Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by boast:
what do you mean we'd have to sign someone? Allen would be QB3 and the team would have the ability to retain a bubble player already on the roster. salary cap carryover is also a thing. gotta start thinking about retaining Aiyuk.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by boast:
i dont believe Trey would ever get cut. however i do believe there's like a 10% chance he could be moved if the opportunity arises if Trey cant supplant Sam. $10M for QB3 is a lot of money. and even if the savings is half that, i could still see the team explore the option. again, $10M for QB3.

Does that % chance you have of Trey being moved equate to a 90% chance you think Trey has of beating out for Brandon Allen for a spot?

it means 90% chance Trey doesnt get traded

Yea and is where on the depth chart? 4th on the scout team? Please finish the thought.

uhhh poor reading comprehension? maybe reread my initial post above and you'll see.

So Your 90% bet is on Trey being QB3. Clarified. Thank you kindly sir.

"if Trey can't supplant Sam"

We are tight on the cap, especially next year, but I'd be surprised if Trey is moved for salary savings reasons. I kinda see him only being moved if the team really likes the offer. I think the team would rather have his depth than the $5M. We would have to sign someone anyways and odds are it would be a few mil for a decent guy anyway. Just my thought

what do you mean we'd have to sign someone? Allen would be QB3 and the team would have the ability to retain a bubble player already on the roster. salary cap carryover is also a thing. gotta start thinking about retaining Aiyuk.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by boast:
what do you mean we'd have to sign someone? Allen would be QB3 and the team would have the ability to retain a bubble player already on the roster. salary cap carryover is also a thing. gotta start thinking about retaining Aiyuk.

If Brock stays healthy and plays well, I think it's highly unlikely we spend any money we don't have to on the backup position. We'd take the usual approach teams take with an established QB1. Wouldn't expect either Lance or Darnold to be on the roster.

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Hmm why not darnold? $3.5-$7M is the range for most quality back ups. It's funny cause darnold is going to be back to back highest paid backup in the league last year and this year.

i just don't think we go with two well paid backups next year. I'd rather have a vet and then a young cheap guy

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Hmm why not darnold? $3.5-$7M is the range for most quality back ups. It's funny cause darnold is going to be back to back highest paid backup in the league last year and this year.

i just don't think we go with two well paid backups next year. I'd rather have a vet and then a young cheap guy

I would assume there's a good chance Darnold would want to move on if our QB1 is established.

If not though, I still can't see us spending that kind of money on a backup. I think we only spent on backups the last two years because of uncertainty around Trey's ability and Brock's health.

I think the plan going forward would look more like it did at the beginning of last season… where we spent 2 million on Sudfeld and drafted a guy late.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by boast:
what do you mean we'd have to sign someone? Allen would be QB3 and the team would have the ability to retain a bubble player already on the roster. salary cap carryover is also a thing. gotta start thinking about retaining Aiyuk.

If Brock stays healthy and plays well, I think it's highly unlikely we spend any money we don't have to on the backup position. We'd take the usual approach teams take with an established QB1. Wouldn't expect either Lance or Darnold to be on the roster.

Hmm why not darnold? $3.5-$7M is the range for most quality back ups. It's funny cause darnold is going to be back to back highest paid backup in the league last year and this year.

i just don't think we go with two well paid backups next year. I'd rather have a vet and then a young cheap guy

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

I think Trey is at a disadvantage because we know what Sam is and isn't, what positions to put him in to do well and what to keep him out of - since he has so much film. Fortunately, what he does well, is kind of our bread and butter. We don't know what Trey can and can't do consistently, I'm not saying he can't do certain things - just looking at it from a coaches perspective, know what's Sam is and isn't brings comfort. Makes it much easier to put together a good game plan, IMO.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

I think Trey is at a disadvantage because we know what Sam is and isn't, what positions to put him in to do well and what to keep him out of - since he has so much film. Fortunately, what he does well, is kind of our bread and butter. We don't know what Trey can and can't do consistently, I'm not saying he can't do certain things - just looking at it from a coaches perspective, know what's Sam is and isn't brings comfort. Makes it much easier to put together a good game plan, IMO.

Lol the only thing Sam has been consistent at is consistently being trash.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

I think Trey is at a disadvantage because we know what Sam is and isn't, what positions to put him in to do well and what to keep him out of - since he has so much film. Fortunately, what he does well, is kind of our bread and butter. We don't know what Trey can and can't do consistently, I'm not saying he can't do certain things - just looking at it from a coaches perspective, know what's Sam is and isn't brings comfort. Makes it much easier to put together a good game plan, IMO.

Lol the only thing Sam has been consistent at is consistently being trash.

Then I guess Sam Darnold was inconsistent last year going 4-2 to end the season.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

I think Trey is at a disadvantage because we know what Sam is and isn't, what positions to put him in to do well and what to keep him out of - since he has so much film. Fortunately, what he does well, is kind of our bread and butter. We don't know what Trey can and can't do consistently, I'm not saying he can't do certain things - just looking at it from a coaches perspective, know what's Sam is and isn't brings comfort. Makes it much easier to put together a good game plan, IMO.

Lol the only thing Sam has been consistent at is consistently being trash.

Then I guess Sam Darnold was inconsistent last year going 4-2 to end the season.

He won some meaningless games against a couple bad teams. He was also just okay in those games. Sam isn't the answer. I live in Charlotte and listen to the local sports radio a lot, him and Rhule were constantly getting trashed.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

I think Trey is at a disadvantage because we know what Sam is and isn't, what positions to put him in to do well and what to keep him out of - since he has so much film. Fortunately, what he does well, is kind of our bread and butter. We don't know what Trey can and can't do consistently, I'm not saying he can't do certain things - just looking at it from a coaches perspective, know what's Sam is and isn't brings comfort. Makes it much easier to put together a good game plan, IMO.

Lol the only thing Sam has been consistent at is consistently being trash.

Then I guess Sam Darnold was inconsistent last year going 4-2 to end the season.

He won some meaningless games against a couple bad teams. He was also just okay in those games. Sam isn't the answer. I live in Charlotte and listen to the local sports radio a lot, him and Rhule were constantly getting trashed.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

I think Trey is at a disadvantage because we know what Sam is and isn't, what positions to put him in to do well and what to keep him out of - since he has so much film. Fortunately, what he does well, is kind of our bread and butter. We don't know what Trey can and can't do consistently, I'm not saying he can't do certain things - just looking at it from a coaches perspective, know what's Sam is and isn't brings comfort. Makes it much easier to put together a good game plan, IMO.

Lol the only thing Sam has been consistent at is consistently being trash.

Then I guess Sam Darnold was inconsistent last year going 4-2 to end the season.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Goatie:
Trey is better than Mullens or CJ but is not as consistent as Darnold. Kyle wants a back up who can come in if Purdy is injured for a game or two and can run the system without changing the game plan. Darnold is more suited to that than Trey because of his consistency and not needing time to warm up when thrown in the game.

I think Trey is at a disadvantage because we know what Sam is and isn't, what positions to put him in to do well and what to keep him out of - since he has so much film. Fortunately, what he does well, is kind of our bread and butter. We don't know what Trey can and can't do consistently, I'm not saying he can't do certain things - just looking at it from a coaches perspective, know what's Sam is and isn't brings comfort. Makes it much easier to put together a good game plan, IMO.

Lol the only thing Sam has been consistent at is consistently being trash.

Then I guess Sam Darnold was inconsistent last year going 4-2 to end the season.

Lol that's what you going use to argue his inconsistency? Cherry pick 6 games from his entire career? Brah honestly you crack me up with some of your posts sometimes. You do know why it's "to end the season" right? Because he lost the starting job to Baker Mayfield. And if the 4-2 was because of him, why didn't they want him back?