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Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

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  • pd24
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
This is BS. Shanny has lied to the media before. Plus, the way he went after Darnold on day one of free agency lead many to conclude that the writing was on the wall for Lance from the very beginning. It would not surprise me for it to come out that Lance asked for a trade after acquiring Darnold. And give how Shanny has treated him I can't blame him.

yeah f**k Shanny for naming Trey the unquestionable starter going into 2022. f**k Shanny for breaking Trey's finger and his ankle. f**k Shanny!!!! amirite!

Now your being hyperbolic. My problem is that Shanny has totally mismanaged this whole QB situation, but people like you are acting like we're pulling stuff out of the sky. Shanny made his mind up about Lance at the end of last season. He had no real intention to develop Lance fully. I think he realized how much it was gonna really take to develop him and simply checked out. He proceeded to sign two absolute busts, and then made him "compete" with the one who proved - beyond a shadow of a doubt - in front of God and the whole world in 55 games he's a bonified bust. From my eye, Darnold didn't out-play Lance. From many reports from those who were at camp stated that Lance looked better than Darnold in practice.

Given that, Shanny's mind was already made up to move on from Lance a long time ago but was surprised at the real progress he'd made. When he said Darnold would split reps with Darnold I knew then that Lance had no chance, no matter the progress or how he looked in practice. If Shanny truly intended to develop Lance, he would have given all the reps to Lance and never subjected him to no "competition" with anyone for QB2 given what the 49ers spent to get him, period. Instead, to save face from their own evaluation ineptitudes, they allowed narratives that put all the fault with Lance to proliferate all throughout the media, even to the point where many sports commentators spewed personal insults at Lance. And because they don't have a press corps like in NY or Chicago, where Shanny would actually be asked the hard questions and not treated with kid gloves, they were allowed let Lance eat the blow-back of those narrative with no defense or pushback from Shanny, Lynch or any 49ers brass. He basically was hung out to dry. For me, this is most condemnable and damning.

No Sir, my beloved 49ers failed Trey Lance. I'll always pull for my 49ers, no matter who the QB is. But this team DID NOT get better today; we got worse with naming Darnold the number 2. I know Shanny said that he plans to play Lance tomorrow, but frankly what's the point for Lance? If I were Lance, I wouldn't want to be anywhere close to a football field until I got traded or released. There's absolutely no need for him to go out there and risk injury playing against future Home Depot workers trying desperately to make a team.

i dont agree it was mismanaged. i believe unfortunately timed injuries derailed the team's plan for Trey. he was given the team in 2022. got injured and then we all watched Brock's ascension.

You'll get no grip with me about Brock. He took full advantage of his opportunity and earned QB1. I think Lance even agreed with that. But QB2 should have NEVER been up for grabs. NEVER!! The guy had only 4 regular season starts. Lance had shown nothing at all to prove that any competition was even warranted, least of all with Sam Darnold. He didn't need competition. No, slit reps in a "competition" was nothing more than a ruse to hide the fact that Shanny had already made up his mind.

I use the word "mismanagement" to describe Shanny's handling of Lance because that's just what the hell it was - mismanaged! For starters, we should have never spent 3 years' worth of 1st rounders to move up to 3rd overall if he wasn't gonna be given the keys to the car at some point in 2021. (Has there ever been a QB drafted in the top 5 who sat out a year?) So the mismanagement started with drafting Trey Lance to begin with on a SB-ready team. Then, you don't develop him as a passer, choosing instead to run him on QB power when he really didn't do that at NDSU. This tells me the plan for him was questionable from the beginning. Next, you subject him to a QB2 "competition", a QB2 "competition" with a widely known, proven bust with 5 years, 55 games, and 55 interceptions worth of evidence that he's in fact a bust. By everyone's assessments, even Shanny and Lynch's, Lance needed reps. He didn't need spit reps. Then you leave him out to dry in the media, rendering the guy you mortgaged heavy draft future for, no defense or media pushback at all. Sports commentators were allowed to make personal attacks on him with no response from the 49ers. And to top it all off, the coming trade will likely be the worst in NFL history in terms of compensation and return of draft investment.

Good Sir, in what world is this NOT mismanagement?

Lol. Yes QB2 should have been up for grabs. Don't hand it to an injury prone QB that hasn't shown anything. It was a competition, he lost.

There was never a real "competition" to begin with, nor should he had been subjected to it.

He didn't do anything to prove he was a NFL QB. He won't even let the ball qo at times. The comp was the Raiders game and he s**t the bed
The least they should do is give Trey the entire game on Friday(After Brock's 1 series) but they aren't doing that. Trey will get like half of the 3rd quarter and 4th and if he lights it up again, People will once again say it was only 3rd and 4th stringers.
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
There has never been a top drafted QB who has gotten so little gametime to prove his worth before being dumped in NFL history. What the 49ers are doing with Trey Lance is absolutely unprecedented.

FWIW :

Trey Lance : 8 games played with 4 starts in 2 years.

Jim Druckenmiller : 6 games played with 1 start in 2 years.

Dan McGwire : 12 games played with 5 starts in 4 years with the team that drafted him (Seattle). 1 game played but no starts in his lone year with Miami.

JD went 26th, McGwire went 16th. Guess it depends on the definition of "top drafted QB" but Trey is not the only first rounder taken who didn't get a lot of regular season gametime.

Yeah, I was talking about top of the 1st round QBs.

You can add Paxton Lynch to your list too.
If we trade Trey it's the beginning of the end.. it's not going to be long before teams watch the Dallas game and take away the screens and 5 yd passes. We can't screen our way to #6. .ijs. PURDY I'm hoping for the best but he look like s**t the Dallas game until we we went to the jimmy G play book.. run run slant. If it wasn't for and insane acrobats by kittles we would've lost
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Booing Darnold would be weird.

I hope our fan base doesn't engage in that type of behavior as it might scare Kirk Cousins away from signing here in 2024.

If that's the case, let the booing commence. Jk
Originally posted by JTB1974:
The least they should do is give Trey the entire game on Friday(After Brock's 1 series) but they aren't doing that. Trey will get like half of the 3rd quarter and 4th and if he lights it up again, People will once again say it was only 3rd and 4th stringers.

Why would they do that? Makes no sense whatsoever. Sam is QB2.
I'm glad he's playing on Friday. If I was the coach I'd have him play the whole game.
Originally posted by pd24:
He didn't do anything to prove he was a NFL QB. He won't even let the ball qo at times. The comp was the Raiders game and he s**t the bed

That's funny because I rarely heard any reports of him having a bad practice. He a couple early on and that was about it. And most people who were there said he looked better than Darnold. They said Trey was much better in move the ball periods and Darnold most of the time was just checking it down. He wasn't pushing the ball down the field.
Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
If we trade Trey it's the beginning of the end.. it's not going to be long before teams watch the Dallas game and take away the screens and 5 yd passes. We can't screen our way to #6. .ijs. PURDY I'm hoping for the best but he look like s**t the Dallas game until we we went to the jimmy G play book.. run run slant. If it wasn't for and insane acrobats by kittles we would've lost

Lol. Where to start.
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Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
If we trade Trey it's the beginning of the end.. it's not going to be long before teams watch the Dallas game and take away the screens and 5 yd passes. We can't screen our way to #6. .ijs. PURDY I'm hoping for the best but he look like s**t the Dallas game until we we went to the jimmy G play book.. run run slant. If it wasn't for and insane acrobats by kittles we would've lost

BUT Trey can't do the screen stuff or the deep stuff or the in between. He can't even run. So it is nothing.

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Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by pd24:
He didn't do anything to prove he was a NFL QB. He won't even let the ball qo at times. The comp was the Raiders game and he s**t the bed

That's funny because I rarely heard any reports of him having a bad practice. He a couple early on and that was about it. And most people who were there said he looked better than Darnold. They said Trey was much better in move the ball periods and Darnold most of the time was just checking it down. He wasn't pushing the ball down the field.
Practice is not a game.
Originally posted by pd24:
BUT Trey can't do the screen stuff or the deep stuff or the in between. He can't even run. So it is nothing.

Burrow and the Bengals lost to the Cowboys with a backup QB. We should hit them up for the Lance Burrow swap.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
The least they should do is give Trey the entire game on Friday(After Brock's 1 series) but they aren't doing that. Trey will get like half of the 3rd quarter and 4th and if he lights it up again, People will once again say it was only 3rd and 4th stringers.

We should hope he lights it up, creates more value for him and/or makes him challenge for that 2 spot. It's not like he can't win it throughout the season.

maybe he will play with more if that "eff it" and sling it confidently, we may get to see a version of him that we haven't.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
If we trade Trey it's the beginning of the end.. it's not going to be long before teams watch the Dallas game and take away the screens and 5 yd passes. We can't screen our way to #6. .ijs. PURDY I'm hoping for the best but he look like s**t the Dallas game until we we went to the jimmy G play book.. run run slant. If it wasn't for and insane acrobats by kittles we would've lost

Lol. Where to start.

Not even worth it. Lol I'm exhausted just thinking about where to start.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by pd24:
He didn't do anything to prove he was a NFL QB. He won't even let the ball qo at times. The comp was the Raiders game and he s**t the bed

That's funny because I rarely heard any reports of him having a bad practice. He a couple early on and that was about it. And most people who were there said he looked better than Darnold. They said Trey was much better in move the ball periods and Darnold most of the time was just checking it down. He wasn't pushing the ball down the field.

Do they have the all 22 view, and be able to watch each plays multiple times to dissect?
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