Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
9-6 record, 98.7 rated, led NFL in yds / comp, and net yds gained per pass attempt

he was good, remember he had to lead a game tying drive length of field in like 90 secs just for us to have that postseason run of beating DAL and GB
imagine if TL goes 9-6, 98.7 rated, leds the NFL in several stat categories.. we would be dancing in the streets if TL does a fraction of that in year 3

Trey had a hundred rating in his one game and it's criticized for not being very good (honestly he wasn't great but played on Jimmys level that game).

He had a great final drive against the Rams. He was also bad the first half of the game. Again Deebo being Deebo got us back in the game. If not for Deebo we don't make the playoffs and it's not close

If Trey would've done that as a rookie it's a different conversation BECAUSE he's a rookie.

I am on record TL played well vs HOU. The debate on that game was ppl trying to puff up or blow smoke about the HOU D. They were 31st. I disagreed that they were a good or near top 10 pass D, that's not my opinion. We don't make postseason in 2021 without JG is my suspicion. Just look at how 2020 or 2018 played out.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I am on record TL played well vs HOU. The debate on that game was ppl trying to puff up or blow smoke about the HOU D. They were 31st. I disagreed that they were a good or near top 10 pass D, that's not my opinion. We don't make postseason in 2021 without JG is my suspicion. Just look at how 2020 or 2018 played out.

They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I am on record TL played well vs HOU. The debate on that game was ppl trying to puff up or blow smoke about the HOU D. They were 31st. I disagreed that they were a good or near top 10 pass D, that's not my opinion. We don't make postseason in 2021 without JG is my suspicion. Just look at how 2020 or 2018 played out.

They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

lol Purdy in 2021, now you are blowing smoke. Trey coulda woulda shoulda.. only fact we know, is for whatever reason, KS set the chart with TL at QB2. I suspect, if TL was doing laps around JG, or even on the level of JG and ready emotionally to be QB1, he would have. When you invest 3 ones, you want to play the guy. This is not a knock on TL, but KS having JG as QB1 all year, tells me KS felt JG was best fit for the job, or gave the team the best chance to win. This isn't to say TL couldn't have won games, it's to say KS bet on JG that year, over TL that year, and that should be telling of how he felt it would have played out.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

Been saying this for a couple years now.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

But we didn't draft him until 2022. Might as well say, if only we had Joe Montana in 2021. Let's stick within the boundaries of reality.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

Been saying this for a couple years now.

I like how in your posts he's on the JG level in 2021, yet in reality he's not separating from newly acquired Sam Darnold in year 3

bit of a disconnect

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
lol Purdy in 2021, now you are blowing smoke. Trey coulda woulda shoulda.. only fact we know, is for whatever reason, KS set the chart with TL at QB2. I suspect, if TL was doing laps around JG, or even on the level of JG and ready emotionally to be QB1, he would have. When you invest 3 ones, you want to play the guy. This is not a knock on TL, but KS having JG as QB1 all year, tells me KS felt JG was best fit for the job, or gave the team the best chance to win. This isn't to say TL couldn't have won games, it's to say KS bet on JG that year, over TL that year, and that should be telling of how he felt it would have played out.

And in hindsight that was a mistake imo. You can pretend all you want that 2021 was a great season but in terms of where we are now it would've been better to have known what Trey is.

If Jimmy never gets hurt we never know what we have in Brock and we could've foolishly resigned him like many on here wanted. That would've been a mistake too. We knew what we had with Jimmy. We need to know what these young guys bring. If that means a step back to go forward so be it.

I want to build another dynstay not be the Rams.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I like how in your posts he's on the JG level in 2021, yet in reality he's not separating from newly acquired Sam Darnold in year 3

bit of a disconnect

He could've been based on the one game sample. We just don't know either way and never will.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I like how in your posts he's on the JG level in 2021, yet in reality he's not separating from newly acquired Sam Darnold in year 3

bit of a disconnect

He could've been based on the one game sample. We just don't know either way and never will.

KS got a good look at both, all summer, and started JG. That tells me something. KS went out and landed Sam day one of FA, that tells me something as well. Let's focus less on the hypothetical, coulda woulda shoulda, and more on what we know.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

Been saying this for a couple years now.

I like how in your posts he's on the JG level in 2021, yet in reality he's not separating from newly acquired Sam Darnold in year 3

bit of a disconnect

reality ?

you have no idea what is going on at 49er HQ

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
KS got a good look at both, all summer, and started JG. That tells me something. KS went out and landed Sam day one of FA, that tells me something as well. Let's focus less on the hypothetical, coulda woulda shoulda, and more on what we know.

Says the guy constantly talking about how the 9ers lost SuperBowls because they didn't have first round picks.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

Been saying this for a couple years now.

I like how in your posts he's on the JG level in 2021, yet in reality he's not separating from newly acquired Sam Darnold in year 3

bit of a disconnect

reality ?

you have no idea what is going on at 49er HQ

I'm just down the road from HQ I have some idea mr att don't mock me
What did fowler, breer and schefter all say in like the past week?
do we deny a comp here? and the comp is TL and Darnold. they all say, advantage Darnold, right?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
They played out that way because of Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard. Based on what I saw vs Houston Trey COULDVE played to a level consistent to what Jimmy did with the surrounding cast and Deebo playing out his mind.

Hard to really know how hurt Trey was so can't really say how effective he could've been. I just don't think Jimmy played at a level he couldn't have approximated.

Had we had Purdy in 2021 the 9ers win the SuperBowl.

Been saying this for a couple years now.

I like how in your posts he's on the JG level in 2021, yet in reality he's not separating from newly acquired Sam Darnold in year 3

bit of a disconnect

Everyone is guessing about Darnold vs. Lance. No one knows anything for sure other than our coaches. So yeah, the disconnect for me is not believing random national reporters who dont know their ass from their elbow in terms of what is actually going on with our team.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
KS got a good look at both, all summer, and started JG. That tells me something. KS went out and landed Sam day one of FA, that tells me something as well. Let's focus less on the hypothetical, coulda woulda shoulda, and more on what we know.

This isnt "telling you" anything. You are making assumptions based on what you think you know.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Everyone is guessing about Darnold vs. Lance. No one knows anything for sure other than our coaches. So yeah, the disconnect for me is not believing random national reporters who dont know their ass from their elbow in terms of what is actually going on with our team.

Exactly


No fan of his football analysis but he's more linked to the 9er insiders than any national reporter. So what they say carries little weight.