Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Jonny sneaking in as a fan with a message during Larry Krueger's video with Jack Hammer 😄.

"Trey and Kinlaw to the Commanders for Chase Young."

I've been watching many videos for a while now regarding Trey's performance... not so much the obvious click bait videos or TV shows. I will just say I don't know why it's so hard to not look at those first few series as rust. 🤷🏾‍♂️

I've seen Trey in real games... games with tougher situations. I do think Trey is in a lose lose situation starting late in this weeks preseason game. I would still prefer him go against the ones WITH the ones to start the game.

I also think it would be a better showcase if the 9ers are interested in getting any trade offers. Trey putting up stats vs the backup backups won't mean s**t.

It shouldn't matter if he's with the ones or the threes. He just needs to go through his reads and be on time. Show he has some pocket awareness. That shouldn't require the best players around you at all times.

for example, Allen threw a pick last game, but it wasn't a bad play on his part. Anyone with common sense knows he executed the play really well and the WR made a mistake by letting it go through his hands. That's a good play by Allen regardless of the outcome.

then you have Lance who threw a "touchdown" but in reality it was a very bad play by him. Kyle, or any of the coaches, aren't saying "who cares! Scored a touchdown, good job!". It's just a great heads up play by Dwelly (or whoever it is). The stats aren't really important, it's the execution.

trey executed only a couple of plays correctly last week and a majority of them he was terrible. Doesn't matter what unit he's with, he just needs to do his job. No one gives a f**k about winning and losing a pre season game. It's all about showing he can properly execute the plays if he's in.

he could have crappy stats next game but of had a really good game, regardless of the unit. At least by anyone who knows anything about football. This whole "want to see him with the ones" is nonsense, any QB worth anything can still show they know what to do and when do it with whoever around them. Brock did that last year, darnold did it last week, Allen did it last week.

Lance is capable of doing it, just needs to relax and trust what he sees. If he wants everything perfect and nothing except studs around him, then he doesn't belong in the league. I think he will have a much better game this week. At least I hope.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
firm believer that being #3 on the depth chart is better for Trey than #2…

He would be going up against our starting defense as the #2 no? Get more reps than being the #3 as well.

What would be the benefit for being the #3 QB for Trey?

He would run the practice squad each week of the season, getting lots of reps against our #1 defense. If he's number 2 he's game planing and not getting lots of practice reps

Being QB4 is even better. We won't keep 4 QBs on the roster, so he can go anywhere else.

Anyway, QB3 do get reps against our defense, but he still have to game plan as the emergency QB. The issue is if he is QB3, it might be harder for other teams to let him compete for a starting role next season. Other teams have to believe he has a good chance to succeed. Falling to QB3 isn't a good sign.

Even better, lots of reps to let it rip and still game planning as emergency QB. Hard work never goes unpunished :)

Everyone has drummed to the beat that he needs reps, ain't a better way given the situation to get them. Just look at Purdy, he was on the Scout team all last season.

I could care less about optics and more about actually spending every minute available to develop.

Purdy was only QB3 for like a week. He was QB2 a majority of the season - isn't that when he was running scout team? I'm not exactly sure what QB2 does when there are three QBs on the roster.
i was under the impression QB2 ran the scout team and QB3 just helped everyone prepare.

at least I could of swore that Warner said brock was running the scout team as QB2.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
firm believer that being #3 on the depth chart is better for Trey than #2…

He would be going up against our starting defense as the #2 no? Get more reps than being the #3 as well.

What would be the benefit for being the #3 QB for Trey?

He would run the practice squad each week of the season, getting lots of reps against our #1 defense. If he's number 2 he's game planing and not getting lots of practice reps

Being QB4 is even better. We won't keep 4 QBs on the roster, so he can go anywhere else.

Anyway, QB3 do get reps against our defense, but he still have to game plan as the emergency QB. The issue is if he is QB3, it might be harder for other teams to let him compete for a starting role next season. Other teams have to believe he has a good chance to succeed. Falling to QB3 isn't a good sign.

Even better, lots of reps to let it rip and still game planning as emergency QB. Hard work never goes unpunished :)

Everyone has drummed to the beat that he needs reps, ain't a better way given the situation to get them. Just look at Purdy, he was on the Scout team all last season.

I could care less about optics and more about actually spending every minute available to develop.

Purdy was only QB3 for like a week. He was QB2 a majority of the season - isn't that when he was running scout team? I'm not exactly sure what QB2 does when there are three QBs on the roster.
i was under the impression QB2 ran the scout team and QB3 just helped everyone prepare.

at least I could of swore that Warner said he was running the scout team as QB2.

Well which ever position runs scout is ideal. Did we bring Josh Johnson in right away or did we run with 2 QBs until week 14?

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by Shorteous:
firm believer that being #3 on the depth chart is better for Trey than #2…

He would be going up against our starting defense as the #2 no? Get more reps than being the #3 as well.

What would be the benefit for being the #3 QB for Trey?

He would run the practice squad each week of the season, getting lots of reps against our #1 defense. If he's number 2 he's game planing and not getting lots of practice reps

Being QB4 is even better. We won't keep 4 QBs on the roster, so he can go anywhere else.

Anyway, QB3 do get reps against our defense, but he still have to game plan as the emergency QB. The issue is if he is QB3, it might be harder for other teams to let him compete for a starting role next season. Other teams have to believe he has a good chance to succeed. Falling to QB3 isn't a good sign.

Even better, lots of reps to let it rip and still game planning as emergency QB. Hard work never goes unpunished :)

Everyone has drummed to the beat that he needs reps, ain't a better way given the situation to get them. Just look at Purdy, he was on the Scout team all last season.

I could care less about optics and more about actually spending every minute available to develop.

Purdy was only QB3 for like a week. He was QB2 a majority of the season - isn't that when he was running scout team? I'm not exactly sure what QB2 does when there are three QBs on the roster.
i was under the impression QB2 ran the scout team and QB3 just helped everyone prepare.

at least I could of swore that Warner said he was running the scout team as QB2.

Well which ever position runs scout is ideal. Did we bring Josh Johnson in right away or did we run with 2 QBs until week 14?

Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14.

not sure if we'd have QB2 or QB3 run scout team if we keep 3. I figure it'll be QB2 but I also think it would alternate depending on what kind of QB we are facing. For example, Lance is much more mobile so if we are prepping for a more mobile guy, they'd probably have Lance emulate.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Lol knowing Kyle, he would have darnold and Lance split reps with scout team. Hahahah

but I agree, Lance should get more reps that way. He was running scout team his rookie year. Problem was that Lance was sorta just running plays and the defense had to ask him to be more aggressive to get the D more prepared and sharp. That was a huge compliment guys like ward, Warner, bosa etc kept saying about Brock - he played aggressive and to win during scout team, and that helped our defense be better prepared and sharp.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Lol knowing Kyle, he would have darnold and Lance split reps with scout team. Hahahah

but I agree, Lance should get more reps that way. He was running scout team his rookie year. Problem was that Lance was sorta just running plays and the defense had to ask him to be more aggressive to get the D more prepared and sharp. That was a huge compliment guys like ward, Warner, bosa etc kept saying about Brock - he played aggressive and to win during scout team, and that helped our defense be better prepared and sharp.

Lol no doubt they'd be splitting reps 🤣

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Lol knowing Kyle, he would have darnold and Lance split reps with scout team. Hahahah

but I agree, Lance should get more reps that way. He was running scout team his rookie year. Problem was that Lance was sorta just running plays and the defense had to ask him to be more aggressive to get the D more prepared and sharp. That was a huge compliment guys like ward, Warner, bosa etc kept saying about Brock - he played aggressive and to win during scout team, and that helped our defense be better prepared and sharp.

Lol no doubt they'd be splitting reps 🤣

Our defense might take a step back if the scout team QB turn down wide open throws.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:
We really doing this?

His training camp performances have been nothing special in fact lately he's barely gotten any reps if any in team drills. He's getting no time in preseason.

Are we really going to pretend if push came to shove Brandon Allen gives us a better chance to win real games than Trey Lance?

I've always viewed Trey as bad in the short term. The only reason to play him is for potential long term development, but he has a really low floor - his performances have proven that. Even the film review of his performances confirm that.

outside of 1.5 quarters of play against a bottom five team (Texans), his performances have been about as bad as it gets. I genuinely believe that If lance played all year last year - that it's probable we miss the playoffs.

now do I think we should take on allen as QB3 over Lance? Eh Not really. I'm sure we would get decent performance out of allen but we aren't winning the Super Bowl with either, IMO. So might as well keep the young guy unless it's a good offer for him.

but this whole idea that Lance gives us a good chance To win, is based on pure hope. He is still struggling to score in camp. So I think we would have the same issues but maybe he would be improved cause his accuracy improvement.

backups are meant to have high floors incase they need to fill in, so I don't think it's wild to not be comfortable with Lance as the backup because all he's proven so far is that he has a very low floor and still isn't ready. But since we are talking QB3, I'd rather have him be QB3 cause of the potential if he gets better, since if we are down to QB3 again - it's like a 99.9% chance we aren't winning the Super Bowl

He's struggling to score in camp?

[twitter

Comparison of 49ers' QBs in red-zone work this camp...

Brock Purdy: 12-19, 8 TD, 1 INT
Trey Lance: 6-14, 2 TD
Sam Darnold: 6-13, 5 TD
Brandon Allen: 5-6, 2 TD

Purdy and Lance also have a TD run apiece. But Purdy's work here really stands out from the rest of the team's QBs

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 17, 2023

That's just red zone work and probably what you're basing your claim off but issue is context is missing and as camp moves on people forget it and just look at numbers.

There are 2 TDs in the redzone separating Trey and Sam and Trey had several guys drop TD passes including a well documented one vs Raiders in joint practice.

Basically there is no major difference in Trey vs the other guys after Brock.

Also if you're talking about low floors - Darnold is your man. Unless you think Lance has shown a floor comparable to 5/15 43 yards 0 TD 2 INT, 2 fumbles(and that's not even Sam's worst game...just his most recent one)

Considering our defense is a strength I'd say if we were forced into the situation a guy who is hesitant to throw into tight windows early in the game isn't the horror show vs someone who doesn't have the same hesitation but still puts the ball in danger.

I do agree with your last point though. When you're down to QB3 it's unrealistic to expect what happened last season(why Kyle should've won COTY) but if Trey is that guy and god forbid we end up having to play QB3 again then may as well see what he can turn into at that point. Brandon Allen isn't winning you a SB. Trey Lance with experience MAY.

Let me present you the information from David Lombardi's tweet in a better way:
Red-zone work in camp: TD per pass attempt
Brock Purdy: 42%
Sam Darnold: 38%
Brandon Allen: 33%
Trey Lance: 14%
So yeah, Trey looked really bad in the red-zone, struggled to score in camp

By the way, David Lombardi completely disagree with you regarding on the QB floor:

QB2 is a job that's more about a high floor than a high ceiling. And right now it's clear that Sam Darnold had a higher floor than Trey Lance, especially within the context of what Kyle Shanahan runs. Lance is going to have to show much more steadiness next week than he did today

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 13, 2023

You basically bring up David Lombardi's tweet to make your point, later found out the tweet actually doesn't support your argument, more like prove you wrong, and then you s**t about David Lombardi. Weird.

It becomes a lot less weird when you actually read what I wrote. And my stance on Lombardi's reporting, especially how it relates to Lance. It's been on display many times in these threads.

Long story short…read.

You act like Lombardi is anti Trey because you chose to ignore what he says in three plus years of videos in favor of a limited character, no context provided social media cesspool. You said his numbers were inaccurate, but how do you know this? He's the one going to camp every day? Is it just because the numbers arent what you want to see from Trey? He has been pro Trey probably longer than you have, since before the trade up happened, I think. I remember that watching his videos on the draft prospects that year is what sold me on Trey when I didn't think that anyone but Lawrence was even close to being worth the number three pick we traded so much for, and even Lawrence was pushing that, in my opinion.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Lol knowing Kyle, he would have darnold and Lance split reps with scout team. Hahahah

but I agree, Lance should get more reps that way. He was running scout team his rookie year. Problem was that Lance was sorta just running plays and the defense had to ask him to be more aggressive to get the D more prepared and sharp. That was a huge compliment guys like ward, Warner, bosa etc kept saying about Brock - he played aggressive and to win during scout team, and that helped our defense be better prepared and sharp.

Lol no doubt they'd be splitting reps 🤣

Our defense might take a step back if the scout team QB turn down wide open throws.

We make jokes about it but it's a serious issue. Lol. Not just with Lance, but scout team QBs in general. You want someone who actually tries to dice up the defense and is aggressive, attempts tough passes and puts pressure on the defense to perform.

According to some of our players - guys will just try run the play and hit whatever is easy or open (usually dump offs and underneath stuff) and not attempt tight window stuff or push it deep.

it's really a loss for everyone cause the QB doesn't really push himself and get better and the defense isn't being pushed to perform at their best, it's a lose lose. Like I said, Brock was raved about by our starting defense by how he approached being scout team and how he attacked the defense in camp, it's the same way he attacks now. It's how you push yourself to get better as a QB and push the defense to get better

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by genus49:
We really doing this?

His training camp performances have been nothing special in fact lately he's barely gotten any reps if any in team drills. He's getting no time in preseason.

Are we really going to pretend if push came to shove Brandon Allen gives us a better chance to win real games than Trey Lance?

I've always viewed Trey as bad in the short term. The only reason to play him is for potential long term development, but he has a really low floor - his performances have proven that. Even the film review of his performances confirm that.

outside of 1.5 quarters of play against a bottom five team (Texans), his performances have been about as bad as it gets. I genuinely believe that If lance played all year last year - that it's probable we miss the playoffs.

now do I think we should take on allen as QB3 over Lance? Eh Not really. I'm sure we would get decent performance out of allen but we aren't winning the Super Bowl with either, IMO. So might as well keep the young guy unless it's a good offer for him.

but this whole idea that Lance gives us a good chance To win, is based on pure hope. He is still struggling to score in camp. So I think we would have the same issues but maybe he would be improved cause his accuracy improvement.

backups are meant to have high floors incase they need to fill in, so I don't think it's wild to not be comfortable with Lance as the backup because all he's proven so far is that he has a very low floor and still isn't ready. But since we are talking QB3, I'd rather have him be QB3 cause of the potential if he gets better, since if we are down to QB3 again - it's like a 99.9% chance we aren't winning the Super Bowl

He's struggling to score in camp?

[twitter

Comparison of 49ers' QBs in red-zone work this camp...

Brock Purdy: 12-19, 8 TD, 1 INT
Trey Lance: 6-14, 2 TD
Sam Darnold: 6-13, 5 TD
Brandon Allen: 5-6, 2 TD

Purdy and Lance also have a TD run apiece. But Purdy's work here really stands out from the rest of the team's QBs

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 17, 2023

That's just red zone work and probably what you're basing your claim off but issue is context is missing and as camp moves on people forget it and just look at numbers.

There are 2 TDs in the redzone separating Trey and Sam and Trey had several guys drop TD passes including a well documented one vs Raiders in joint practice.

Basically there is no major difference in Trey vs the other guys after Brock.

Also if you're talking about low floors - Darnold is your man. Unless you think Lance has shown a floor comparable to 5/15 43 yards 0 TD 2 INT, 2 fumbles(and that's not even Sam's worst game...just his most recent one)

Considering our defense is a strength I'd say if we were forced into the situation a guy who is hesitant to throw into tight windows early in the game isn't the horror show vs someone who doesn't have the same hesitation but still puts the ball in danger.

I do agree with your last point though. When you're down to QB3 it's unrealistic to expect what happened last season(why Kyle should've won COTY) but if Trey is that guy and god forbid we end up having to play QB3 again then may as well see what he can turn into at that point. Brandon Allen isn't winning you a SB. Trey Lance with experience MAY.

Let me present you the information from David Lombardi's tweet in a better way:
Red-zone work in camp: TD per pass attempt
Brock Purdy: 42%
Sam Darnold: 38%
Brandon Allen: 33%
Trey Lance: 14%
So yeah, Trey looked really bad in the red-zone, struggled to score in camp

By the way, David Lombardi completely disagree with you regarding on the QB floor:

QB2 is a job that's more about a high floor than a high ceiling. And right now it's clear that Sam Darnold had a higher floor than Trey Lance, especially within the context of what Kyle Shanahan runs. Lance is going to have to show much more steadiness next week than he did today

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 13, 2023

You basically bring up David Lombardi's tweet to make your point, later found out the tweet actually doesn't support your argument, more like prove you wrong, and then you s**t about David Lombardi. Weird.

It becomes a lot less weird when you actually read what I wrote. And my stance on Lombardi's reporting, especially how it relates to Lance. It's been on display many times in these threads.

Long story short…read.

You act like Lombardi is anti Trey because you chose to ignore what he says in three plus years of videos in favor of a limited character, no context provided social media cesspool. You said his numbers were inaccurate, but how do you know this? He's the one going to camp every day? Is it just because the numbers arent what you want to see from Trey? He has been pro Trey probably longer than you have, since before the trade up happened, I think. I remember that watching his videos on the draft prospects that year is what sold me on Trey when I didn't think that anyone but Lawrence was even close to being worth the number three pick we traded so much for, and even Lawrence was pushing that, in my opinion.

We doing this again? His numbers aren't accurate because in 9 out of 10 reports they're one thing and Lombardi is the outlier and it's always for Lance in a worse light and never the other way.

Dude was front and center with his spreadsheet and then it's nowhere to be found and access is locked once Brock started throwing picks left and right(not that I care about them just shows suddenly he doesn't want to flaunt his spreadsheets)

I don't care about the videos you keep blabbering on about. More people see his tweets than his videos. People are constantly calling him on his bias the last few seasons. He may have talked about taking Lance but it didn't change anything else. It's pretty clear if you don't have your head buried in the sand.

He only adds context when it helps Brock or Darnold but same context is somehow missing when other reporters say something good for Trey.

So yes I don't trust his numbers without the added context and even that context just from him has been suspect lately. And the same crap goes for Grant in the opposite direction.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Lol knowing Kyle, he would have darnold and Lance split reps with scout team. Hahahah

but I agree, Lance should get more reps that way. He was running scout team his rookie year. Problem was that Lance was sorta just running plays and the defense had to ask him to be more aggressive to get the D more prepared and sharp. That was a huge compliment guys like ward, Warner, bosa etc kept saying about Brock - he played aggressive and to win during scout team, and that helped our defense be better prepared and sharp.

Lol no doubt they'd be splitting reps 🤣

Our defense might take a step back if the scout team QB turn down wide open throws.

We make jokes about it but it's a serious issue. Lol. Not just with Lance, but scout team QBs in general. You want someone who actually tries to dice up the defense and is aggressive, attempts tough passes and puts pressure on the defense to perform.

According to some of our players - guys will just try run the play and hit whatever is easy or open (usually dump offs and underneath stuff) and not attempt tight window stuff or push it deep.

it's really a loss for everyone cause the QB doesn't really push himself and get better and the defense isn't being pushed to perform at their best, it's a lose lose. Like I said, Brock was raved about by our starting defense by how he approached being scout team and how he attacked the defense in camp, it's the same way he attacks now. It's how you push yourself to get better as a QB and push the defense to get better

Hopefully that changes and you're right saying it needs to

So much discussion for a guy that won't let the ball go unless he has 4 seconds. Lol. He isn't an NFL QB.

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Lol knowing Kyle, he would have darnold and Lance split reps with scout team. Hahahah

but I agree, Lance should get more reps that way. He was running scout team his rookie year. Problem was that Lance was sorta just running plays and the defense had to ask him to be more aggressive to get the D more prepared and sharp. That was a huge compliment guys like ward, Warner, bosa etc kept saying about Brock - he played aggressive and to win during scout team, and that helped our defense be better prepared and sharp.

Lol no doubt they'd be splitting reps 🤣

Our defense might take a step back if the scout team QB turn down wide open throws.

We make jokes about it but it's a serious issue. Lol. Not just with Lance, but scout team QBs in general. You want someone who actually tries to dice up the defense and is aggressive, attempts tough passes and puts pressure on the defense to perform.

According to some of our players - guys will just try run the play and hit whatever is easy or open (usually dump offs and underneath stuff) and not attempt tight window stuff or push it deep.

it's really a loss for everyone cause the QB doesn't really push himself and get better and the defense isn't being pushed to perform at their best, it's a lose lose. Like I said, Brock was raved about by our starting defense by how he approached being scout team and how he attacked the defense in camp, it's the same way he attacks now. It's how you push yourself to get better as a QB and push the defense to get better

Hopefully that changes and you're right saying it needs to

Idk if someone can change that. I think you're either aggressive and Uber competitive or you're not. I feel like that part of playing sports is based on your personality, idk it can really be changed, you know? I think most things as a QB cAn be worked on and improved, but it's not like Lance is going to one day have some super fiery, aggressive, ultra competitiveness to his game. There is a difference between being competitive and wanting to win at all cost. Like I don't think Lance is going to all of a sudden become competitive like Mahomes or Brady are, I think it's just part of who you are with your personality.

i think being ultra competitive and willing to do whatever it takes to win at all cost is a rare trait that not many QBs have, and I think if you don't have it, you're built more to be a game manager. That's my opinion. He's too passive and not aggressive enough.

maybe I'm wrong, time will tell, but I think it's extremely unlikely he all of a sudden becomes Uber aggressive and competitive if he isn't already.

shanahan has talked at length how he wants Trey to be more aggressive. I just don't think that's his personality as a football player.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like we signed Josh Johnson on Dec 6. Then we just ran with those two. So Josh def ran scout team when he was here at QB2.

last year we only ran with 2 QBs all season outside of the first two weeks. So Jimmy and Brock from week 3-14

I'm pretty sure it's the lowest QB on the depth chart. If you have 3 QBs you want 1 and 2 preparing for the opponent and 3 getting the defense prepared.

Lol knowing Kyle, he would have darnold and Lance split reps with scout team. Hahahah

but I agree, Lance should get more reps that way. He was running scout team his rookie year. Problem was that Lance was sorta just running plays and the defense had to ask him to be more aggressive to get the D more prepared and sharp. That was a huge compliment guys like ward, Warner, bosa etc kept saying about Brock - he played aggressive and to win during scout team, and that helped our defense be better prepared and sharp.

Lol no doubt they'd be splitting reps 🤣

Our defense might take a step back if the scout team QB turn down wide open throws.

We make jokes about it but it's a serious issue. Lol. Not just with Lance, but scout team QBs in general. You want someone who actually tries to dice up the defense and is aggressive, attempts tough passes and puts pressure on the defense to perform.

According to some of our players - guys will just try run the play and hit whatever is easy or open (usually dump offs and underneath stuff) and not attempt tight window stuff or push it deep.

it's really a loss for everyone cause the QB doesn't really push himself and get better and the defense isn't being pushed to perform at their best, it's a lose lose. Like I said, Brock was raved about by our starting defense by how he approached being scout team and how he attacked the defense in camp, it's the same way he attacks now. It's how you push yourself to get better as a QB and push the defense to get better

Hopefully that changes and you're right saying it needs to

Idk if someone can change that. I think you're either aggressive and Uber competitive or you're not. I feel like that part of playing sports is based on your personality, idk it can really be changed, you know? I think most things as a QB cAn be worked on and improved, but it's not like Lance is going to one day have some super fiery, aggressive, ultra competitiveness to his game. There is a difference between being competitive and wanting to win at all cost. Like I don't think Lance is going to all of a sudden become competitive like Mahomes or Brady are, I think it's just part of who you are with your personality.

i think being ultra competitive and willing to do whatever it takes to win at all cost is a rare trait that not many QBs have, and I think if you don't have it, you're built more to be a game manager. That's my opinion. He's too passive and not aggressive enough.

maybe I'm wrong, time will tell, but I think it's extremely unlikely he all of a sudden becomes Uber aggressive and competitive if he isn't already.

You are just posting stuff that the defense didn't say. Provide a link instead of acting like you know what you are talking about. It is getting old and you sound stupid