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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn reposting but it's not him saying it... 👀 Agree or disagree?


I don't think I agree about Brock. I think Purdy does have this ability. IDK about Sam though.

I agree with the statement about Lance starting out slow then looking better, but overall I don't think the author of that post knows what he's talking about. I think the reason why Lance starts slow then looks better is that he needs to reacquaint himself with game speed each time he steps on the field due to him being inexperienced.
I don't agree with anything the author said about Brock.

This is my feeling too. I thought it was nice post for discussion, but not entirely accurate.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Trey played better in the 2nd half against the Texans, but that was pretty much it. It would be stupid to take the the preseason game as data point to prove this point. One regular season game doesn't prove anything. You can also argue one of Trey's many weakness is that he starts slow.

It is also ridiculous to argued Brock got figured out at this point. He hasn't lose a game except against the Eagles.

I don't think this is an 'ability' as that guy claims lol.. it's a problem. Almost like he thinks this is Madden or 2K and TL has the Slow Starter ability badge. And it's a good thing. Can't make this stuff up folks.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
An overwhelming majority of people "Trey Fan Club" are simply saying its too early to make definitive statements about his future. I mean seriously. Who are you fighting with? Trey doesnt have a cult fanbase on this board. Most people just want him to be given a chance before he is labeled.

Here is a definitive future statement, his contract is up after next season. He will enter his year 3 as a backup. I think that alone, that he's in year 3 of 4, and we invested 3 ones for a backup, means this is a bust.

I think the trade up and selection have been a bust, but I wouldn't call Trey a bust at this point. Both can be true.

what the team tried to achieve with the trade up and selection, which was a young cheap QB playing and developing, has mainly passed. We've got essentially nothing for that entire move and that isn't what you expect for that kind of trade and high of a draft selection. You want guys who are stars in the league in the top 5 and produce for you on the rookie contract.

but I wouldn't call Trey a bust, as a player, right now. He hasn't been able to play enough to know that. Need to see him go through a season or two.

for example, i think selecting Alex smith at one was a bust. We never really got what you'd expect out of a #1 overall pick qb, but Alex smith could still play in the league. So the selection, and what you expect to get from it, was a bust. But I wouldn't say Alex smith himself was a bust. He was a quality player in this league, eventually.

it's two different things to me.
1) does the player meet your expectations for where you selected them.
2) can the guys play at a certain level in this league to be serviceable
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


lol disagree, neither Sam or BP have what ability, is he talking about? The ability to suck for a few series then start gradually improving? Is that an ability?

'They will never be able to figure out Trey'

I don't think SF can figure out Trey. Other teams don't have a problem, I mean half the time you can leave em wide open, and he will turn em down. We have to figure out why that is, our opponents don't, they'll happily take it. This is delusional.

I love the way Grant Cohn and others say the 49ers need to "figure out how to get Trey to improve". What planet do they live on? It is up to Trey to respond to training, to be prepared, and to actually have the talent that he was hyped to have when he was chosen using 3 first round picks. This is the NFL and he is making millions of dollars, and not playing well. Sorry, the 49ers do not have to get into his head and unlock his "high ceiling". Then can just make him QB 3 this year, leave it up to him like it is to every other NFL player to improve and have a career in the NFL, and if he doesn't then just trade him or cut him next year.
Originally posted by tankle104:
I think the trade up and selection have been a bust, but I wouldn't call Trey a bust at this point. Both can be true.

what the team tried to achieve with the trade up and selection, which was a young cheap QB playing and developing, has mainly passed. We've got essentially nothing for that entire move and that isn't what you expect for that kind of trade and high of a draft selection. You want guys who are stars in the league in the top 5 and produce for you on the rookie contract.

but I wouldn't call Trey a bust, as a player, right now. He hasn't been able to play enough to know that. Need to see him go through a season or two.

for example, i think selecting Alex smith at one was a bust. We never really got what you'd expect out of a #1 overall pick qb, but Alex smith could still play in the league. So the selection, and what you expect to get from it, was a bust. But I wouldn't say Alex smith himself was a bust. He was a quality player in this league, eventually.

it's two different things to me.
1) does the player meet your expectations for where you selected them.
2) can the guys play at a certain level in this league to be serviceable

Bust and disappointment aren't the same things but are used interchangeably.

Alex was a disappointment. Druckenmiller was a bust.
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


lol disagree, neither Sam or BP have what ability, is he talking about? The ability to suck for a few series then start gradually improving? Is that an ability?

'They will never be able to figure out Trey'

I don't think SF can figure out Trey. Other teams don't have a problem, I mean half the time you can leave em wide open, and he will turn em down. We have to figure out why that is, our opponents don't, they'll happily take it. This is delusional.

So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.

Originally posted by Furlow:
So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.


It's bonkers. Completely detached from reality, and a remedial understanding of football.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


lol disagree, neither Sam or BP have what ability, is he talking about? The ability to suck for a few series then start gradually improving? Is that an ability?

'They will never be able to figure out Trey'

I don't think SF can figure out Trey. Other teams don't have a problem, I mean half the time you can leave em wide open, and he will turn em down. We have to figure out why that is, our opponents don't, they'll happily take it. This is delusional.

So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.


Dr Evil is still one of my favorite characters ever. Lmao dude cracks me up. I was watching some old clips on YouTube the other day and died laughing.

I was watching Austin powers, scary movie 2, and playing GTA in elementary school - and people wonder why I'm effed in the head. Hahahaha
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.


It's bonkers. Completely detached from reality, and a remedial understanding of football.

I mean it was just a comment so it's fine if some random fan thinks that, no harm no foul. For Cohn to quote that and repost it though, lol what an idiot.
Originally posted by Furlow:
I mean it was just a comment so it's fine if some random fan thinks that, no harm no foul. For Cohn to quote that and repost it though, lol what an idiot.

Cohn knows what he's doing I bet. Just stirring the pot as usual.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.


It's bonkers. Completely detached from reality, and a remedial understanding of football.

completely tarded... TL might be doing this but he is certainly not coached to do this, and he isn't doing this on purpose... it's just another attempt to cover up his mediocre talent
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.


It's bonkers. Completely detached from reality, and a remedial understanding of football.

I mean it was just a comment so it's fine if some random fan thinks that, no harm no foul. For Cohn to quote that and repost it though, lol what an idiot.

What's funny is back in the playoffs, Cohn was praising Purdy and saying how he was a legit QB etc etc. now in the off season, with no new material, he stirs it up with this stuff. He knows what he is doing, he's just trying to drive business. I'm sure he looks at his screen and just laughs at all this sfuff.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


lol disagree, neither Sam or BP have what ability, is he talking about? The ability to suck for a few series then start gradually improving? Is that an ability?

'They will never be able to figure out Trey'

I don't think SF can figure out Trey. Other teams don't have a problem, I mean half the time you can leave em wide open, and he will turn em down. We have to figure out why that is, our opponents don't, they'll happily take it. This is delusional.

So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.


Dr Evil is still one of my favorite characters ever. Lmao dude cracks me up. I was watching some old clips on YouTube the other day and died laughing.

I was watching Austin powers, scary movie 2, and playing GTA in elementary school - and people wonder why I'm effed in the head. Hahahaha

That's not abnormal lol
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I know it's Cohn but... 👀 Agree or disagree?


lol disagree, neither Sam or BP have what ability, is he talking about? The ability to suck for a few series then start gradually improving? Is that an ability?

'They will never be able to figure out Trey'

I don't think SF can figure out Trey. Other teams don't have a problem, I mean half the time you can leave em wide open, and he will turn em down. We have to figure out why that is, our opponents don't, they'll happily take it. This is delusional.

So Trey is intentionally passing up on wide open WR's to "read the defense and see where weaknesses and strengths are." So that he can later take advantage of those weaknesses. And neither Purdy nor Darnold can do that.


Dr Evil is still one of my favorite characters ever. Lmao dude cracks me up. I was watching some old clips on YouTube the other day and died laughing.

I was watching Austin powers, scary movie 2, and playing GTA in elementary school - and people wonder why I'm effed in the head. Hahahaha

That's not abnormal lol

If my parents actually knew what was in those movies/games at the time, no way I'd of been allowed. Hahah
Can we make, if there isn't one already, A thread regarding who we think will be traded on the roster cut down? We are very deep on some of our positions and I anticipate we will trade some guys instead of cutting them. Get a few late round picks.

i also think we will make some sort of trade for better o line depth. Would be cool to have a thread like that as roster cut down is near. - sorry if it exists, I couldn't find it

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