Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by K1ngAsD3rek:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Jimmy Is the starter to begin with, I don't see Kyle benching him for Trey at any point of the season unless Jimmy Is struggling/fails to stay healthy. Who ever starts day 1 will most likely play out the entire season.

Tend to agree with this. I think Lance has quite a lot to learn. That being said, I guess there is a reasonable chance of Garoppolo picking up an injury.

This. We have a perfect scenario so there's absolutely zero reason to rush Trey. Let Trey take the Mahomes route and hopefully Jimmy can net us some capital

This scenario is probably the one that is going to end up happening.

It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Excellent and rational post

^^^Agreed. I just hope that when the season starts and Jimmy is our QB, that the loud minority of those beating the drum for Trey don't end up basket cases…and come down with PTSD because Trey isn't starting. It is amazing how the vocal few have convinced themselves that Trey is going to start and literally tear up the NFL. Just a suggestion, but those pining for Trey to be our starter from day 1, please pull for JG to do well instead of trashing him. If he deserves to start….and i think he will, we ALL need to be behind him.

Likewise, it Trey starts, i hope ALL get behind him. Like K1ng and Blake fever above, i also am concerned about Trey and his lack of PT except for one yr at NDSU. Somehow, that just doesn't seem to translate into a day one starter in the NFL, when you have a QB who is 23-8 (or whatever it is) as a starter.

As mentioned earlier, if Trey is the better QB and by a wide margin, that will be clear to everyone. But if as i suspect, Jimmy is the better Qb, it would be disappointing if fans don't get behind him 100%. I, too , am anxious to see Trey play. But i am way more interested in taking the talent we have on the team at present, and winning it all…and my guess is JG is better positioned to do that based on NFL playing time, and working in Kyle's system.

It would be a shame if fans didn't support the guy we have out on the field as QB. Everyone's goal is to win the SB this yr. Experience is probably going to be the determining factor. Plus , it is to the advantage of us all for JG to have a career yr here…and not to get injured. If that happens….we are in great shape. Best situation of all 32 teams in the NFL at QB this yr.

Just curious if anyone knows if Vegas has odds posted for when Trey takes over or how many games Jimmy will play this season. They have all kinds of crazy bets there.

'Hopefully Jimmy plays well so we can net some better draft capital for him'
No, hopefully Jimmy plays well so we can go WIN a freaking Super Bowl while our man Trey can spend a year in a great organization being prepared mentally and physically for a great career in the NFL when his time eventually comes.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Just curious if anyone knows if Vegas has odds posted for when Trey takes over or how many games Jimmy will play this season. They have all kinds of crazy bets there.

I know he has pretty high odds to win OROTY so they must be thinking he starts fairly early.

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Just curious if anyone knows if Vegas has odds posted for when Trey takes over or how many games Jimmy will play this season. They have all kinds of crazy bets there.

I know he has pretty high odds to win OROTY so they must be thinking he starts fairly early.

Or just take peoples money

Originally posted by English:
Tend to agree with this. I think Lance has quite a lot to learn. That being said, I guess there is a reasonable chance of Garoppolo picking up an injury.

What you guys think about the interceptions? There's also a reasonable chance that he still throws picks at essentially a 50% rate, 1:1. Even during his 2017 run that everyone worships, 7 tds 5 ints. Personally, I think Kyle is over his boneheaded turnovers and he will have a shorter leash if this continues early in the season.

2017: 7tds 5ints
2018: 5tds 3ints
2019: 27tds 13ints
2020: 7tds 5ints

Lance is talked about as the opposite of this and takes care of the football as evidenced by his one college career interception in the lone 2020 game. We all know he didn't throw any in 2019.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Just curious if anyone knows if Vegas has odds posted for when Trey takes over or how many games Jimmy will play this season. They have all kinds of crazy bets there.

I know he has pretty high odds to win OROTY so they must be thinking he starts fairly early.

Or just take peoples money

Glad youre doubting one of our own players. Shows your true colors

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Just curious if anyone knows if Vegas has odds posted for when Trey takes over or how many games Jimmy will play this season. They have all kinds of crazy bets there.

I know he has pretty high odds to win OROTY so they must be thinking he starts fairly early.

Or just take peoples money

Glad youre doubting one of our own players. Shows your true colors

Lol oh right because that's really what I said. He may not get that much playing time to win ROY, does that mean he's not good? It doesn't

how about the Mac Jones great odds on being drafted by the 49ers, how that work out?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Based on this thread so far, you'd think we just watched Trey toss 6 TDs and throw for 400 yds in his first pre-season game. Even then, I'd caution you that it's just pre-season and it doesn't mean anything.

But so far all this hype is coming from some cell phone video of the guy throwing against air. This is how disappointment starts. This is how people start calling player's busts and calling for coaches to be fired. Trey just played one real game in two years and looked VERY MEDIOCRE in that one he did play.

Calm down, guys.

Based on this thread you'd think Jimmy was some elite QB that couldn't possibly get beat out by a rookie…and the ideal way to make a player get better is for him to sit the bench

yeah if you did your research on that game you'd have a better idea of what was going on…last I saw he actually won that game. I was told winning is all that matters 🤔

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/148139-jerry-rice-discusses-49ers-situation-expectations-brandon-aiyuk/

"I don't know what the situation is going to be, how competitive it's going to be, or if they're going to let Trey Lance sit for a little while where he can gain all that knowledge and then get ready to take on that starting job."

NY, can you at least quit repeating over and over over and over and over that "Trey won't learn anything sitting on the bench" now and put that part to bed…

On when Trey starts…
I would think he will start when Kyle decides, not??
However, If they are winning games, even by a point or two, I really don't see a QB change to an unknown in the hopes that they beat a team by more points like you and a some others are insisting..
yes, if tthey are winning, but not by enough points for you all we should still switch QB's…???
yea that'd be genius coaching and not tear a locker room apart… lol

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:
https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/148139-jerry-rice-discusses-49ers-situation-expectations-brandon-aiyuk/

"I don't know what the situation is going to be, how competitive it's going to be, or if they're going to let Trey Lance sit for a little while where he can gain all that knowledge and then get ready to take on that starting job."

NY, can you at least quit repeating over and over over and over and over that "Trey won't learn anything sitting on the bench" now and put that part to bed…

On when Trey starts…
I would think he will start when Kyle decides, not??
However, If they are winning games, even by a point or two, I really don't see a QB change to an unknown in the hopes that they beat a team by more points like you and a some others are insisting..
yes, if tthey are winning, but not by enough points for you all we should still switch QB's…???
yea that'd be genius coaching and not tear a locker room apart… lol

Or maybe some fans are super excited that we may finally have an elite QB on the team for the first time in twenty years. That makes it real easy for me to pull for the kid to start ASAP. Nobody is suggesting he start at the expense of the tam winning games.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
Based on this thread so far, you'd think we just watched Trey toss 6 TDs and throw for 400 yds in his first pre-season game. Even then, I'd caution you that it's just pre-season and it doesn't mean anything.

But so far all this hype is coming from some cell phone video of the guy throwing against air. This is how disappointment starts. This is how people start calling player's busts and calling for coaches to be fired. Trey just played one real game in two years and looked VERY MEDIOCRE in that one he did play.

Calm down, guys.

Based on this thread you'd think Jimmy was some elite QB that couldn't possibly get beat out by a rookie…and the ideal way to make a player get better is for him to sit the bench

yeah if you did your research on that game you'd have a better idea of what was going on…last I saw he actually won that game. I was told winning is all that matters 🤔

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/148139-jerry-rice-discusses-49ers-situation-expectations-brandon-aiyuk/

"I don't know what the situation is going to be, how competitive it's going to be, or if they're going to let Trey Lance sit for a little while where he can gain all that knowledge and then get ready to take on that starting job."

NY, can you at least quit repeating over and over over and over and over that "Trey won't learn anything sitting on the bench" now and put that part to bed…

On when Trey starts…
I would think he will start when Kyle decides, not??
However, If they are winning games, even by a point or two, I really don't see a QB change to an unknown in the hopes that they beat a team by more points like you and a some others are insisting..
yes, if tthey are winning, but not by enough points for you all we should still switch QB's…???
yea that'd be genius coaching and not tear a locker room apart… lol

If we do start Jimmy to begin the season and the offense is underperforming then we should consider making a change regardless of the team's record. The goal is to win the Super Bowl and we have not had a passing offense that looks capable of winning a Super Bowl with Jimmy at QB. If it doesn't look like that has changed, what is the point of sticking with him? His play has never been good enough for him to be considered untouchable as the starter.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
^^^Agreed. I just hope that when the season starts and Jimmy is our QB, that the loud minority of those beating the drum for Trey don't end up basket cases…and come down with PTSD because Trey isn't starting. It is amazing how the vocal few have convinced themselves that Trey is going to start and literally tear up the NFL. Just a suggestion, but those pining for Trey to be our starter from day 1, please pull for JG to do well instead of trashing him. If he deserves to start….and i think he will, we ALL need to be behind him.

Likewise, it Trey starts, i hope ALL get behind him. Like K1ng and Blake fever above, i also am concerned about Trey and his lack of PT except for one yr at NDSU. Somehow, that just doesn't seem to translate into a day one starter in the NFL, when you have a QB who is 23-8 (or whatever it is) as a starter.

As mentioned earlier, if Trey is the better QB and by a wide margin, that will be clear to everyone. But if as i suspect, Jimmy is the better Qb, it would be disappointing if fans don't get behind him 100%. I, too , am anxious to see Trey play. But i am way more interested in taking the talent we have on the team at present, and winning it all…and my guess is JG is better positioned to do that based on NFL playing time, and working in Kyle's system.

It would be a shame if fans didn't support the guy we have out on the field as QB. Everyone's goal is to win the SB this yr. Experience is probably going to be the determining factor. Plus , it is to the advantage of us all for JG to have a career yr here…and not to get injured. If that happens….we are in great shape. Best situation of all 32 teams in the NFL at QB this yr.

Jimmy will probably start the year. Maybe even play the whole year. Trey may struggle at first. The NFL is so new to him. He hasn't played in a while. The level of competition is a huge step up.

That said Trey has a huge upside over time and I think he can be great. I hope for the best for him. If he does reach his potential we will be in great shape.