Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Shorteous:
I'd say more a question about evaluating QBs

This is the product of not having a traditional GM, or a HC who is the defacto GM.

We don't properly assess value in our picks. They've still been really good overall.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Front office handled this horribly.

Unless they think Sam Darnold could be a long term answer.... which is tough to bet on.

Imo they let leakage spread and didn't nip things in the butt. (Maybe on purpose)

But we should have played things off and kept Trey one more season until we knew for sure about Brock. See how team adjust to him this season, and how Brock adjusts back... see if he could stay healthy as well.

*played things off meaning having a good relationship with Trey.. nothing but positive s**t.. until we got a firm grip on the next branch. (Be it Brock or Trey or Sam)

Agree with all of this.

Except for the part that Lance would be a $9 million dollar 3rd string QB.

Yeah, except he never said that.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Front office handled this horribly.

Unless they think Sam Darnold could be a long term answer.... which is tough to bet on.

Imo they let leakage spread and didn't nip things in the butt. (Maybe on purpose)

But we should have played things off and kept Trey one more season until we knew for sure about Brock. See how team adjust to him this season, and how Brock adjusts back... see if he could stay healthy as well.

*played things off meaning having a good relationship with Trey.. nothing but positive s**t.. until we got a firm grip on the next branch. (Be it Brock or Trey or Sam)

Agree with all of this.

The crazy thing is, no one seems to want the QB's that Shanahan likes;

Jimmy G = No Trade Value
Trey Lance = No Trade Value
San Darnold = No Trade Value
Brock Purdy = Every team passed on him 7 times in the draft.

Not a good look for an offensive guru.

Meanwhile Pete Carroll can resurrect Geno Smith???

Coaching is our issue. We have an offensive minded coach and everyone is talking about our defense LOL

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
That's the most reasonable answer. A shame no one talked him into Fields, who has more physical talent.

Would've been the better play. Of the QBs available he'd be the only guy who could maybe keep Purdy off the field.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
Just heard about this story so I'm not sure what all has been said. My two cents is that it feels like a mistake. I don't think Darnold did all that much to prove he was significantly better than Lance. He might have looked the part better, but I don't recall that he led them to many points in his appearances. You have to wonder if maybe they're just trying to find a way to clear a little money for Bosa's deal. I seem to recall reading Darnold will cost them $3 million this year as opposed to Lance's nine million. Not sure what the ramifications of a trade would have on that number. Seems to me that even with Darnold's three, Lance's nine and Brock's $850K they would still be paying less for their QB room than a lot of other teams.

Obviously, I wasn't among those who was advocating for Lance to start his first year but I'm truly sorry we didn't get a chance to see him develop a bit more. By all accounts he's a really good kid who works hard and wants to be a good player. Of course, on the other hand, I'm not displeased that all of the people who were in here trying to convince everyone how great he was going to be before ever taking a snap in the league will now have the opportunity to reflect on the error of their ways.

I think this too. A few days ago guys like Lombardi were saying there is no point in offloading Lance for the small compensation we'll receive in return. But I think the money that Lance is slated to make as a third stringer is a problem for a team looking to break the bank on Bosa and who probably wants a shot at retaining Aiyuk too. Meanwhile, the third string QB is making three times the QB1 and QB2. That doesn't make sense, especially when Lance isn't blowing us away with his progress and taking the reins of the position. He is making some incremental improvement. I feel bad for him. He was way over-drafted. Maybe he'll end up in a better place and still have a chance to start for someone. Lucky we stole Purdy the next year.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They got plenty wrong, but built a damn good roster. My issue is how horribly they've been with finding that QB. Pasted on opportunities to have the GOAT, the guy who's gonna be the next GOAT, a rock star who all he wanted was to play for SF, s**t toss in Rogers/Stafford as well.

To me thats more "they lucked into a great roster" than they built a great roster.
If they knew how good Kittle, Warner,... would be, those would have been their early round picks.

What they did is: f**k up 80% of their 1st and 2nd rounders and luck into their late round picks.
Those early picks are the players you believe in the most, thats why you pick them over those you select later.
And we know lynch and shanahan give a s**t on draft grades, projections of who goes where and value.

Pretty remarkable how much s**t they've lucked into lol

Wow "Lucked" into a great roster. That's the first!!!!

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The best part about Trey getting traded is seeing Trey stans finally gone.

Would have been banned for saying this about Jimmy stans maybe.

I'm both and I'm still here. Triggering grown men just by my existence lol.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Pretty remarkable how much s**t they've lucked into lol

Much more remarkable how much 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounders they miss on.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lance gonna get moved to the Vikings? I'm sure he would welcome that

Trey with Jefferson and a 2nd year Addison would be deadly.

In theory

Watch them trade Trey and Darnold goes out and throws like 3 picks vs the Chargers.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
That's the difference between a few NFCCG or a Super Bowl appearance vs a Super Bowl win or two.

Yet if we get better QB play this year then they have in the Shanahan era they can win despite those misses. That's the importance of the QB.

We aren't getting better QB play, have you seen the o-line?

Trey watched Kyle's presser the other day and decided he had enough of this s**t and requested a trade.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Front office handled this horribly.

Unless they think Sam Darnold could be a long term answer.... which is tough to bet on.

Imo they let leakage spread and didn't nip things in the butt. (Maybe on purpose)

But we should have played things off and kept Trey one more season until we knew for sure about Brock. See how team adjust to him this season, and how Brock adjusts back... see if he could stay healthy as well.

*played things off meaning having a good relationship with Trey.. nothing but positive s**t.. until we got a firm grip on the next branch. (Be it Brock or Trey or Sam)

Agree with all of this.

Except for the part that Lance would be a $9 million dollar 3rd string QB.

Yeah, except he never said that.

Except you're still not understanding that. Both of you. lol

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Koldo:
The best part about Trey getting traded is seeing Trey stans finally gone.

The main two camps weren't Trey vs Brock, or Trey vs Jimmy.

It was posters who felt we needed an upgrade to Jimmy vs posters who felt Jimmy was good enough.

The posters who felt Jimmy was good enough merely adopted Brock when it was convenient, because those fans were the loudest in saying our season was over after Jimmy got hurt.