Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

I keep going back to one thought. As far as I know, Darnold and Allen only signed one-year deals, which means we are still going to need QB's next year. Does Darnold want to stay on as a back-up, or will he be looking to start again somewhere, depending on how the season evolves of course. And what about Allen, I doubt he's considered starting material in this league, but he may have some options on where else he might want to go as a back-up. Lance is still under contract for two more years. Assuming they don't pick up his 5h year option, why not keep him around and see what he might turn into. Given our injury history at the position, I am all for keeping as many QB's as possible.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by bzborow1:
Who cares about what anybody else is doing, how is Trey Lance performing? Well, the best analysis I've seen thus far comes from JT O'Sullivan and he's not liking what he is seeing. He introduces the concept of turn downs, or routes that should have been thrown to but weren't.

https://youtu.be/zRd5ShRVpzo

Dude was hesitant early in that preseason game for sure. No way around it. I thought he improved a little as the game went on.

it's funny I watched all of Brock's throws from the Dallas game today and I saw two plays that were identical to what Lance did. He hesitated and the play was a negative. It shows that every young QB (especially one with damn near no legit starts) has those moments.

Lmfao!
absolutely pathetic post!
comparing a worthless preseason game to a playoff game against the number two defense!!

dude your trying way to hard for attention.

If your goal is to prove your NOT a hater of Brock, this is definitely not the way to do it!!

Can we trade Lance to the Ukrainian government? I'm sure he can help them overthrow Russia.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:
There is clearly a major difference between Lance and Fields in terms of running ability. Makes you really question WTF our FO was looking at.

It's a big reason why I was so confident we would take fields. The way kyle was talking about have a dual threat and playing 11-11, I didn't see it with Lance. I thought it was crystal clear with fields.

he has above average mobility, he isn't a statue, but he also isn't mobile enough to design into a gameplan and make plays for it. IMO, he moves well enough to create time and opportunity when a play breaks down but doesn't have the agility, elusiveness, or quickness to have a designed run game around. I don't think I saw him beat a defender to the edge once on a designed run play.

Meh, he's a lot more mobile than Jimmy. With a stronger arm and taller.

He's definitely more mobile than jimmy. Jimmy looks way more athletic than he is. It's kinda surprising how slow he was. Lol or at least never attempted to run much.

Lance isn't a statue, I think where the negativity behind his mobility comes is that Kyle billed the whole selection like he wanted to play 11-11 and have that threat on every play. Almost like a fields or Lamar threat.

tbh if Lance was quicker/more agile, it would help His passing lanes open up a lot more because of the hesiststikn it would cause defenders. That's what it does for Lamar, he really isn't a very accurate QB (he isn't inaccurate) but he isn't someone who you'd necessarily worry about dicing you up if he stays in the pocket. He's just so special with his mobility that it makes it easier for him to have bigger throwing windows.

On Trey's mobility - the guy put in over one thousand yards on the ground in college. I think he can operate a Lamar Jackson Roman offense. Now he's not Lamar, that's a given, but I think Greg Roman would still make Trey work in his offense. Trey's mobility still enables the 11 on 11 play on those run/pass options and short yardage situations despite his lack of short area burst like Brock/Lamar. Having said that, Trey's potential as a pocket passer is even higher than (I think) Lamar Jackson's. Again, I rely on Kyle's assessment on this and my own eyes seeing him play. As for his processor, both Steve and Kurt said it's not an obsolete processor, it's just in the beginning stages of development. I'd weigh these opinions higher than Greg Cosell's or Mike Lombardie's thank you.

Trey is interesting when it comes to his mobility because most mobile guys actually rely on their athleticism to help them in the passing game (lame, fields etc). But Trey is kinda the opposite, his mobility would be more effective if he was stronger in the pass game. He needs guys to back off and respect his accuracy.

I've said before that I don't think Lance will ever be an elite qb but I do think he's more than capable of being a high end game manager, he just needs to get comfortable with the speed of the game and trust what he's seeing, take more changes. Be more gun slinger ish. He has a strong arm, where he can jam balls in small windows better than a lot of people can. I think he can be a good passing qb. More than lamar and fields, very possible. Time will tell. I think st worse he can be as good as them.

Steve Young didn't look like Steve Young ether in 1987. But he developed under a great Coach. Trey has the same situation. It's up to Trey now to develop and learn and grow. As much as the Trey naysayers harp about Trey this and That, sucks this and that, it's still in the past. *Nobody* including Kyle knows how Trey will develop these next couple of games. Nobody. Those focusing on the past should just stay in the past and let the folks optimistic about Trey's future post about Trey's future.

But on a more serious note, Trey - if nothing else - adds tremendous QB depth and QB1 potential versus a guy like Brandon Allen who doesn't add any of that. By the way Brandon Allen is on the wrong side of 30. Just so everybody high on Allen is aware of that.

When Trey is 30, he might be better than Allen right now. But Trey only has 2 years left on this contract, so the fact that he is young isn't going to help us in anyway.

Right now Allen is functional and can execute. I am not sure Trey is even functional at this point.

Originally posted by prospector49:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:
There is clearly a major difference between Lance and Fields in terms of running ability. Makes you really question WTF our FO was looking at.

It's a big reason why I was so confident we would take fields. The way kyle was talking about have a dual threat and playing 11-11, I didn't see it with Lance. I thought it was crystal clear with fields.

he has above average mobility, he isn't a statue, but he also isn't mobile enough to design into a gameplan and make plays for it. IMO, he moves well enough to create time and opportunity when a play breaks down but doesn't have the agility, elusiveness, or quickness to have a designed run game around. I don't think I saw him beat a defender to the edge once on a designed run play.

Meh, he's a lot more mobile than Jimmy. With a stronger arm and taller.

He's definitely more mobile than jimmy. Jimmy looks way more athletic than he is. It's kinda surprising how slow he was. Lol or at least never attempted to run much.

Lance isn't a statue, I think where the negativity behind his mobility comes is that Kyle billed the whole selection like he wanted to play 11-11 and have that threat on every play. Almost like a fields or Lamar threat.

tbh if Lance was quicker/more agile, it would help His passing lanes open up a lot more because of the hesiststikn it would cause defenders. That's what it does for Lamar, he really isn't a very accurate QB (he isn't inaccurate) but he isn't someone who you'd necessarily worry about dicing you up if he stays in the pocket. He's just so special with his mobility that it makes it easier for him to have bigger throwing windows.

On Trey's mobility - the guy put in over one thousand yards on the ground in college. I think he can operate a Lamar Jackson Roman offense. Now he's not Lamar, that's a given, but I think Greg Roman would still make Trey work in his offense. Trey's mobility still enables the 11 on 11 play on those run/pass options and short yardage situations despite his lack of short area burst like Brock/Lamar. Having said that, Trey's potential as a pocket passer is even higher than (I think) Lamar Jackson's. Again, I rely on Kyle's assessment on this and my own eyes seeing him play. As for his processor, both Steve and Kurt said it's not an obsolete processor, it's just in the beginning stages of development. I'd weigh these opinions higher than Greg Cosell's or Mike Lombardie's thank you.

Trey is interesting when it comes to his mobility because most mobile guys actually rely on their athleticism to help them in the passing game (lame, fields etc). But Trey is kinda the opposite, his mobility would be more effective if he was stronger in the pass game. He needs guys to back off and respect his accuracy.

I've said before that I don't think Lance will ever be an elite qb but I do think he's more than capable of being a high end game manager, he just needs to get comfortable with the speed of the game and trust what he's seeing, take more changes. Be more gun slinger ish. He has a strong arm, where he can jam balls in small windows better than a lot of people can. I think he can be a good passing qb. More than lamar and fields, very possible. Time will tell. I think st worse he can be as good as them.

Steve Young didn't look like Steve Young ether in 1987. But he developed under a great Coach. Trey has the same situation. It's up to Trey now to develop and learn and grow. As much as the Trey naysayers harp about Trey this and That, sucks this and that, it's still in the past. *Nobody* including Kyle knows how Trey will develop these next couple of games. Nobody. Those focusing on the past should just stay in the past and let the folks optimistic about Trey's future post about Trey's future.

But on a more serious note, Trey - if nothing else - adds tremendous QB depth and QB1 potential versus a guy like Brandon Allen who doesn't add any of that. By the way Brandon Allen is on the wrong side of 30. Just so everybody high on Allen is aware of that.

Not the same situation. Steve Young had a stellar college career, 4 years, against top level competition. Lance is essentially a great high school athlete that played a year of college football against inferior competition, in a limited offense. Not even enough to see how he stacked up against legit COLLEGE competition. Then he say for a year, then he declared for the draft.

Steve Young *sucked* in the USFL and SUCKED in the NFL, until he was coached by Bill Walsh. Trey torched the Texans in his rookie year playing only one high school year as QB and one college year at NDSU. Trey has Kyle developing him. This guy Kyle, found Jimmy. Nobody wanted Jimmy in 2017 except the Browns, who played the Pats twice a year and knew how good Jimmy was. How about Brock Purdy? Oh Kyle got lucky with Purdy? What team is Purdy on? Trey is going to be on this team in 2023, it's just now a matter of how good he'll be by seasons end. I hope he'll be worth a high round pick by seasons, end. We shall see.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:

There is clearly a major difference between Lance and Fields in terms of running ability. Makes you really question WTF our FO was looking at.

It's a big reason why I was so confident we would take fields. The way kyle was talking about have a dual threat and playing 11-11, I didn't see it with Lance. I thought it was crystal clear with fields.

he has above average mobility, he isn't a statue, but he also isn't mobile enough to design into a gameplan and make plays for it. IMO, he moves well enough to create time and opportunity when a play breaks down but doesn't have the agility, elusiveness, or quickness to have a designed run game around. I don't think I saw him beat a defender to the edge once on a designed run play.

Meh, he's a lot more mobile than Jimmy. With a stronger arm and taller.

He's definitely more mobile than jimmy. Jimmy looks way more athletic than he is. It's kinda surprising how slow he was. Lol or at least never attempted to run much.

Lance isn't a statue, I think where the negativity behind his mobility comes is that Kyle billed the whole selection like he wanted to play 11-11 and have that threat on every play. Almost like a fields or Lamar threat.

tbh if Lance was quicker/more agile, it would help His passing lanes open up a lot more because of the hesiststikn it would cause defenders. That's what it does for Lamar, he really isn't a very accurate QB (he isn't inaccurate) but he isn't someone who you'd necessarily worry about dicing you up if he stays in the pocket. He's just so special with his mobility that it makes it easier for him to have bigger throwing windows.

On Trey's mobility - the guy put in over one thousand yards on the ground in college. I think he can operate a Lamar Jackson Roman offense. Now he's not Lamar, that's a given, but I think Greg Roman would still make Trey work in his offense. Trey's mobility still enables the 11 on 11 play on those run/pass options and short yardage situations despite his lack of short area burst like Brock/Lamar. Having said that, Trey's potential as a pocket passer is even higher than (I think) Lamar Jackson's. Again, I rely on Kyle's assessment on this and my own eyes seeing him play. As for his processor, both Steve and Kurt said it's not an obsolete processor, it's just in the beginning stages of development. I'd weigh these opinions higher than Greg Cosell's or Mike Lombardie's thank you.

Trey is interesting when it comes to his mobility because most mobile guys actually rely on their athleticism to help them in the passing game (lame, fields etc). But Trey is kinda the opposite, his mobility would be more effective if he was stronger in the pass game. He needs guys to back off and respect his accuracy.

I've said before that I don't think Lance will ever be an elite qb but I do think he's more than capable of being a high end game manager, he just needs to get comfortable with the speed of the game and trust what he's seeing, take more changes. Be more gun slinger ish. He has a strong arm, where he can jam balls in small windows better than a lot of people can. I think he can be a good passing qb. More than lamar and fields, very possible. Time will tell. I think st worse he can be as good as them.

Steve Young didn't look like Steve Young ether in 1987. But he developed under a great Coach. Trey has the same situation. It's up to Trey now to develop and learn and grow. As much as the Trey naysayers harp about Trey this and That, sucks this and that, it's still in the past. *Nobody* including Kyle knows how Trey will develop these next couple of games. Nobody. Those focusing on the past should just stay in the past and let the folks optimistic about Trey's future post about Trey's future.

But on a more serious note, Trey - if nothing else - adds tremendous QB depth and QB1 potential versus a guy like Brandon Allen who doesn't add any of that. By the way Brandon Allen is on the wrong side of 30. Just so everybody high on Allen is aware of that.

I look at things this way at this point. Based on reps, and all we've heard coming out of practice, and even Kyle's attitude towards Trey (which oddly enough I don't really detect any negativity in terms of job security), the kid is at minimum QB3 right now. If Trey was QB3, maybe that's not a bad thing at all. This team has pretty much all but confirmed we are absolutely keeping 3 QBs.

As far as the pre-season game, he never looked quite THAT bad in any of his action the previous two years. I mean, the kid has an NFL win under his belt in his small sample size so far and it was a MUST-WIN game too. So perhaps that was more of an outlier than our emotions told us. Kyle seems to believe Trey is worth keeping on the roster. We'll see what happens at final cuts.

Originally posted by English:
Fropwns may not forgive me for this but I see nothing to place Allen ahead of Lance. Nothing. And I am unconvinced about Darnold as well.

salary cap, the delta is over $4 million in favor of Allen

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by lamontb:
There is clearly a major difference between Lance and Fields in terms of running ability. Makes you really question WTF our FO was looking at.

It's a big reason why I was so confident we would take fields. The way kyle was talking about have a dual threat and playing 11-11, I didn't see it with Lance. I thought it was crystal clear with fields.

he has above average mobility, he isn't a statue, but he also isn't mobile enough to design into a gameplan and make plays for it. IMO, he moves well enough to create time and opportunity when a play breaks down but doesn't have the agility, elusiveness, or quickness to have a designed run game around. I don't think I saw him beat a defender to the edge once on a designed run play.

Meh, he's a lot more mobile than Jimmy. With a stronger arm and taller.

He's definitely more mobile than jimmy. Jimmy looks way more athletic than he is. It's kinda surprising how slow he was. Lol or at least never attempted to run much.

Lance isn't a statue, I think where the negativity behind his mobility comes is that Kyle billed the whole selection like he wanted to play 11-11 and have that threat on every play. Almost like a fields or Lamar threat.

tbh if Lance was quicker/more agile, it would help His passing lanes open up a lot more because of the hesiststikn it would cause defenders. That's what it does for Lamar, he really isn't a very accurate QB (he isn't inaccurate) but he isn't someone who you'd necessarily worry about dicing you up if he stays in the pocket. He's just so special with his mobility that it makes it easier for him to have bigger throwing windows.

On Trey's mobility - the guy put in over one thousand yards on the ground in college. I think he can operate a Lamar Jackson Roman offense. Now he's not Lamar, that's a given, but I think Greg Roman would still make Trey work in his offense. Trey's mobility still enables the 11 on 11 play on those run/pass options and short yardage situations despite his lack of short area burst like Brock/Lamar. Having said that, Trey's potential as a pocket passer is even higher than (I think) Lamar Jackson's. Again, I rely on Kyle's assessment on this and my own eyes seeing him play. As for his processor, both Steve and Kurt said it's not an obsolete processor, it's just in the beginning stages of development. I'd weigh these opinions higher than Greg Cosell's or Mike Lombardie's thank you.

Trey is interesting when it comes to his mobility because most mobile guys actually rely on their athleticism to help them in the passing game (lame, fields etc). But Trey is kinda the opposite, his mobility would be more effective if he was stronger in the pass game. He needs guys to back off and respect his accuracy.

I've said before that I don't think Lance will ever be an elite qb but I do think he's more than capable of being a high end game manager, he just needs to get comfortable with the speed of the game and trust what he's seeing, take more changes. Be more gun slinger ish. He has a strong arm, where he can jam balls in small windows better than a lot of people can. I think he can be a good passing qb. More than lamar and fields, very possible. Time will tell. I think st worse he can be as good as them.

Steve Young didn't look like Steve Young ether in 1987. But he developed under a great Coach. Trey has the same situation. It's up to Trey now to develop and learn and grow. As much as the Trey naysayers harp about Trey this and That, sucks this and that, it's still in the past. *Nobody* including Kyle knows how Trey will develop these next couple of games. Nobody. Those focusing on the past should just stay in the past and let the folks optimistic about Trey's future post about Trey's future.

But on a more serious note, Trey - if nothing else - adds tremendous QB depth and QB1 potential versus a guy like Brandon Allen who doesn't add any of that. By the way Brandon Allen is on the wrong side of 30. Just so everybody high on Allen is aware of that.

When Trey is 30, he might be better than Allen right now. But Trey only has 2 years left on this contract, so the fact that he is young isn't going to help us in anyway.

Right now Allen is functional and can execute. I am not sure Trey is even functional at this point.

I appreciate your negative view but disagree with it. We don't know what will happen these next two preseason games. I'll just let it play out, so I'm not buying what you are selling.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Shemp:
They teach you about sunk costs in finance. Cash or monetary equivalent outlays that are not recoverable should play zero part in future decision making because no matter what decision you make, the cash outlay is still gone. The 3 first round picks are a sunk cost. We can keep doubling down on a bad decision to try and convince ourselves otherwise, but if you completely ignore and mentally erase what it took to get Lance, then he has no business being on our roster. I mean the man is battling to not be QB3! As one scout stated, he ZERO dominant traits on film. The whole "potential" argument is a complete and utter house of cards.

You forgot the key principle of investment - the principle of appreciation. Certain undervalued assets can appreciate over time if you appreciate those assets.

sunk costs are never put on the balance sheet, they can never appreciate

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

When Javon Kinlaw went on Grant Cohn's channel because he felt he was disrespected, the whole 49ers clubhouse went at Grant, and backed Javon. When Michael Lombardi disrespects Trey Lance and his family, the only person who backs him up is a former 49er???

— John🔫 (@49ersgamg) August 16, 2023

It is actually a good point. I think the team feels like Trey is not even QB2 at this point and won't be on the team next season, so they don't come out to defend Trey.

I saw Mostert he certainly had TLs back, did ya'll see that one? We have a class team, and they all get behind one another. KS addressed it said TL does a good job blocking it out. It's part of the paycheck of being a pro athlete, public criticism, and there are always clowns out there, usually it is Skip Bayless lol. Sometimes they try to cross boundaries, just to make a name for themselves.

Javon backed Lance too. Not every player who saw the comment is gonna be posting stuff on social media.

Just Kinlaw, right? Where is the rest of the team?

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by bzborow1:
Who cares about what anybody else is doing, how is Trey Lance performing? Well, the best analysis I've seen thus far comes from JT O'Sullivan and he's not liking what he is seeing. He introduces the concept of turn downs, or routes that should have been thrown to but weren't.

https://youtu.be/zRd5ShRVpzo

Dude was hesitant early in that preseason game for sure. No way around it. I thought he improved a little as the game went on.

it's funny I watched all of Brock's throws from the Dallas game today and I saw two plays that were identical to what Lance did. He hesitated and the play was a negative. It shows that every young QB (especially one with damn near no legit starts) has those moments.

Lmfao!
absolutely pathetic post!
comparing a worthless preseason game to a playoff game against the number two defense!!

dude your trying way to hard for attention.

If your goal is to prove your NOT a hater of Brock, this is definitely not the way to do it!!

Agreed. I would think you want to pull the trigger in a meaningless preseason game rather than sling it recklessly in a divisional game against a ball hawking defense. We have already seen Brock sling it and not hesitate.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by bzborow1:
Who cares about what anybody else is doing, how is Trey Lance performing? Well, the best analysis I've seen thus far comes from JT O'Sullivan and he's not liking what he is seeing. He introduces the concept of turn downs, or routes that should have been thrown to but weren't.

https://youtu.be/zRd5ShRVpzo

Dude was hesitant early in that preseason game for sure. No way around it. I thought he improved a little as the game went on.

it's funny I watched all of Brock's throws from the Dallas game today and I saw two plays that were identical to what Lance did. He hesitated and the play was a negative. It shows that every young QB (especially one with damn near no legit starts) has those moments.

Lmfao!
absolutely pathetic post!
comparing a worthless preseason game to a playoff game against the number two defense!!

dude your trying way to hard for attention.

If your goal is to prove your NOT a hater of Brock, this is definitely not the way to do it!!

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Interesting take from Steve Young. He doesn't think Trey is slow mentally or confused but he's thinking too much trying to be perfect. Certainly possible.

Trey seems capable of making some plays out there, but he has to just settle down and run the offense. He's overwhelmed, that's very clear. The reason he's overwhelmednder could be many different reasons.

Everything we've heard says he knows the offense super well, so why didn't he execute it properly most of Sunday?

He wasn't trusting his reads. Why? If they're processing fine, what would make a guy hesitate? If you look at where Trey was looking, it wasn't that he couldn't progress through his options, he just wouldn't pull the trigger and then half the time panicked or was late on throw to the outlet or third read.

Trey's probably never had to deal with the adversity he's dealing with right now and it kind of shows in his tentativeness. He's been privileged athlete and starter from the git go wherever he's been. This is a new experience for him being a backup and bench warmer. It kind of shows in his game as tentativeness or uncertainty because he's pressing. He's used to being The Man, not the bench warmer, and it's something he has to overcome. Being relegated to bench warmer probably has taken a toll on his confidence. It's up to Kyle to remedy that as best as he can - but it's on Trey's shoulders to overcome this adversity as Steve said in his interview. Steve had to deal with the same thing backing up Joe.

Treys hesitation reminds me of a younger Alex smith. Needed to know everything and it needed to be perfect for him to execute, which is an issue. He needs to get through it. I don't personally think Trey doesn't know what's going on, I think he's struggling to feel confident with the timing because he's inexperienced and hasn't played much in the last 5-6 yeaes. Lol especially at the nfl speed

Yeah, he can give up, or keep grinding and making mistakes - taking the heat (as he is now) - and just keep going through the adversity. That's all he can do right now - if he really wants to be a QB in the NFL, and do well in Kyle's system. Kyle wants Trey to do well, so he'll give him the needed reps and quality reps that specifically will develop him, but Kyle also has to develop Brock and so Trey has to squeeze out the learning from every rep, the way Mullens and Brock have done. It's a new way of learning for him because he's been The Man for so long in his brief experience as QB. He did get all the reps, now he doesn't.

The way he keeps talking about taking advantage of reps, it's no secret he realizes he simply hasn't seen things enough to trust what he's seeing.

Practice reps aren't helping him enough, he clearly needs a lot of live reps. I'd like to see him play an entire half Saturday, even if it's just the second half.

In the back of my mind, I kind of wonder if he is worth keeping as a third QB going forward if that situation presents itself. My guess is that doesn't happen and he does up a backup somewhere else.

Is he worth keeping? Well if he continues to progress, I would say yes. He's no better than a rookie QB that has a two year contract with the 49ers right now. He does add some depth if he continues to develop. Dude has an arm and legs to play in the NFL. He has an NFL body, now he just needs to have an NFL brain. Who better to develop that brain than the one who's worked miracles with a guy like Jimmy. Point being, Kyle's had enough experience himself with good and bad QB's to basically tell who's redeemable and who isn't. Kyle basically fired himself from another NFL team because he refused to work with a QB he thought sucked.

It's an interest situation. The thing that intrigues me is that, despite his clear excitement for Sam Darnold, Kyle doesn't sound at all like he's given up on Trey. Usually it's pretty obvious if he's lost faith in a guy, or is doubting someone (see Pettis). Not getting that vibe with Trey.

Guess we'll see going forward.

IMO, I thought it was pretty obvious he lost faith in Trey. Going from QB1 all the way down to competing for QB2. Kyle tried his best to not say bad things about Trey to not wipe out any remaining trade value, but I can see his facial expression he was tired of having to talk things up about Trey post game.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by English:
Fropwns may not forgive me for this but I see nothing to place Allen ahead of Lance. Nothing. And I am unconvinced about Darnold as well.

salary cap, the delta is over $4 million in favor of Allen

Lol! The cap this year is 228.4 million. 4 million is as close to irrelevant as it gets. Allen is not in my view in any way comparable to Lance. If you really propose to keep a player just to save about 2% of the cap, don't keep a player at all.

Originally posted by Heroism:
LMFAO at the soft ass weenieboy article on the WZ frontpage saying that Trey is owed an apology. 🤡🌍 The world doesn't owe Trey s**t. He's a young multimillionaire and will be better off in life than anyone that has ever visited this website. If fans want people to shut up and stop criticizing his play, he needs to play well. It's that simple.