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Originally posted by prospector49:
How many people that actually know football need to say it, before it sinks in with the Trey fan club?

Taking 300 snaps since high school, playing in a mid level high school program, playing one year in college against random competition in a random conference in a non-pro style offense, then taking a year off and then declaring for the draft does not set one up for success.

He was way more raw than even the 49ers thought he would be, then he has been injury prone, and he is way behind. He is never going to be elite, he may be good with lots more reps, but we have other QBs that are better and the 49ers are not a developmental league.

Time to live in reality.

That's the prob, you need be able to play in this league. The only developmental league is college, USFL, XFL, or the Arizona Cardinals.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by prospector49:
How many people that actually know football need to say it, before it sinks in with the Trey fan club?

Taking 300 snaps since high school, playing in a mid level high school program, playing one year in college against random competition in a random conference in a non-pro style offense, then taking a year off and then declaring for the draft does not set one up for success.

He was way more raw than even the 49ers thought he would be, then he has been injury prone, and he is way behind. He is never going to be elite, he may be good with lots more reps, but we have other QBs that are better and the 49ers are not a developmental league.

Time to live in reality.

That's the prob, you need be able to play in this league. The only developmental league is college, USFL, XFL, or the Arizona Cardinals.

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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
That's the prob, you need be able to play in this league. The only developmental league is college, USFL, XFL, or the Arizona Cardinals.



That was brutal.
Originally posted by prospector49:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by boast:
Steve Young just said "Trey will never be an elite thrower of the football" on Eisen just now

1) Please share the reasons given,....if any? Or is it just an attention grabber, given the age we live in?

2) I think we can all agree he's not going to be Steve Young, Drew Brees, or Tom Brady. (Edit: and even then, we'd just be guessing, because he's inexperienced)

But is Lamar Jackson an elite throw of the football? Was Steve McNair? Rich Gannon? Because they all have MVP trophies anyway.

I love Steve but if I'm honest with myself,...he's just a mouthpiece these days. I'll take his input right after games have been played and he's sharing what he observed.

Jerry Rice is the greatest WR ever but he's another one where I'll skip over most of his input if I'm looking for analysis.

How many people that actually know football need to say it, before it sinks in with the Trey fan club?

Taking 300 snaps since high school, playing in a mid level high school program, playing one year in college against random competition in a random conference in a non-pro style offense, then taking a year off and then declaring for the draft does not set one up for success.

He was way more raw than even the 49ers thought he would be, then he has been injury prone, and he is way behind. He does not even have the elite physical traits that many dreamed he would have, he is not accurate, not quick or elusive, he regularly gets caught by defensive lineman at the line of scrimmage. He does not have touch or accuracy, all he has is a strong arm, which means nothing in the NFL without touch and accuracy. He is never going to be elite, he may be good with lots more reps, but we have other QBs that are better and the 49ers are not a developmental league.

Time to live in reality.

An overwhelming majority of people "Trey Fan Club" are simply saying its too early to make definitive statements about his future. I mean seriously. Who are you fighting with? Trey doesnt have a cult fanbase on this board. Most people just want him to be given a chance before he is labeled.


Originally posted by boast:
Steve Young just said "Trey will never be an elite thrower of the football" on Eisen just now

Steve Young weighs in the truth bomb right to the feels, but a few of us already knew this for quite some time.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by prospector49:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by boast:
Steve Young just said "Trey will never be an elite thrower of the football" on Eisen just now

1) Please share the reasons given,....if any? Or is it just an attention grabber, given the age we live in?

2) I think we can all agree he's not going to be Steve Young, Drew Brees, or Tom Brady. (Edit: and even then, we'd just be guessing, because he's inexperienced)

But is Lamar Jackson an elite throw of the football? Was Steve McNair? Rich Gannon? Because they all have MVP trophies anyway.

I love Steve but if I'm honest with myself,...he's just a mouthpiece these days. I'll take his input right after games have been played and he's sharing what he observed.

Jerry Rice is the greatest WR ever but he's another one where I'll skip over most of his input if I'm looking for analysis.

How many people that actually know football need to say it, before it sinks in with the Trey fan club?

Taking 300 snaps since high school, playing in a mid level high school program, playing one year in college against random competition in a random conference in a non-pro style offense, then taking a year off and then declaring for the draft does not set one up for success.

He was way more raw than even the 49ers thought he would be, then he has been injury prone, and he is way behind. He does not even have the elite physical traits that many dreamed he would have, he is not accurate, not quick or elusive, he regularly gets caught by defensive lineman at the line of scrimmage. He does not have touch or accuracy, all he has is a strong arm, which means nothing in the NFL without touch and accuracy. He is never going to be elite, he may be good with lots more reps, but we have other QBs that are better and the 49ers are not a developmental league.

Time to live in reality.

An overwhelming majority of people "Trey Fan Club" are simply saying its too early to make definitive statements about his future. I mean seriously. Who are you fighting with? Trey doesnt have a cult fanbase on this board. Most people just want him to be given a chance before he is labeled.

I am disagreeing with the people that say he needs playing time or needs to be given a chance.

Does he need time or does he need reps, which is it? It has been 3 years. Prior to that, Trey did not prepare himself in college, and came in clearly more raw than the 49ers expected him to be. He has not developed as they thought, and he has been injury prone. Clearly, he has not shown the coaches what they need to see in practice. And yet, many want to see Trey as the #2 QB, which he is clearly not, and some even want him as QB1, so he can "get more reps" so we can see if he develops or not. Yet, there are many on this thread who still say that Trey "has a higher ceiling" than even Brock, if we just give the ball over to Trey to see what he can do, because Trey hasn't been given the opportunity or the chance to develop into the high ceiling, elite QB that he is deep down inside, that no one except his fans can see.

Based on what? Again, the 49ers are not a developmental league. We are a team running for the Super Bowl, and Trey's midlevel, raw talent is taking up a spot on the roster. He's been given plenty of chances, and it's time to move on for the good of both the 49ers and Trey.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
An overwhelming majority of people "Trey Fan Club" are simply saying its too early to make definitive statements about his future. I mean seriously. Who are you fighting with? Trey doesnt have a cult fanbase on this board. Most people just want him to be given a chance before he is labeled.

Here is a definitive future statement, his contract is up after next season. He will enter his year 3 as a backup. I think that alone, that he's in year 3 of 4, and we invested 3 ones for a backup, means this is a bust.
Originally posted by boast:
Steve Young just said "Trey will never be an elite thrower of the football" on Eisen just now

TBH, this is quite obvious to many of us who aren't delusional or biased
I know it's Cohn reposting but it's not him saying it... 👀 Agree or disagree?


I don't think I agree about Brock. I think Purdy does have this ability. IDK about Sam though.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Aug 23, 2023 at 11:07 AM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


lol disagree, neither Sam or BP have what ability, is he talking about? The ability to suck for a few series then start gradually improving? Is that an ability?

'They will never be able to figure out Trey'

I don't think SF can figure out Trey. Other teams don't have a problem, I mean half the time you can leave em wide open, and he will turn em down. We have to figure out why that is, our opponents don't, they'll happily take it. This is delusional.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


lol disagree, neither Sam or BP have what ability, is he talking about? The ability to suck for a few series then start gradually improving? Is that an ability?

'They will never be able to figure out Trey'

I don't think SF can figure out Trey. Other teams don't have a problem, I mean half the time you can leave em wide open, and he will turn em down. We have to figure out why that is, our opponents don't, they'll happily take it. This is delusional.

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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
An overwhelming majority of people "Trey Fan Club" are simply saying its too early to make definitive statements about his future. I mean seriously. Who are you fighting with? Trey doesnt have a cult fanbase on this board. Most people just want him to be given a chance before he is labeled.

I have no issue with that idea, I just would argue that he was given a chance and he got injured almost immediately, which is a shame and no one's fault.

at this point, I just don't want to see him in over Purdy unless Purdy proves he isn't the guy. I think the team is making the right choice by starting Purdy and giving him the reps.

I like the improvements Lance has made this off season, i still haven't questions, but he's taking the right steps and that's all you can ask for. I'm eager to see him against the chargers and how he does - I think it'll be very telling of where he actually is - how does he do against second team unit who's "game planned" (they do that this week to simulate a regular season week).
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn reposting but it's not him saying it... 👀 Agree or disagree?


I don't think I agree about Brock. I think Purdy does have this ability. IDK about Sam though.

I agree with the statement about Lance starting out slow then looking better, but overall I don't think the author of that post knows what he's talking about. I think the reason why Lance starts slow then looks better is that he needs to reacquaint himself with game speed each time he steps on the field due to him being inexperienced.
I don't agree with anything the author said about Brock.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


Trey played better in the 2nd half against the Texans, but that was pretty much it. It would be stupid to take the the preseason game as data point to prove this point. One regular season game doesn't prove anything. You can also argue one of Trey's many weakness is that he starts slow.

It is also ridiculous to argued Brock got figured out at this point. He hasn't lose a game except against the Eagles.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn reposting but it's not him saying it... 👀 Agree or disagree?


I don't think I agree about Brock. I think Purdy does have this ability. IDK about Sam though.

The comment is absolutely insane. It's parody level*
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Aug 23, 2023 at 11:19 AM ]
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