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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Getting a pass rushed that could help us this year would be great.

I hope we get a RT. We are already loaded with 3 great players on the DL and some good depth. JPP is still out there if we think Drake or Ferrell isn't a solid option

Right tackles are probably untradeable at this time of year, no?

Probably. It would have to be one coming up for an extension on a cap strapped team or a disgruntled player that may want a change of scenery to a winning team.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by tankle104:
We should hope he lights it up, creates more value for him and/or makes him challenge for that 2 spot. It's not like he can't win it throughout the season.

maybe he will play with more if that "eff it" and sling it confidently, we may get to see a version of him that we haven't.

We saw it in those last 2 drives vs the Broncos. He made 3 or 4 throws that no QB on this team can currently make.

Other team saw that too, if 2 drives in the 4th quarter of preseason meant so much, then perhaps another team will throw good picks to trade for Trey. Do you think it is going to be a 1st round pick?
Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Which will be Trey Lance's next team?

Falcons +300.
Vikings +350.
Buccaneers +500.
Commanders +1000.
Patriots +1200.
Titans +1500.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by tankle104:
We should hope he lights it up, creates more value for him and/or makes him challenge for that 2 spot. It's not like he can't win it throughout the season.

maybe he will play with more if that "eff it" and sling it confidently, we may get to see a version of him that we haven't.

We saw it in those last 2 drives vs the Broncos. He made 3 or 4 throws that no QB on this team can currently make.

Pretty sure Darnold is said to have the best arm talent on the team so I'm going to pass on that take.
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Which will be Trey Lance's next team?

Falcons +300.
Vikings +350.
Buccaneers +500.
Commanders +1000.
Patriots +1200.
Titans +1500.

Where are the 49ers? Is this if traded?
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by pd24:
He didn't do anything to prove he was a NFL QB. He won't even let the ball qo at times. The comp was the Raiders game and he s**t the bed

That's funny because I rarely heard any reports of him having a bad practice. He a couple early on and that was about it. And most people who were there said he looked better than Darnold. They said Trey was much better in move the ball periods and Darnold most of the time was just checking it down. He wasn't pushing the ball down the field.

I heard, excuse me, read reports that he still wasn't accurate with a lot of his attempts. Did not get beyond that. But I did read it.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Fine, then why even bother moving up to get Lance then? If you didn't want Mac Jones, and wasn't gonna give the keys to Lance in year one after mortgaging draft future why not stay put and draft elsewhere? Where was Micah Parsons drafted again?

Organization may of pressured him into taking a qb. We weren't planning on having anymore top 10 picks. We already missed on Mahomes. Shanny took who he thought was best at the time but eventually he went back to his colors and that's his system qb.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Aug 23, 2023 at 9:07 PM ]
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Which will be Trey Lance's next team?

Falcons +300.
Vikings +350.
Buccaneers +500.
Commanders +1000.
Patriots +1200.
Titans +1500.

Where are the 49ers? Is this if traded?

I'm assuming the Niners are favored to keep him , but no odds for him staying
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Originally posted by tankle104:
We should hope he lights it up, creates more value for him and/or makes him challenge for that 2 spot. It's not like he can't win it throughout the season.

maybe he will play with more if that "eff it" and sling it confidently, we may get to see a version of him that we haven't.

We saw it in those last 2 drives vs the Broncos. He made 3 or 4 throws that no QB on this team can currently make.

what makes you think he made throws that neither QB can make? You realize that darnold has a better arm than Lance? Darnold is also pretty athletic.
I've seen brock make plays that would be shocking if Lance did it. Gotta stop over hyping the couple good plays that lance has done.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Which will be Trey Lance's next team?

Falcons +300.
Vikings +350.
Buccaneers +500.
Commanders +1000.
Patriots +1200.
Titans +1500.

Where are the 49ers? Is this if traded?
I guess the niners aren't expected to keep him at all? lol Ive always thought the Falcons were a likely landing spot for him, reportedly really liked him in the draft.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Which will be Trey Lance's next team?

Falcons +300.
Vikings +350.
Buccaneers +500.
Commanders +1000.
Patriots +1200.
Titans +1500.

Where are the 49ers? Is this if traded?

I'm assuming the Niners are favored to keep him , but no odds for him staying
It says next team, I presume your current team can't be your next team so it's an open ended bet that pushes if he never joins another team.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
This is BS. Shanny has lied to the media before. Plus, the way he went after Darnold on day one of free agency lead many to conclude that the writing was on the wall for Lance from the very beginning. It would not surprise me for it to come out that Lance asked for a trade after acquiring Darnold. And give how Shanny has treated him I can't blame him.

yeah f**k Shanny for naming Trey the unquestionable starter going into 2022. f**k Shanny for breaking Trey's finger and his ankle. f**k Shanny!!!! amirite!

Now your being hyperbolic. My problem is that Shanny has totally mismanaged this whole QB situation, but people like you are acting like we're pulling stuff out of the sky. Shanny made his mind up about Lance at the end of last season. He had no real intention to develop Lance fully. I think he realized how much it was gonna really take to develop him and simply checked out. He proceeded to sign two absolute busts, and then made him "compete" with the one who proved - beyond a shadow of a doubt - in front of God and the whole world in 55 games he's a bonified bust. From my eye, Darnold didn't out-play Lance. From many reports from those who were at camp stated that Lance looked better than Darnold in practice.

Given that, Shanny's mind was already made up to move on from Lance a long time ago but was surprised at the real progress he'd made. When he said Darnold would split reps with Darnold I knew then that Lance had no chance, no matter the progress or how he looked in practice. If Shanny truly intended to develop Lance, he would have given all the reps to Lance and never subjected him to no "competition" with anyone for QB2 given what the 49ers spent to get him, period. Instead, to save face from their own evaluation ineptitudes, they allowed narratives that put all the fault with Lance to proliferate all throughout the media, even to the point where many sports commentators spewed personal insults at Lance. And because they don't have a press corps like in NY or Chicago, where Shanny would actually be asked the hard questions and not treated with kid gloves, they were allowed let Lance eat the blow-back of those narrative with no defense or pushback from Shanny, Lynch or any 49ers brass. He basically was hung out to dry. For me, this is most condemnable and damning.

No Sir, my beloved 49ers failed Trey Lance. I'll always pull for my 49ers, no matter who the QB is. But this team DID NOT get better today; we got worse with naming Darnold the number 2. I know Shanny said that he plans to play Lance tomorrow, but frankly what's the point for Lance? If I were Lance, I wouldn't want to be anywhere close to a football field until I got traded or released. There's absolutely no need for him to go out there and risk injury playing against future Home Depot workers trying desperately to make a team.

i dont agree it was mismanaged. i believe unfortunately timed injuries derailed the team's plan for Trey. he was given the team in 2022. got injured and then we all watched Brock's ascension.

You'll get no grip with me about Brock. He took full advantage of his opportunity and earned QB1. I think Lance even agreed with that. But QB2 should have NEVER been up for grabs. NEVER!! The guy had only 4 regular season starts. Lance had shown nothing at all to prove that any competition was even warranted, least of all with Sam Darnold. He didn't need competition. No, slit reps in a "competition" was nothing more than a ruse to hide the fact that Shanny had already made up his mind.

I use the word "mismanagement" to describe Shanny's handling of Lance because that's just what the hell it was - mismanaged! For starters, we should have never spent 3 years' worth of 1st rounders to move up to 3rd overall if he wasn't gonna be given the keys to the car at some point in 2021. (Has there ever been a QB drafted in the top 5 who sat out a year?) So the mismanagement started with drafting Trey Lance to begin with on a SB-ready team. Then, you don't develop him as a passer, choosing instead to run him on QB power when he really didn't do that at NDSU. This tells me the plan for him was questionable from the beginning. Next, you subject him to a QB2 "competition", a QB2 "competition" with a widely known, proven bust with 5 years, 55 games, and 55 interceptions worth of evidence that he's in fact a bust. By everyone's assessments, even Shanny and Lynch's, Lance needed reps. He didn't need spit reps. Then you leave him out to dry in the media, rendering the guy you mortgaged heavy draft future for, no defense or media pushback at all. Sports commentators were allowed to make personal attacks on him with no response from the 49ers. And to top it all off, the coming trade will likely be the worst in NFL history in terms of compensation and return of draft investment.

Good Sir, in what world is this NOT mismanagement?

  • the team was in unique situation with an opportunity to swing for the fences drafting Trey with an already stacked team. that's not mismanagement.
  • NDSU's offense foundation is built upon power gap running with the QB and RB lol (did you not see any pre draft highlights of Trey trucking fools?)
  • Darnold was signed when Trey was still injured. not bringing a QB to compete for the back up wouldve been irresponsible
  • Sam clearly beat out Trey for QB2 going by the two games we all watched. (tweets dont tell the whole story of how the competition in camp went)
  • Trey's feelings dont really matter in any of this. he's an adult and this is a business.

I disagree with you, this was a mismanagement. He should have never been drafted to begin with. SB-ready team's have no business spending that much to move up that far for a raw QB everyone knew needed at least a few years of development.

I did see him truck a few guys. But I even knew he wasn't going to do that to NFL defenses. And his passing wasn't bad, just his mechanics needed work.

Its disingenuous to say tha Lance was still injurerd when Darnold was signed. He was signed the first day of free agency, a time when everyone knew Lance had been in full workouts on his own. No, Shanny made his m8nd up a long time ago that they were moving on from Lance.

I don't buy that Darnold "clearly" beat out Lance. From my eye during the preseason games Lance look better overall. And from the reports from folks who were at the practice who saw them both say that Lance was slightly better. And no, I'm not relying on Twitter reports.

In my critiques of this mismanagement I have tried to stay away from what's fair or feelings. I haven't mentioned anything about his feelings.

Sam looks like a QB. Lance looks like a project in year 3. Wast decision for the good of the team and I am sure the players appreciate it.

You're right. He IS a project. EVERYONE KNEW THIS BEFORE HE WAS DRAFTED!!! Which is why he shoul have NEVER been drafted on a "WIN NOW" SB-READY team, much less spend what we spent to draft him.

Again, mismanagement.
Well Kyle has really Fd this up,Donald will not get it done,Has never gotten it done after what 6 years of ACTUALLY getting to Play QB in Real live game action and He still looks the same...Kyle you better pray Purdy don`t get hurt else I got a feeling you will be loosing the Locker Room soon and Aiyuk next year....How the heck do you think Trey is going to get better when you are not giving Him reps..why the heel did you Kyle go and trade 2 First round picks plus swap your own First round pick to draft this Kid...one thing for sure Kyle, you sure are good at fing QBs up(Jimmy G) Kyle you need to be shame of yourself....you did`nt learn a thing last year Purdy is not the most well built QB i JUST DON`T THINK HE IS PHYSICAL ENOUGH TO HOLD UP in the NFL and with that OL...lol in comes "Isee ghost pass rusher turn over machine SAM IAM DORNALD" YEP GOOD LUCK.
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
You're right. He IS a project. EVERYONE KNEW THIS BEFORE HE WAS DRAFTED!!! Which is why he shoul have NEVER been drafted on a "WIN NOW" SB-READY team, much less spend what we spent to draft him.

Again, mismanagement.

Pretty sure everyone agrees it was a really really bad move. It'll leave a mark on the coaches and front office, other than that what's your point?
Originally posted by Shorteous:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
3rd string QB. Wow. Exploring trade options but getting NO OFFERS.

The Trey guys are really hurting now.


It's all Kyle's fault….

for "lucking" into Brock Purdy…

Probably but thank goodness we did. Because this guy is terrible.
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