Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
^^^Agreed. I just hope that when the season starts and Jimmy is our QB, that the loud minority of those beating the drum for Trey don't end up basket cases…and come down with PTSD because Trey isn't starting. It is amazing how the vocal few have convinced themselves that Trey is going to start and literally tear up the NFL. Just a suggestion, but those pining for Trey to be our starter from day 1, please pull for JG to do well instead of trashing him. If he deserves to start….and i think he will, we ALL need to be behind him.

Likewise, it Trey starts, i hope ALL get behind him. Like K1ng and Blake fever above, i also am concerned about Trey and his lack of PT except for one yr at NDSU. Somehow, that just doesn't seem to translate into a day one starter in the NFL, when you have a QB who is 23-8 (or whatever it is) as a starter.

As mentioned earlier, if Trey is the better QB and by a wide margin, that will be clear to everyone. But if as i suspect, Jimmy is the better Qb, it would be disappointing if fans don't get behind him 100%. I, too , am anxious to see Trey play. But i am way more interested in taking the talent we have on the team at present, and winning it all…and my guess is JG is better positioned to do that based on NFL playing time, and working in Kyle's system.

It would be a shame if fans didn't support the guy we have out on the field as QB. Everyone's goal is to win the SB this yr. Experience is probably going to be the determining factor. Plus , it is to the advantage of us all for JG to have a career yr here…and not to get injured. If that happens….we are in great shape. Best situation of all 32 teams in the NFL at QB this yr.

Jimmy will probably start the year. Maybe even play the whole year. Trey may struggle at first. The NFL is so new to him. He hasn't played in a while. The level of competition is a huge step up.

That said Trey has a huge upside over time and I think he can be great. I hope for the best for him. If he does reach his potential we will be in great shape.

Trey doesn't struggle!!!! Fans struggle to appreciate that we are seeing the greatest ever being born. We are all witnesses!!!!!

Originally posted by socal1632:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
^^^Agreed. I just hope that when the season starts and Jimmy is our QB, that the loud minority of those beating the drum for Trey don't end up basket cases…and come down with PTSD because Trey isn't starting. It is amazing how the vocal few have convinced themselves that Trey is going to start and literally tear up the NFL. Just a suggestion, but those pining for Trey to be our starter from day 1, please pull for JG to do well instead of trashing him. If he deserves to start….and i think he will, we ALL need to be behind him.

Likewise, it Trey starts, i hope ALL get behind him. Like K1ng and Blake fever above, i also am concerned about Trey and his lack of PT except for one yr at NDSU. Somehow, that just doesn't seem to translate into a day one starter in the NFL, when you have a QB who is 23-8 (or whatever it is) as a starter.

As mentioned earlier, if Trey is the better QB and by a wide margin, that will be clear to everyone. But if as i suspect, Jimmy is the better Qb, it would be disappointing if fans don't get behind him 100%. I, too , am anxious to see Trey play. But i am way more interested in taking the talent we have on the team at present, and winning it all…and my guess is JG is better positioned to do that based on NFL playing time, and working in Kyle's system.

It would be a shame if fans didn't support the guy we have out on the field as QB. Everyone's goal is to win the SB this yr. Experience is probably going to be the determining factor. Plus , it is to the advantage of us all for JG to have a career yr here…and not to get injured. If that happens….we are in great shape. Best situation of all 32 teams in the NFL at QB this yr.

Jimmy will probably start the year. Maybe even play the whole year. Trey may struggle at first. The NFL is so new to him. He hasn't played in a while. The level of competition is a huge step up.

That said Trey has a huge upside over time and I think he can be great. I hope for the best for him. If he does reach his potential we will be in great shape.

Trey doesn't struggle!!!! Fans struggle to appreciate that we are seeing the greatest ever being born. We are all witnesses!!!!!

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

Originally posted by K1ngAsD3rek:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
If Jimmy Is the starter to begin with, I don't see Kyle benching him for Trey at any point of the season unless Jimmy Is struggling/fails to stay healthy. Who ever starts day 1 will most likely play out the entire season.

Tend to agree with this. I think Lance has quite a lot to learn. That being said, I guess there is a reasonable chance of Garoppolo picking up an injury.

This. We have a perfect scenario so there's absolutely zero reason to rush Trey. Let Trey take the Mahomes route and hopefully Jimmy can net us some capital

This x 1000. The best way to go about it.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Excellent and rational post

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
^^^Agreed. I just hope that when the season starts and Jimmy is our QB, that the loud minority of those beating the drum for Trey don't end up basket cases…and come down with PTSD because Trey isn't starting. It is amazing how the vocal few have convinced themselves that Trey is going to start and literally tear up the NFL. Just a suggestion, but those pining for Trey to be our starter from day 1, please pull for JG to do well instead of trashing him. If he deserves to start….and i think he will, we ALL need to be behind him.

Likewise, it Trey starts, i hope ALL get behind him. Like K1ng and Blake fever above, i also am concerned about Trey and his lack of PT except for one yr at NDSU. Somehow, that just doesn't seem to translate into a day one starter in the NFL, when you have a QB who is 23-8 (or whatever it is) as a starter.

As mentioned earlier, if Trey is the better QB and by a wide margin, that will be clear to everyone. But if as i suspect, Jimmy is the better Qb, it would be disappointing if fans don't get behind him 100%. I, too , am anxious to see Trey play. But i am way more interested in taking the talent we have on the team at present, and winning it all…and my guess is JG is better positioned to do that based on NFL playing time, and working in Kyle's system.

It would be a shame if fans didn't support the guy we have out on the field as QB. Everyone's goal is to win the SB this yr. Experience is probably going to be the determining factor. Plus , it is to the advantage of us all for JG to have a career yr here…and not to get injured. If that happens….we are in great shape. Best situation of all 32 teams in the NFL at QB this yr.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by frenchtoast:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The "sit Trey until Jimmy dies of old age" crowd like to imagine that if the Chiefs had had the audacity to play Mahomes his rookie season that they would have imploded and Mahomes would be out of the league by now.

Right? If sitting lead to more success every single QB drafted would be sitting year one.

Only way Trey isn't starting at some point this yr is if Jimmy is playing like the league MVP (doubtful) or his mechanics/understanding of the playbook aren't up to par…which from everything we're hearing/seeing isn't the case either.

Let's stop pretending like Jimmy is some elite QB, he's an okay starter, dude is gonna be gone in a year tops….honestly I don't see this massive downgrade between Jimmy and rookie Lance.

what Lance was asked to do in NDSU is gonna be damn near the same Kyle will ask of him in yr1 (maybe not running so much). Tons of play-action, boots/rollouts, half reads, slants, RPOs, get the ball in play-makers hands on 1st reads, and handing the ball off like 500x.

There's a huge myth going around about potentially "wasting" the season with starting a rookie QB. I've seen many posters say it so it's not just random trolls either.

The elephant in the room is the rookie wage scale. If you take a step back and just look at the super bowl winners over the years after the rookie wage scale you'll notice that unless you're Tom Brady, you have a much higher chance of winning the Super Bowl if your QB is on his rookie deal. Before the rookie wage scale, you have a bad teams having to pay their rookie QBs an absurd amount of money before they prove anything which almost always results in a bad season.

So there is an argument to be made that we would have a better chance to win the Super Bowl if we somehow traded Jimmy G's contract. That doesn't mean Jimmy can't win the Super Bowl this year and that doesn't mean it's certain that Lance would play better than Jimmy did in 2019. And I also don't hate the strategy we're using by keeping Jimmy. I think it's smart to have two potential quality starting QBs on the roster given our history with injuries.

But to argue the same old adage "rookie QBs never win super bowls" is beyond ignorant given what we know about teams that win Super Bowls post wage scale. Our team's success with regards to QB play is predicated on their ability to play, period. Nothing more and nothing less. And there's plenty of examples of rookies being more productive than Jimmy's best season.

So to claim we would be wasting the season starting Lance over Jimmy is basically saying it's impossible for him to play better than Jimmy when there's no you can assume that. We're in a very unique situation with a really good roster. You could make the argument this is the best team to draft a QB in the top 5 of the draft in NFL history. Whoever starts this season will be set up for success and I'll be rooting for them.

A rookie has never won a SB. Lance won't be a rookie next year and we still have 4 years of his contract left

^^Exhibit A.

I'm embarrassed for you that you just responded with that.

Embarrassed, Is it not the truth ?

Just admit you read nothing I wrote.

An adage is "a proverb or short statement expressing a general truth". Yes, it is a fact that no rookie QB has won the super bowl.

The whole point of my post was to explain why that is the case, the affect of the rookie wage scale 10 years ago and it's impact on rookie QBs pre implementation.

Today, unless you're Tom Brady, you're much more likely to win the super bowl with a QB on his rookie contract than a QB on a max deal like Jimmy.

We're seeing rookie QBs every year put up top 10 numbers and having huge impacts and statistical seasons Jimmy could never dream of. Being a rookie or second year or third year doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is your ability to play within your teams system. Especially for a team like us that wins with defense and a complex run game, If Lance started he wouldn't be asked to do much just like Jimmy G in 2/3 playoff games.

What's embarrassing is stating "no rookie QB has ever won the Super Bowl" without understanding the context of that statement and believing it has any barring on who gives us the best chance to win.

No matter what context you try to add , it has never happened and mostly likely not happen this year.

I don't care how much you hype a 10k/1 bet, I'm not banking on it.

Good. That's why you're a couch potato and NOT A COACH. Use your eyes and your brain. Trey has it all over Jimmy who is damaged goods and can't outrun anyone. Trey is bigger, much faster, has a much stronger arm and isn't afraid to throw it 50 yards. He did to Kittle and now Kittle calls him a freak and can't wait to catch passes from him. We're not going to win anything with Jimmy as a statue. His train has left the station. It would be a complete waste of time to put Jimmy on the field and eliminate a big complementary part of the RUNNING GAME. Once Niner fans actually see Trey run, they'll understand the futility of wasting time on Jimmy. He's gone, he just hasn't left yet. He left when he refused to play the last three games last season. Those who don't believe that don't know Kyle...

I'm actually more coach than couch lol

but you're basing your decisions on feelings here. It's all good

Feelings? I've been a 49er fan all 75 years. Do you think I want to waste a full year of my life as well as the life of the next GREAT 49er QB?
A word of wisdom. Time is precious...NEVER waste it because you can never get it back.

Originally posted by frenchtoast:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by frenchtoast:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
The "sit Trey until Jimmy dies of old age" crowd like to imagine that if the Chiefs had had the audacity to play Mahomes his rookie season that they would have imploded and Mahomes would be out of the league by now.

Right? If sitting lead to more success every single QB drafted would be sitting year one.

Only way Trey isn't starting at some point this yr is if Jimmy is playing like the league MVP (doubtful) or his mechanics/understanding of the playbook aren't up to par…which from everything we're hearing/seeing isn't the case either.

Let's stop pretending like Jimmy is some elite QB, he's an okay starter, dude is gonna be gone in a year tops….honestly I don't see this massive downgrade between Jimmy and rookie Lance.

what Lance was asked to do in NDSU is gonna be damn near the same Kyle will ask of him in yr1 (maybe not running so much). Tons of play-action, boots/rollouts, half reads, slants, RPOs, get the ball in play-makers hands on 1st reads, and handing the ball off like 500x.

There's a huge myth going around about potentially "wasting" the season with starting a rookie QB. I've seen many posters say it so it's not just random trolls either.

The elephant in the room is the rookie wage scale. If you take a step back and just look at the super bowl winners over the years after the rookie wage scale you'll notice that unless you're Tom Brady, you have a much higher chance of winning the Super Bowl if your QB is on his rookie deal. Before the rookie wage scale, you have a bad teams having to pay their rookie QBs an absurd amount of money before they prove anything which almost always results in a bad season.

So there is an argument to be made that we would have a better chance to win the Super Bowl if we somehow traded Jimmy G's contract. That doesn't mean Jimmy can't win the Super Bowl this year and that doesn't mean it's certain that Lance would play better than Jimmy did in 2019. And I also don't hate the strategy we're using by keeping Jimmy. I think it's smart to have two potential quality starting QBs on the roster given our history with injuries.

But to argue the same old adage "rookie QBs never win super bowls" is beyond ignorant given what we know about teams that win Super Bowls post wage scale. Our team's success with regards to QB play is predicated on their ability to play, period. Nothing more and nothing less. And there's plenty of examples of rookies being more productive than Jimmy's best season.

So to claim we would be wasting the season starting Lance over Jimmy is basically saying it's impossible for him to play better than Jimmy when there's no you can assume that. We're in a very unique situation with a really good roster. You could make the argument this is the best team to draft a QB in the top 5 of the draft in NFL history. Whoever starts this season will be set up for success and I'll be rooting for them.

A rookie has never won a SB. Lance won't be a rookie next year and we still have 4 years of his contract left

^^Exhibit A.

I'm embarrassed for you that you just responded with that.

Embarrassed, Is it not the truth ?

Just admit you read nothing I wrote.

An adage is "a proverb or short statement expressing a general truth". Yes, it is a fact that no rookie QB has won the super bowl.

The whole point of my post was to explain why that is the case, the affect of the rookie wage scale 10 years ago and it's impact on rookie QBs pre implementation.

Today, unless you're Tom Brady, you're much more likely to win the super bowl with a QB on his rookie contract than a QB on a max deal like Jimmy.

We're seeing rookie QBs every year put up top 10 numbers and having huge impacts and statistical seasons Jimmy could never dream of. Being a rookie or second year or third year doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is your ability to play within your teams system. Especially for a team like us that wins with defense and a complex run game, If Lance started he wouldn't be asked to do much just like Jimmy G in 2/3 playoff games.

What's embarrassing is stating "no rookie QB has ever won the Super Bowl" without understanding the context of that statement and believing it has any barring on who gives us the best chance to win.

No matter what context you try to add , it has never happened and mostly likely not happen this year.

I don't care how much you hype a 10k/1 bet, I'm not banking on it.

Good. That's why you're a couch potato and NOT A COACH. Use your eyes and your brain. Trey has it all over Jimmy who is damaged goods and can't outrun anyone. Trey is bigger, much faster, has a much stronger arm and isn't afraid to throw it 50 yards. He did to Kittle and now Kittle calls him a freak and can't wait to catch passes from him. We're not going to win anything with Jimmy as a statue. His train has left the station. It would be a complete waste of time to put Jimmy on the field and eliminate a big complementary part of the RUNNING GAME. Once Niner fans actually see Trey run, they'll understand the futility of wasting time on Jimmy. He's gone, he just hasn't left yet. He left when he refused to play the last three games last season. Those who don't believe that don't know Kyle...

I'm actually more coach than couch lol

but you're basing your decisions on feelings here. It's all good

Feelings? I've been a 49er fan all 75 years. Do you think I want to waste a full year of my life as well as the life of the next GREAT 49er QB?
A word of wisdom. Time is precious...NEVER waste it because you can never get it back.

Yes feelings. And with your post on impatience proves it.

Lance just turned 21. Ease him so he can take the reigns at full speed next year

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Excellent and rational post

Agreed, good post. Good reasoning, good football sense & knowledge. Nice to see here in NT.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Excellent and rational post

Agreed, good post. Good reasoning, good football sense & knowledge. Nice to see here in NT.

It's funny how's some fans claim Trey can only get better with game reps and then admit he HAS GOTTEN BETTER in the time since his last game working on his mechanics and so on (without live game reps). Do they even hear themselves??

Originally posted by elguapo:
It's funny how's some fans claim Trey can only get better with game reps and then admit he HAS GOTTEN BETTER in the time since his last game working on his mechanics and so on (without live game reps). Do they even hear themselves??

But...
The only source of knowledge is experience. ~Albert Einstein
Experience is the teacher of all things. ~Julius Caesar

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by elguapo:
It's funny how's some fans claim Trey can only get better with game reps and then admit he HAS GOTTEN BETTER in the time since his last game working on his mechanics and so on (without live game reps). Do they even hear themselves??

But...
The only source of knowledge is experience. ~Albert Einstein
Experience is the teacher of all things. ~Julius Caesar

He will get that experience but to say that is the only way to improve is false. These same people probably were the same ones denying that Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers improved with the time they spent on the bench It is possible to work out some mechanics flaws and just flaws in your game without actually playing.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Excellent and rational post

Agreed, good post. Good reasoning, good football sense & knowledge. Nice to see here in NT.

It's funny how's some fans claim Trey can only get better with game reps and then admit he HAS GOTTEN BETTER in the time since his last game working on his mechanics and so on (without live game reps). Do they even hear themselves??

Somehow he will get worse working with NFL staff and etc is what I've been told

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Excellent and rational post

Agreed, good post. Good reasoning, good football sense & knowledge. Nice to see here in NT.

It's funny how's some fans claim Trey can only get better with game reps and then admit he HAS GOTTEN BETTER in the time since his last game working on his mechanics and so on (without live game reps). Do they even hear themselves??

Somehow he will get worse working with NFL staff and etc is what I've been told

I know right even though everybody from coaches to players said he has improved.....but yeah, let's believe some fans on here instead

Originally posted by elguapo:
It's funny how's some fans claim Trey can only get better with game reps and then admit he HAS GOTTEN BETTER in the time since his last game working on his mechanics and so on (without live game reps). Do they even hear themselves??

If anyone has said he can only get better with game reps, I think they are referring to specific improvements (speed of the game, diagnosing an NFL defense at the LOS, etc.). I don't think they mean he can only improve every aspect of his game in a live game setting. That would be a ridiculous take. In essence, such a perspective would render practices, film study, etc., useless.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
It's safe to say we all want Trey to succeed, but it's amazing the split on when to start him. I'm all for sitting him until he's ready or if Jimmy gets hurt. Hell, if Jimmy gets hurt, Rosen might be the first QB off the bench.

Generally, the only thing that puts a rookie QB on the field immediately is a terrible rebuilding team. The Jags with Lawrence and the Jets with Wilson.

For teams with playoff aspirations, it's TOO RISKY to turn the team over to a rookie from day 1. The Bears already announces Dalton the starter over Fields. Why? To attempt to save their season and jobs by starting the veteran. When Dalton falters, Fields will get his shot, but only when something forces their hand.

People who want to start Lance point to the handful of instances where it's worked, ignoring the dozens of times it hasn't.

The Niners have the luxury of playing to win now and in the future. I can't think of a better situation to be in.

Relax, guys.

Excellent and rational post

Agreed, good post. Good reasoning, good football sense & knowledge. Nice to see here in NT.

It's funny how's some fans claim Trey can only get better with game reps and then admit he HAS GOTTEN BETTER in the time since his last game working on his mechanics and so on (without live game reps). Do they even hear themselves??

I don't see what is contradictory about those statements? You can learn and improve on a lot of things (like throwing mechanics, film study, etc.) without playing, but there are some things you can only learn from being on the field and getting actual in-game experience.

If we imagine two different scenarios: one where Trey Lance plays 10+ games this year and one where he sits all year, which is more likely to result in him being a better player in year 2? In my opinion, it's the former and I don't think that scenario requires us to sacrifice our shot at winning the Super Bowl this year. In part because I just don't think the Jimmy we've seen for the majority of his time here is good enough to win a Super Bowl unless a ton of things bounce in our favor, so our odds of winning it are low whether we start Trey or not. I also don't think it's likely that Trey would be hurt by starting too early, because I don't see Kyle asking him to do too much right away. We have Trey on a rookie contract for the next 5 years, we should make every attempt to maximize that and get him rolling as soon as possible.

Unfortunately, however this unfolds, we won't know how the alternatives would have played out. It's easy to point at situations like Mahomes and say that proves that a QB benefits from sitting, but nobody knows how Mahomes would have performed if he had taken over the job mid-season rather than sitting. The Chargers planned on sitting Herbert last year, but then Tyrod was injured and now nobody thinks that Herbert needed to sit.