Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
When I went back and watched, yes while it wasn't as bad as my emotions told me, it was still REALLY bad IMO.
There could be reasons for that that I can admit I wasn't giving enough consideration to, but that said, I've got to see him do much better than this by the end of preseason at minimum. Ideally bouncing back asap on Saturday.
There was errors that were not on Trey, mistakes were made in routs....almost certainly....
Having said that... there was more then 3 bad throws...my 8 am brain just woke up brain can think of at least 4. The overthrow on check down, the one handed catch in the middle of the field, and the two near INT.
Those are on top of his timing issues, missed plays and likely confusion with coverage.
We can give him credit for his three "high level completions", but 2 of them are against a prevent defense with less then 30 seconds before half time needing to drive the length of the field.....
Nah, that game was bad.... Trey will live to fight another day. but he has to learn from that game and push forward.
To me the biggest issue is he still has almost a complete lack of anticipation, and really does not progress well down the passing chart.
Some posters have been upset that Trey never got a shot this year to compete for QB1.....yeah....if this game is indicative of what the 49ers have seen in practice.... I get it.... I get why he is not competing for QB1.
This game Trey had a hard time processing down the passing chart. He is slow to do it, and has no anticipation of where the defender will be in relation to his targets. You contrast that with Brock finding Kittle in the playoffs making up his own routs and being somewhat open somewhere he is not suppose to be and hitting him for a crucial chunk play....it does look like these two have completely different abilities to see what is taking place in front of them.
There's an element of cleverness that is missing from Lance's game and jonnydel pointed it out well in his video breakdown - eye manipulation versus zone coverage. I don't know at what point a QB starts doing this but it must be done at the NFL level. Trust the pre snap read and while dropping back look somewhere else to open the passing lane to the route most likely to be open versus that coverage.
100%. That's a thing Brock had in spades and Kyle and John talked about it last season when he was playing. How well he was doing with eye manipulation. Jimmy would over-rely on it sometimes thinking he could give a quick look off and jam a ball in and he'd set himself up for a pick.
I honestly think Jimmy never came back from that injury........ I am sure he spent his entire football life pre-injury being able to just beat teams with quick throws aided by his release....
Makes me wonder about all these picks we are hearing about from Brock.....
I would have guessed Brock either new that playbook better then any rookie has a right too....or he gambled and won a lot.
Having not seen any of the practices, and knowing next to nothing....I would really have to think Brock is gambling and loosing... Could it be his arm? Injury got him messed up still? Or was this bound to happen like it does to every "gun slinger"?
I am 200% team Brock, but if it gambling.... Shanny has to put the screws down on him. There is a time and place for chaotic brilliance, but you cant build an offense around it.