he should have blocked.

Just poor execution.

yeah juice should have known that he is the only guy in between the defender and the QB

The TL thread, where it's the best FB and the best LT in the games fault

meanwhile, in the BP thread, we can see BP shaking a defender, and keeping eyes downfield and throwing it accurate vs Tampa
we can see Fields shaking two defenders, he was dead to rights, rolling left, getting the D to flow his way, then throwing back across field, TD Pettis

BP didn't shake philly

Lol Trey fans are sad. Feel sorry for you guys

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I'm a 49ers fan, not a Trey fan. I'm excited for what he, *might* bring to this team.
I feel sorry for those stuck in a Team Brock / Team Trey fantasy octogon.

I don't care about Trey just like I didn't care about Brock before he did anything. It's his fans.

I know you guys don't go off the hinges here because posters will remember and call you out, but dive into the large sm platforms and you got Trey fans losing their minds saying things like they're done with this organization because they are mean to Trey lol

I never chose a side, I just understand the situation. Only one guy can play, and Brock is clearly the guy for the job. With Trey in year 3 and losing his spot (and not being the clear guy over Darnold this offseason), he is done here. Doesn't mean I've chose sides or hate Trey, it's just the reality of the situation. It's Trey fans that can't accept reality that have ruined this offseason. Trey fans are currently the worst fans in all of sports imo

Typical Trey fan. Stop crying

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Magical thinking is this when a person believes thoughts, specific words, emotions or rituals can influence the external world, an example is the toxic positivity myth of ''The Secret' which believes in thinking good outcomes into existence.

What you're trying to accuse me of is 'motivated reasoning' which is using bias to construct and evaluate arguments to support a preferred conclusion.

The media driven narrative of Purdy being the week 1 starter can be considered magical thinking as it ignores the possibility of a setback or delay in Purdy's recovery, as well as ignores that Shanahan will be making the decision, not Kittle, Lynch, pundits, or fans.

First off, BP as QB1, isn't media driven. It's reality driven if you followed 2022 as we all did. It's also KS and JLs outright statement, that's he's earned it.

Everything I have seen, is QB1, with the if healthy caveat. I would, and have been, going a step further, and saying not only if healthy, but he's got to have enough time being healthy, to work with the ones, and be in game shape. Being able to practice in mid Aug is a tight turnaround for an early Sept week 1. That's about three weeks to cram in an offseason that most other QBs have months to prep for. Trust me, I get the concern. I hear he is trending toward QB1 week 1, based on his timeline. I would say it's a 50/50, which is better than I would have said, a month or two ago.

I hear you. I'm just pushing back against the false narrative that Lance has no chance at starting, that he's buried at QB3 no matter what he does.

We all know that nothing is set in stone, especially when it comes to our QBs' health.

Just because Lance may get another chance to start, it doesn't mean that he won't get injured or play himself out of the job.

But the notion that he's some raw prospect not capable of leading this team is false given that he's been in this system 3 years now and has shown that he can play well on this level.

On your last sentence, I don't think the notion is true or false. It's TBD.

I don't think he's shown he can play well on this level yet. Far from it. This was the Martz critique. He showed Martz that he's light years away from playing well at this level, that was the last full game he played, the one Martz was basing his determination on.

Mike Martz ranted about TL on a clip in which he was disheveled and most likely drunk. I don't think he was in a good place to make credible and objective observations about a young QB from afar.

And Lance looked like a starter during the Chicago game. Dif the team win? No, they lost for a number of reasons.

Lance had the interception, missed Deebo on the slant route that would have been a TD, and missed wildly on three screen passes, but he also made elite throws, something that he's done in every game he's played in on the NFL level.

The Niners outgained the Bears 331 yards to 204 yards and converted 8 of 17 third down plays. The game got away from Trey and the team because:

. 12 penalties

. Deebo's red zone fumble

. Talanoa Hufanga's blown coverage on two tds

. offensive line getting manhandled

. a missed block by Juszczyk that led to an early and overthrown pass to Kroft,

. Aiyuk pushing off on a nice 3rd pass from Trey

. torrential rain that prevented the team from rallying late.

Just a bad game all around, but the team rebounded, unfortunately Lance didn't get a chance to because of the injury.

But you can even see the next week that of his three passes thrown against Seattle. Two were precise and one was a throwaway on an incoming blitz.

He'll get his chance again this training camp and preseason, and regular season too if Purdy isn't ready to go week 1.

And off the rails we go.. I haven't heard the missed TD was Juice's fault, that's a new one for me

You can check it out for yourself at the 0:24 mark. Juice doesn't block the defender but continues on his route, resulting in Trey throwing early.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eR04MfS-FQA&pp=ygUedHJleSBsYW5jZSBjaGljYWdvIGV2ZXJ5IHRocm93

you call this a missed block in one post, and him running a route in another post.. which is it?

Both, it seems like the play design called for him to run a route with the intention of taking a defender with him, but since the defender was already in the backfield he should have blocked.

Just poor execution.

yeah juice should have known that he is the only guy in between the defender and the QB

The TL thread, where it's the best FB and the best LT in the games fault

meanwhile, in the BP thread, we can see BP shaking a defender, and keeping eyes downfield and throwing it accurate vs Tampa
we can see Fields shaking two defenders, he was dead to rights, rolling left, getting the D to flow his way, then throwing back across field, TD Pettis

BP didn't shake philly

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Lol Trey fans are sad. Feel sorry for you guys

whats sad is posters taking sides and would want our QBs to fail.

you guys haven't learned your lessons

Another "neutral" Trey fan. We see right through you

no, i'm a 49er fan. Why are you so scared of Trey lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Magical thinking is this when a person believes thoughts, specific words, emotions or rituals can influence the external world, an example is the toxic positivity myth of ''The Secret' which believes in thinking good outcomes into existence.

What you're trying to accuse me of is 'motivated reasoning' which is using bias to construct and evaluate arguments to support a preferred conclusion.

The media driven narrative of Purdy being the week 1 starter can be considered magical thinking as it ignores the possibility of a setback or delay in Purdy's recovery, as well as ignores that Shanahan will be making the decision, not Kittle, Lynch, pundits, or fans.

First off, BP as QB1, isn't media driven. It's reality driven if you followed 2022 as we all did. It's also KS and JLs outright statement, that's he's earned it.

Everything I have seen, is QB1, with the if healthy caveat. I would, and have been, going a step further, and saying not only if healthy, but he's got to have enough time being healthy, to work with the ones, and be in game shape. Being able to practice in mid Aug is a tight turnaround for an early Sept week 1. That's about three weeks to cram in an offseason that most other QBs have months to prep for. Trust me, I get the concern. I hear he is trending toward QB1 week 1, based on his timeline. I would say it's a 50/50, which is better than I would have said, a month or two ago.

I hear you. I'm just pushing back against the false narrative that Lance has no chance at starting, that he's buried at QB3 no matter what he does.

We all know that nothing is set in stone, especially when it comes to our QBs' health.

Just because Lance may get another chance to start, it doesn't mean that he won't get injured or play himself out of the job.

But the notion that he's some raw prospect not capable of leading this team is false given that he's been in this system 3 years now and has shown that he can play well on this level.

On your last sentence, I don't think the notion is true or false. It's TBD.

I don't think he's shown he can play well on this level yet. Far from it. This was the Martz critique. He showed Martz that he's light years away from playing well at this level, that was the last full game he played, the one Martz was basing his determination on.

Mike Martz ranted about TL on a clip in which he was disheveled and most likely drunk. I don't think he was in a good place to make credible and objective observations about a young QB from afar.

And Lance looked like a starter during the Chicago game. Dif the team win? No, they lost for a number of reasons.

Lance had the interception, missed Deebo on the slant route that would have been a TD, and missed wildly on three screen passes, but he also made elite throws, something that he's done in every game he's played in on the NFL level.

The Niners outgained the Bears 331 yards to 204 yards and converted 8 of 17 third down plays. The game got away from Trey and the team because:

. 12 penalties

. Deebo's red zone fumble

. Talanoa Hufanga's blown coverage on two tds

. offensive line getting manhandled

. a missed block by Juszczyk that led to an early and overthrown pass to Kroft,

. Aiyuk pushing off on a nice 3rd pass from Trey

. torrential rain that prevented the team from rallying late.

Just a bad game all around, but the team rebounded, unfortunately Lance didn't get a chance to because of the injury.

But you can even see the next week that of his three passes thrown against Seattle. Two were precise and one was a throwaway on an incoming blitz.

He'll get his chance again this training camp and preseason, and regular season too if Purdy isn't ready to go week 1.

And off the rails we go.. I haven't heard the missed TD was Juice's fault, that's a new one for me

You can check it out for yourself at the 0:24 mark. Juice doesn't block the defender but continues on his route, resulting in Trey throwing early.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eR04MfS-FQA&pp=ygUedHJleSBsYW5jZSBjaGljYWdvIGV2ZXJ5IHRocm93

you call this a missed block in one post, and him running a route in another post.. which is it?

Both, it seems like the play design called for him to run a route with the intention of taking a defender with him, but since the defender was already in the backfield he should have blocked.

Just poor execution.

yeah juice should have known that he is the only guy in between the defender and the QB

The TL thread, where it's the best FB and the best LT in the games fault

meanwhile, in the BP thread, we can see BP shaking a defender, and keeping eyes downfield and throwing it accurate vs Tampa
we can see Fields shaking two defenders, he was dead to rights, rolling left, getting the D to flow his way, then throwing back across field, TD Pettis

BP didn't shake philly

Lol Trey fans are sad. Feel sorry for you guys

+ Show all quotes whats sad is posters taking sides and would want our QBs to fail.

you guys haven't learned your lessons

Another "neutral" Trey fan. We see right through you

no, i'm a 49er fan. Why are you so scared of Trey lol

So scared

By far the best outcome will be if both Purdy and Lance emerge as top level QBs. That's the outcome I'm hoping for. Gives us security and options. They both look like they could handle the situation too.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SinceXVI:
Magical thinking is this when a person believes thoughts, specific words, emotions or rituals can influence the external world, an example is the toxic positivity myth of ''The Secret' which believes in thinking good outcomes into existence.

What you're trying to accuse me of is 'motivated reasoning' which is using bias to construct and evaluate arguments to support a preferred conclusion.

The media driven narrative of Purdy being the week 1 starter can be considered magical thinking as it ignores the possibility of a setback or delay in Purdy's recovery, as well as ignores that Shanahan will be making the decision, not Kittle, Lynch, pundits, or fans.

First off, BP as QB1, isn't media driven. It's reality driven if you followed 2022 as we all did. It's also KS and JLs outright statement, that's he's earned it.

Everything I have seen, is QB1, with the if healthy caveat. I would, and have been, going a step further, and saying not only if healthy, but he's got to have enough time being healthy, to work with the ones, and be in game shape. Being able to practice in mid Aug is a tight turnaround for an early Sept week 1. That's about three weeks to cram in an offseason that most other QBs have months to prep for. Trust me, I get the concern. I hear he is trending toward QB1 week 1, based on his timeline. I would say it's a 50/50, which is better than I would have said, a month or two ago.

I hear you. I'm just pushing back against the false narrative that Lance has no chance at starting, that he's buried at QB3 no matter what he does.

We all know that nothing is set in stone, especially when it comes to our QBs' health.

Just because Lance may get another chance to start, it doesn't mean that he won't get injured or play himself out of the job.

But the notion that he's some raw prospect not capable of leading this team is false given that he's been in this system 3 years now and has shown that he can play well on this level.

On your last sentence, I don't think the notion is true or false. It's TBD.

I don't think he's shown he can play well on this level yet. Far from it. This was the Martz critique. He showed Martz that he's light years away from playing well at this level, that was the last full game he played, the one Martz was basing his determination on.

Mike Martz ranted about TL on a clip in which he was disheveled and most likely drunk. I don't think he was in a good place to make credible and objective observations about a young QB from afar.

And Lance looked like a starter during the Chicago game. Dif the team win? No, they lost for a number of reasons.

Lance had the interception, missed Deebo on the slant route that would have been a TD, and missed wildly on three screen passes, but he also made elite throws, something that he's done in every game he's played in on the NFL level.

The Niners outgained the Bears 331 yards to 204 yards and converted 8 of 17 third down plays. The game got away from Trey and the team because:

. 12 penalties

. Deebo's red zone fumble

. Talanoa Hufanga's blown coverage on two tds

. offensive line getting manhandled

. a missed block by Juszczyk that led to an early and overthrown pass to Kroft,

. Aiyuk pushing off on a nice 3rd pass from Trey

. torrential rain that prevented the team from rallying late.

Just a bad game all around, but the team rebounded, unfortunately Lance didn't get a chance to because of the injury.

But you can even see the next week that of his three passes thrown against Seattle. Two were precise and one was a throwaway on an incoming blitz.

He'll get his chance again this training camp and preseason, and regular season too if Purdy isn't ready to go week 1.

And off the rails we go.. I haven't heard the missed TD was Juice's fault, that's a new one for me

You can check it out for yourself at the 0:24 mark. Juice doesn't block the defender but continues on his route, resulting in Trey throwing early.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eR04MfS-FQA&pp=ygUedHJleSBsYW5jZSBjaGljYWdvIGV2ZXJ5IHRocm93

you call this a missed block in one post, and him running a route in another post.. which is it?

Both, it seems like the play design called for him to run a route with the intention of taking a defender with him, but since the defender was already in the backfield he should have blocked.

Just poor execution.

yeah juice should have known that he is the only guy in between the defender and the QB

The TL thread, where it's the best FB and the best LT in the games fault

meanwhile, in the BP thread, we can see BP shaking a defender, and keeping eyes downfield and throwing it accurate vs Tampa
we can see Fields shaking two defenders, he was dead to rights, rolling left, getting the D to flow his way, then throwing back across field, TD Pettis

BP didn't shake philly

Lol Trey fans are sad. Feel sorry for you guys

I'm a 49ers fan, not a Trey fan. I'm excited for what he, *might* bring to this team.
I feel sorry for those stuck in a Team Brock / Team Trey fantasy octogon.

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I don't care about Trey just like I didn't care about Brock before he did anything. It's his fans.

I know you guys don't go off the hinges here because posters will remember and call you out, but dive into the large sm platforms and you got Trey fans losing their minds saying things like they're done with this organization because they are mean to Trey lol

I never chose a side, I just understand the situation. Only one guy can play, and Brock is clearly the guy for the job. With Trey in year 3 and losing his spot (and not being the clear guy over Darnold this offseason), he is done here. Doesn't mean I've chose sides or hate Trey, it's just the reality of the situation. It's Trey fans that can't accept reality that have ruined this offseason. Trey fans are currently the worst fans in all of sports imo

Typical Trey fan. Stop crying

Go back to the Alex Smith thread already.

Originally posted by joeknows:
By far the best outcome will be if both Purdy and Lance emerge as top level QBs. That's the outcome I'm hoping for. Gives us security and options. They both look like they could handle the situation too.

Same, the outcome we should all be hoping for. All this bickering is fun but useless. Go Niners, Lance and Purdy!

Originally posted by 9erguy:

Originally posted by joeknows:
By far the best outcome will be if both Purdy and Lance emerge as top level QBs. That's the outcome I'm hoping for. Gives us security and options. They both look like they could handle the situation too.

Same, the outcome we should all be hoping for. All this bickering is fun but useless. Go Niners, Lance and Purdy!

Nope you gotta pick a side like some of these other guys in here.

Originally posted by 9erguy:

Originally posted by joeknows:
By far the best outcome will be if both Purdy and Lance emerge as top level QBs. That's the outcome I'm hoping for. Gives us security and options. They both look like they could handle the situation too.

Same, the outcome we should all be hoping for. All this bickering is fun but useless. Go Niners, Lance and Purdy!

Me too. If somehow both could emerge, we will be set and can come up in a trade after the 2024 season.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Nope you gotta pick a side like some of these other guys in here.

Its sad and extremely pathetic.

This thread is the craziest place . I know it's the quiet time in the year and there's nothing to talk about but god damn there are thousands of pages on the exact same s**t.
Here are the two camps.
Camp 1: I don't love him, I don't hate him, BUT I think he might be good if he gets some reps.

Camp 2: I don't love him. I don't hate him, BUT I think I've seen enough and I don't think he is going to be good.
I would say both opinions are valid enough. maybe since there is nothing to talk about this time of year take a break and say nothing. How about dust the Doritos crumbs off your gut, get up and take a walk or a shower, Jerkoff with your left hand, anything just give this subject a rest for a minute or two.

sorry for the rant, I clicked on this thread on accident, I knew better

Originally posted by Andra:
This thread is the craziest place . I know it's the quiet time in the year and there's nothing to talk about but god damn there are thousands of pages on the exact same s**t.
Here are the two camps.
Camp 1: I don't love him, I don't hate him, BUT I think he might be good if he gets some reps.

Camp 2: I don't love him. I don't hate him, BUT I think I've seen enough and I don't think he is going to be good.
I would say both opinions are valid enough. maybe since there is nothing to talk about this time of year take a break and say nothing. How about dust the Doritos crumbs off your gut, get up and take a walk or a shower, Jerkoff with your left hand, anything just give this subject a rest for a minute or two.

sorry for the rant, I clicked on this thread on accident, I knew better

Out of the "thousands of pages" those are the 1st 2 camps you come up with?

Best scenario is we have Joe Young and Steve Montana situation.

Originally posted by Alfienator:
Best scenario is we have Joe Young and Steve Montana situation.

I get your meaning. Now if only any of these guys were as good as those two.