Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by jrouter4949:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

I'm sorry, my beloved 49ers failed Trey Lance.

BIG TIME Fail,this lies at the feet of Dirty Kyle

For the betterment of his career, he should demand to be released. I would.

there is no situation currently that betters Lance's career. and you keep saying he should ask for his release without considering the cap hit.

Why should he consider the team's cap hit? Clearly, the team don't give a crap about his career with the way he's been handled. The 49ers cap isn't his problem. His career is his problem. So yeah, imma continue to say he should demand to be released.

The drafted him 3rd and handed him the starting job which he lost.

They drafted the wrong QB at #3.

Could have had Mahomes at #3, if so we would have been able to keep all those picks we spent on Shanahan's version of Mahomes (Trey).

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
He may be trying to pull a Patrick McCaw.

He may be trying to pull a Paxton Lynch and go and play in Canada.

"Better learn French buddy"-Some guy in Quebec

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jrouter4949:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I'm sorry, my beloved 49ers failed Trey Lance.

BIG TIME Fail,this lies at the feet of Dirty Kyle

I don't get the we failed Lance take. Clearly we sold the ranch, so we were all in.

I just don't think we should have played him while injured and not ready year 1.
We played him and he got a season ender, year 2
Should we be handing BP the clipboard now? I don't get where the failed part comes in..

We never really committed to Lance in the first place. That's the failure. When we drafted him the deck should have been cleared for him, but it wasn't. The fact that it wasn't speaks loudly that they really didn't believe in him. Then he got hurt, and understandably Purdy earned QB1, and should be. Then, we began shopping him, BEFORE we signed Sam Darnold and Allen (according to reports). So, it was clear that after 4 regular season starts Shanny was done with Trey. Then after they bring in Sam Darnold and try to sell to everyone that there was a "competition" between Trey and Darnold when anyone paying attention knew that, because they were shopping Trey long before Darnold hit the building, they were already out on Trey.

This tells me that somewhere between Trey's injury and February this year Shanny's mind was made up to move on from Trey. If Shanny was truly committed to Trey, he would have NEVER brough in Darnold in to ostensibly "compete" with Lance for QB2. If a commitment to Lance existed there would have been no need for a competition for QB2. Darnold would have been QB3 from the get-go. But a "competition" was Shanny's cover for a decision he'd made already before camp.

To answer your question: NO, Purdy should not be holding a clipboard. But that's a strawman argument. I don't know anyone who's arguing for that. And frankly I'm getting tired of people advancing that. Even Lance understands why Brock is the starter. For many (myself included) it's how they handled Trey from the beginning, and how they handled him post-injury. This all has equated to failure of Trey Lance.

Frankly, if I were him, I'd demand that they release me. There's no point of risking injury and further risking my career.

If Lance needs so much protection that the QB room needs to be devoid of challengers for him to start that's not a great reflection on his ability to run this offense.

If Lance suddenly becomes a "I was wronged, everyone is at fault but me, the world is unfair" type person over this than he's going to find zero opportunities open for him. No teams are going to want that. Lance's best assets right now are his work ethic, humility, and willingness to contribute as much as he possibly can with any opportunity big or small that comes his way. If he suddenly starts being Mr. Mopey or uncooperative that word will get around fast, and it will endear him to none of the other teams' GMs or HCs that may have interest in him.

If Lance needs so much protection that the QB room needs to be devoid of challengers for him to start that's not a great reflection on his ability to run this offense.

If Lance suddenly becomes a "I was wronged, everyone is at fault but me, the world is unfair" type person over this than he's going to find zero opportunities open for him.

Lance's best assets right now are his work ethic, humility, and willingness to contribute as much as he possibly can with any opportunity big or small that comes his way.

If he suddenly starts being Mr. Mopey or uncooperative

that word will get around fast, and it will endear him to none of the other teams' GMs or HCs that may have interest in him.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by captveg:
It was a huge swing for sure. That means homerun or strikeout. It was a strikeout. If Lance was Mahomes 2.0 it would have been hailed as the greatest draft trade of all time. That's the risk.

There was basically zero chance this guy was the next Mahomes, lol. He's not close to as talented and did not have the experience. For reference, the Chiefs traded up for Mahomes and paid nowhere near the cost we did.

It's the actual cost we paid in relation to the prospect we took. It's not simply the idea that you should never trade up and grab a guy you like. You can get a borderline MVP level QB for what we paid. You could buy 3 stars at other positions.

I'd argue a project player in the mold of Lance should never be drafted in the top 5 not even factoring a trade. This type of player is better suited towards the end of the 1st round or into the 2nd (like Colin Kaepernick, Jordan Love, or Jalen Hurts).

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
What exactly do the 49ers have to gain by keeping him?

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
What exactly do the 49ers have to gain by keeping him?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by jrouter4949:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I'm sorry, my beloved 49ers failed Trey Lance.

BIG TIME Fail,this lies at the feet of Dirty Kyle

I don't get the we failed Lance take. Clearly we sold the ranch, so we were all in.

I just don't think we should have played him while injured and not ready year 1.
We played him and he got a season ender, year 2
Should we be handing BP the clipboard now? I don't get where the failed part comes in..

We never really committed to Lance in the first place. That's the failure. When we drafted him the deck should have been cleared for him, but it wasn't. The fact that it wasn't speaks loudly that they really didn't believe in him. Then he got hurt, and understandably Purdy earned QB1, and should be. Then, we began shopping him, BEFORE we signed Sam Darnold and Allen (according to reports). So, it was clear that after 4 regular season starts Shanny was done with Trey. Then after they bring in Sam Darnold and try to sell to everyone that there was a "competition" between Trey and Darnold when anyone paying attention knew that, because they were shopping Trey long before Darnold hit the building, they were already out on Trey.

This tells me that somewhere between Trey's injury and February this year Shanny's mind was made up to move on from Trey. If Shanny was truly committed to Trey, he would have NEVER brough in Darnold in to ostensibly "compete" with Lance for QB2. If a commitment to Lance existed there would have been no need for a competition for QB2. Darnold would have been QB3 from the get-go. But a "competition" was Shanny's cover for a decision he'd made already before camp.

To answer your question: NO, Purdy should not be holding a clipboard. But that's a strawman argument. I don't know anyone who's arguing for that. And frankly I'm getting tired of people advancing that. Even Lance understands why Brock is the starter. For many (myself included) it's how they handled Trey from the beginning, and how they handled him post-injury. This all has equated to failure of Trey Lance.

Frankly, if I were him, I'd demand that they release me. There's no point of risking injury and further risking my career.

If Lance needs so much protection that the QB room needs to be devoid of challengers for him to start that's not a great reflection on his ability to run this offense.

If Lance suddenly becomes a "I was wronged, everyone is at fault but me, the world is unfair" type person over this than he's going to find zero opportunities open for him. No teams are going to want that. Lance's best assets right now are his work ethic, humility, and willingness to contribute as much as he possibly can with any opportunity big or small that comes his way. If he suddenly starts being Mr. Mopey or uncooperative that word will get around fast, and it will endear him to none of the other teams' GMs or HCs that may have interest in him.

If Lance needs so much protection that the QB room needs to be devoid of challengers for him to start that's not a great reflection on his ability to run this offense.

Ok, then release him!

If Lance suddenly becomes a "I was wronged, everyone is at fault but me, the world is unfair" type person over this than he's going to find zero opportunities open for him.

Who's arguing that? I know i didn't say "unfair". I mentioned the best for his career, and that's to demand a release.

Lance's best assets right now are his work ethic, humility, and willingness to contribute as much as he possibly can with any opportunity big or small that comes his way.

Which he's shown already in spades.

If he suddenly starts being Mr. Mopey or uncooperative

Hasn't shown any signs of that. And demanding a release won't be moping. It's business. funny how people hate when players mind their business and not the teams.

that word will get around fast, and it will endear him to none of the other teams' GMs or HCs that may have interest in him.

Trust me, the day he hits the streets teams won't give a crap about how he got released. teams will line up to sign him. Book it.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
He may be trying to pull a Patrick McCaw.

He may be trying to pull a Paxton Lynch and go and play in Canada.

"Better learn French buddy"-Some guy in Quebec

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
What exactly do the 49ers have to gain by keeping him?

I can't speak for them, but if another disaster string of QB injuries hit, Trey is familiar with the offense. He doesn't run it that great, but likely better than some dude off the street… Josh Johnson for example.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
What exactly do the 49ers have to gain by keeping him?

QB that knows the system in case they get down to their #3 yet again. Also cutting him doesn't really save them a whole lot. Either they get something of actual value back or they hold on to him as insurance.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
What exactly do the 49ers have to gain by keeping him?

QB that knows the system in case they get down to their #3 yet again. Also cutting him doesn't really save them a whole lot. Either they get something of actual value back or they hold on to him as insurance.

Originally posted by captveg:
I don't disagree with you.

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by TreyDeyEeyDey:
What exactly do the 49ers have to gain by keeping him?

QB that knows the system in case they get down to their #3 yet again. Also cutting him doesn't really save them a whole lot. Either they get something of actual value back or they hold on to him as insurance.

If that's the case he's obviously not as terrible as some here are making him out to be and he still has a spot on the team. If he's been as terrible as everyone(after the fact) is saying in practice it seems best just to move on.