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so we draft a project QB who's played 14 games in college with a SB ready team, give away 3 first rounders and a 3rd, paid him $28million for 2 seasons and then let him go for a 4th round pick? He's due either 6million for the remaining 2 years or 6million for each depending on what I read.

Never should have drafted him in the first place, and the irony is that we have Purdy who started all 4 years at Iowa St and look at the difference. Some of it is just dumb luck but some of Purdy's success is because the guy's actually played a bunch and seen a lot.

The guy is going to walk away with between $34 or $40 million dollars after 4 years - guaranteed. He's set for life.

Edit: And he knows our playbook so send him to a division rival that we've played twice in the playoffs recently. If Shannahan backs him for success then why not keep him, the only other thing I can think of is he is such a total wash out struggling with the most basic things that they were happy with a 4th round pick.
[ Edited by SprintRightOption on Aug 26, 2023 at 8:05 AM ]
Originally posted by SprintRightOption:
so we draft a project QB who's played 14 games in college with a SB ready team, give away 3 first rounders and a 3rd, paid him $28million for 2 seasons and then let him go for a 4th round pick? He's due either 6million for the remaining 2 years or 6million for each depending on what I read.

Never should have drafted him in the first place, and the irony is that we have Purdy who started all 4 years at Iowa St and look at the difference. Some of it is just dumb luck but some of Purdy's success is because the guy's actually played a bunch and seen a lot.

The guy is going to walk away with between $34 or $40 million dollars after 4 years - guaranteed. He's set for life.

Edit: And he knows our playbook so send him to a division rival that we've played twice in the playoffs recently. If Shannahan backs him for success then why not keep him, the only other thing I can think of is he is such a total wash out struggling with the most basic things that they were happy with a 4th round pick.

Because Trey asked to be traded.
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by q0c0p:
It's simple. Kyle and the team wanted him to stay but trey didnt want to be here anymore. So who let who down? Who betrayed who? From my view it seems the team did trey a solid. They didnt have to trade him, they wanted him. Trey didnt want to be here. Just let this thread die or lock it now. He isnt even on the team. He didnt want to be here and now hes on our arch enemy. We dont need to root for this dude

Yeah, that's my read of it too. Once Trey didn't get the QB2 position, he wanted out. I'm also sure that Trey knows Purdy is going to be the QB1 here for a long time and won't be surpassing him (if ever) for a good half decade with Brock's game. At least in Dallas, Trey has time to develop, they wanted him, and I think once Trey reaches his potential, he'll be able to take the QB1 position from Dak.

Dak's a probowl calibur QB who's only 30, he's probably not going anywhere. Trey's probably only going to be a backup in this league as long as he grows a thicker skin. He'll probably not develop under M.McCarthy, especially when he couldn't under Kyle Shanahan.
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Damn, Kyle is implying Trey was the leaker...🐀

He also confirmed Trey asked to be traded, and they gave him permission to look for a new opportunity.

Kyle being very transparent. That was an interesting presser for a preaseason postgame. I suggest all 49er fans listen to it. It touched on many topics surrounding Trey.

He gave the impression at the end that he felt they had to move on and took money into consideration (7mil over two years)...

So he makes it seem like it's Trey's idea to want to be traded, but also that Kyle wanted to move on himself.

Reminds me of previous relationships I've been in where I would make the breakup seem like the other girl's idea.

Imo... we should've still saw what Brock looked like this season before moving on from our investment/potential and that rookie contract. That's worth 7mill imo.

He's not going to lie about that. Trey would call him out. Can't lie about that in front of the media.

Not saying he lied about that. More so pushed Trey to want to leave. Make it seem like is his own decision Imo.

I honestly do believe if Trey and Sam were able to play this last preseason game, and Kyle made the decision next week.. Trey wouldn't have requested a trade like that.

But with Kyle making the decision before that game.. making it obvious to Trey he really couldn't win the backup role back during the season through practice (like Kyle just said to the media)...it was basically going to be #3 the whole season. Imo Kyle forced the issue on purpose.

If he cared about giving us the best chance at winning a Super Bowl this season, he could have handled this in a better way to stay on Trey's good side... again I'm coming from the perspective if Trey had to come in this season.. he would still help us get wins.

But imo he just wanted Trey off this team and let everyone know Brock is the guy no matter what. We've seen that before in this league. I don't always agree with that approach, but it is what it is.

It sounds like you're just reasoning yourself into a position that Kyle was somehow at fault here.

Kyle delivered bad news to Trey and clearly Trey didn't want to be here after not getting what he felt he deserved. Trey could have taken the news like a professional and worked his tail off to improve his position on our depth chart. I very much doubt we'd be trading Trey for peanuts if he had not demanded to be traded.

Kyle said in the press conference that he basically told Trey it would have be virtually impossible for Trey to improve his position on the depth chart this season as the 3rd String QB.

How many times have we seen a number two QB s**t the bed and the next guy in line get a chance when the top QB is down with injury. Point is, as a professional who did nothing to earn the job, you put your head down and go to work, not demand a trade. It's a sign of immaturity and now Trey is the number three guy elsewhere.
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Sucks he couldn't develop quick enough for a SB contending team. That quick decision trading him to our rival for only a 4th leads me to believe the team did not believe in him.
Originally posted by SprintRightOption:
so we draft a project QB who's played 14 games in college with a SB ready team, give away 3 first rounders and a 3rd, paid him $28million for 2 seasons and then let him go for a 4th round pick? He's due either 6million for the remaining 2 years or 6million for each depending on what I read.

Never should have drafted him in the first place, and the irony is that we have Purdy who started all 4 years at Iowa St and look at the difference. Some of it is just dumb luck but some of Purdy's success is because the guy's actually played a bunch and seen a lot.

The guy is going to walk away with between $34 or $40 million dollars after 4 years - guaranteed. He's set for life.

Edit: And he knows our playbook so send him to a division rival that we've played twice in the playoffs recently. If Shannahan backs him for success then why not keep him, the only other thing I can think of is he is such a total wash out struggling with the most basic things that they were happy with a 4th round pick.

KS shot it straight, said TL had some bad breaks, but he had some opportunities too and he missed em, had a comp with Sam and lost that. So if he is losing a comp to Sam and QB3, how exactly does he help the team or have a path to play time, he doesn't and they like Allen, as emergency QB. It's a calculation, that he wont be developed enough to help our squad on the rook deal in any meaningful way.
I would have preferred that they keep him through this season but I guess he wasn't happy about being 3rd string. This whole debacle is the result of injuries. Injuries tJG that forced Trey into action too soon. Injuries to Trey that prevented the needed game action and practices. If JG could have stayed healthy long enough for themto really develop Trey and gradually move him intothe lineup then this whole story may have been different.

It's over now so it's time to move on. I hope Brock stays healthy because if we have to rely on Darnold for more than a couple games we're in trouble.
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Because Trey asked to be traded.

Yes, I just read that on other threads here. Makes sense as they sent him home the one day after he learned he'd be 3rd string. Bad attitude after all they invested in him. Maybe it's for the best but he was a cheap option and to send him to a division rival?

Maybe they have no thought that he'll pan out and just hasn't grasped the position despite what KS said about him having success one day.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I would have preferred that they keep him through this season but I guess he wasn't happy about being 3rd string. This whole debacle is the result of injuries. Injuries tJG that forced Trey into action too soon. Injuries to Trey that prevented the needed game action and practices. If JG could have stayed healthy long enough for themto really develop Trey and gradually move him intothe lineup then this whole story may have been different.

It's over now so it's time to move on. I hope Brock stays healthy because if we have to rely on Darnold for more than a couple games we're in trouble.

Me too. But I think Sam is a different QB with this roster.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I would have preferred that they keep him through this season but I guess he wasn't happy about being 3rd string. This whole debacle is the result of injuries. Injuries tJG that forced Trey into action too soon. Injuries to Trey that prevented the needed game action and practices. If JG could have stayed healthy long enough for themto really develop Trey and gradually move him intothe lineup then this whole story may have been different.

It's over now so it's time to move on. I hope Brock stays healthy because if we have to rely on Darnold for more than a couple games we're in trouble.

It's not Jimmy's fault Trey busted.
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does Trey even make the 53? Could be just trade and dump

LOL why would the Cowboys give up a 4th RD pick to just cut him a few days later?

What the Cowboys plan on doing is what the Niners should have done and that is develop him for the future. They will probally restructure his contract next year to make it more affordable. People forget he is only 23. There is no rush.
Trey didn't want to sit and develop.. Trey isn't going to get much help in Dallas

What? Where did you get that?
From Kyle, Kyle wanted Trey to stay. But Trey requested the trade

Yeah, looks like Trey wanted nothing to do with the injury 🐜🪲 nest at 49er headquarters. And Yeah, I think he was a bit too hasty in his decision about leaving and requesting a trade. But also, I think he has a shot at QB1 or QB2 with Dak (age 30) and Cooper (age 29) in the Dallas QB squad. By the time Trey develops - two or three years will have passed, Dak will be 33-ish.

I think Trey needed a new team mentally. He was drafted high, was an undisputed QB1 last season, he couldn't accept it mentally that he got demoted all the way to QB3. Too embarrasing.

I think many of us in that situation would probably do the same. If you got demoted twice in your job, you probably want to look for a new job with a different employer, even if the new job is the same level and pay as your current job after the demotion.

Also, age is not really a factor for Dak. QB can play pass 35 easily.
[ Edited by libertyforever on Aug 26, 2023 at 8:17 AM ]
Originally posted by jcs:
Dak's a probowl calibur QB who's only 30, he's probably not going anywhere. Trey's probably only going to be a backup in this league as long as he grows a thicker skin. He'll probably not develop under M.McCarthy, especially when he couldn't under Kyle Shanahan.

He has a 3rd and 4th year to develop under a guy or 2 that knows a thing or 2 about developing QBs.

That puts him @ being a 24 year old FA. He's got next to nothing to worry about over there and gets to relieve all of the "BUST" pressure he was having over here after falling behind Sam Darnold. Arrow up for him.
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by q0c0p:
It's simple. Kyle and the team wanted him to stay but trey didnt want to be here anymore. So who let who down? Who betrayed who? From my view it seems the team did trey a solid. They didnt have to trade him, they wanted him. Trey didnt want to be here. Just let this thread die or lock it now. He isnt even on the team. He didnt want to be here and now hes on our arch enemy. We dont need to root for this dude

Yeah, that's my read of it too. Once Trey didn't get the QB2 position, he wanted out. I'm also sure that Trey knows Purdy is going to be the QB1 here for a long time and won't be surpassing him (if ever) for a good half decade with Brock's game. At least in Dallas, Trey has time to develop, they wanted him, and I think once Trey reaches his potential, he'll be able to take the QB1 position from Dak.

Dak's a probowl calibur QB who's only 30, he's probably not going anywhere. Trey's probably only going to be a backup in this league as long as he grows a thicker skin. He'll probably not develop under M.McCarthy, especially when he couldn't under Kyle Shanahan.

I genuinely think he can be another Aaron Rodgers/Steve Young. Potentially. Now if he's not as mentally tough as Steve and Aaron and develops himself - nobody else can do it - then I'd be disappointed. McKarthy, Schottenhimer, and Tolzien are good coaches. McKarthy is actually the one that helped Aaron develop, so it's a good situation for Trey from a coaching standpoint. McKarthy's offense is very west coast timing like Kyle's but not as run heavy. If anybody can develop Trey it would be these guys. Keep in mind Trey asked for the Trade, Kyle wanted him to stay.
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