Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
At least now we can accurately say that Kyle lost confidence in Lances ability. I got crucified for suggesting that too.

You have to wonder when exactly he knew, that TL isn't it.

I honestly think it was last training camp. Even if Purdy doesn't come out of no where, I think we target another qb this off-season

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by BSofSF:
It was not a good year to trade the farm for a QB in the draft with those prospects. It's bizarre that they've had such a shrewd eye for later round talent, and have whiffed so spectacularly on many of the high picks.

They get desperate, press the issue, fall in love with guys early instead of letting the draft come to them. They also place wildly optimistic values on players early.

I don't see it as desperation as much as it was a simple conclusion - Garoppolo's injuries in 2018 and 2020 derailed their season. They had the capital to try and hit on a boom/bust QB in the 2021 draft without derailing their overall talent acquiring ability and they took it.

The curious thing is, no one - and I mean no one on the planet - actually knows if Lance will boom or bust due to having so little film on him. That's the wildest part of this, IMO. It's that Lance is just as much of a question mark in August 2023 as he was in May 2021, and it's no one's fault, too. The Niners simply cannot wait around anymore to be the ones to find out, so they'll have to sell low and roll with the QB that actually showed he's ready to run the offensive system at a high level immediately.

Originally posted by prospector49:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

The #49ers have officially named Sam Darnold the No. 2 quarterback while the team will reportedly "explore options" with Trey Lance, per @RapSheet pic.twitter.com/emH1qNuaU3

— 𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙎𝙁𝙉𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙧𝙨 (@TheSFNiners) August 23, 2023

If this is true, this has to go down as the most mismanaged QB situation in football history. I totally understood naming Purdy the starter. He earned it. I was all for getting Sam Darnold as an insurance QB, NOT TO COMPETE WITH LANCE FOR THE #2 QB JOB!! From what I saw in preseason games you're not making me believe that Darnold outplayed Lance, and from what I read and heard from people who's been at the practices Lance has been better than Darnold. You give up 3 years of 1st round picks, but after 4 career regular season starts (one he got injured in) you basically label him a bust, only to replace him with - you guest it - a proven bust. Name me a bonified QB bust in the history NFL that has gotten so few opportunities to prove himself, including the proven bust on our team now that proved himself to be a bust in 55 games.

And where's the local press corps on this. How is it that they haven't they didn't break this? Shanny & Co. needs a press corps like Chicago or New York. I have never in my life been so disgusted with the team I love.

Finally, Shanny had better win a SB with Brock after this. Because if he don't he's on well-deserved hotseat.

Correct. Total fail

The only thing mismanaged was drafting Trey in the first place. Massive over reach on a total project, a guy that was totally unprepared to be in the NFL.

And now it's being reported that the 49ers have been shopping him all summer, with NO substantial offers from the rest of the NFL. So despite what Grant and others on this board say, Trey does not just "need more reps" to reach his "high ceiling".

I agree that the 49ers should never have drafted him, though for different reasons than you. But if you spend that kind of capital to draft a player you give them every chance to succussed. The 49ers didn't do this.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Purdy really did single handedly save these guys careers and he's the equivalent of them winning the lottery.

Or if Trey is elite elsewhere, Brock could be the reason they missed out on an elite QB. Because they would have just let Trey develop into that QB if Purdy wasn't here. It can go either way.

I would not lose any sleep worrying about that possibility, but you do you.

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I wanted Fields also over McCorkle, he was the best QB available imo

Fields is a RB. He's Kaepernick, but with even less passing ability. The Bears are letting him run like Michael Vick, which will destroy his chances of even becoming a good passer. He won't get the reps before the bad habits are cemented.

So true. Field loving Wbzers coming out with the I told so and yet he has zero to this point.

Super disappointed in TL and this organization.

Lets hope Purdy is the real deal. He has only played 8 games ...

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I wanted Fields also over McCorkle, he was the best QB available imo

It was not a good year to trade the farm for a QB in the draft with those prospects. It's bizarre that they've had such a shrewd eye for later round talent, and have whiffed so spectacularly on many of the high picks.

Again, what did we lose? Another Solomon Thomas or Reuben Foster? We have the best riser in the league right now, so why whine about how it came to be? Let's just enjoy it, enjoy the season and stop worrying about a backup who won't even see the field unless it's to kneel the ball.

What do you mean when you say we have the best riser?

Many people try to say we have the best roster but that isn't true at all.

Typo. How many other teams boast as many all pros as we do?

How many rings have those all pros won?

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He was fired by the eagles after 5 NFCCG appearances, but look at him now!

Unlike Kyle Andy learns from his mistakes. Our entire organization struggles with accountability, this is why we will never see that Eddie D dynasty again.

Yeah atleast Andy Reid knew he needed an elite QB to win a SB. Kyle still thinks his system is the star and just needed a QB that can run it and that will be enough. You just know that if Brock fails this season he will go bring in Kirk Cousins instead of saying ok "I have to go find that elite guy"

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by BSofSF:

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
I wanted Fields also over McCorkle, he was the best QB available imo

It was not a good year to trade the farm for a QB in the draft with those prospects. It's bizarre that they've had such a shrewd eye for later round talent, and have whiffed so spectacularly on many of the high picks.

Again, what did we lose? Another Solomon Thomas or Reuben Foster? We have the best riser in the league right now, so why whine about how it came to be? Let's just enjoy it, enjoy the season and stop worrying about a backup who won't even see the field unless it's to kneel the ball.

What do you mean when you say we have the best riser?

Many people try to say we have the best roster but that isn't true at all.

Typo. How many other teams boast as many all pros as we do?

How many rings have those all pros won?

how many SB champs have no All Pros

LAME ASS MANAGEMENT
STAND TO YOUR DECISIONS.
Answer the question about how you f**ked up 3 first rounders and the whole Lance situation.
My little ones have more pride than Lynch and Shanahan have

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Purdy really did single handedly save these guys careers and he's the equivalent of them winning the lottery.

Or if Trey is elite elsewhere, Brock could be the reason they missed out on an elite QB. Because they would have just let Trey develop into that QB if Purdy wasn't here. It can go either way.

It's just not Purdy, though. It's the overall talent of the team. Purdy could immediately unlock all the team's offensive talent. If the team had far less talented WRs/RBs/TE or a worse defense than Lance would have got a bigger opportunity in 2021 and 2023 because the overall expectations for the team would be middling. Raw QBs get the most playtime on bad teams.

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
At least now we can accurately say that Kyle lost confidence in Lances ability. I got crucified for suggesting that too.

You have to wonder when exactly he knew, that TL isn't it.

It had to be during one of the first two games last year. Trey wasn't even practicing before Darnold was signed.

I think it was during camp last year and then his play week one, then I think when Lance broke his ankle and realized how much that would set Lance back time wise with his development, he called it quits.

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:

The 49ers made two people available to the media after practice: Javon Hargrave and Fred Warner. No Kyle Shanahan. No John Lynch. Seems kinda gutless.

— Michael Silver (@MikeSilver) August 23, 2023

LAME ASS MANAGEMENT

Or, you know, they're busy working out a trade in the moment.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
He was fired by the eagles after 5 NFCCG appearances, but look at him now!

Unlike Kyle Andy learns from his mistakes. Our entire organization struggles with accountability, this is why we will never see that Eddie D dynasty again.

Yeah atleast Andy Reid knew he needed an elite QB to win a SB. Kyle still thinks his system is the star and just needed a QB that can run it and that will be enough. You just know that if Brock fails this season he will go bring in Kirk Cousins instead of saying ok "I have to go find that elite guy"

elite QBs don't grow on trees.. Mahomes was no guarantee

Originally posted by prospector49:
Good for him for getting his money, but he will still go down as one of the biggest busts in NFL history.

He's only 23 years.

Originally posted by captveg:
Or, you know, they're busy working out a trade in the moment.

Shanahan always says he got nothing to do with all this stuff.
He is hiding in his chamber