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Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread
Aug 26, 2023 at 3:29 PM
- SanDiego49er
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They wasted a 4th round pick.
Aug 26, 2023 at 3:34 PM
- billbird2111
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MOVED!
Aug 26, 2023 at 3:36 PM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by Afrikan:
b***h, f**k You.
What? Lol.
LMAO so aggressive
Aug 26, 2023 at 3:37 PM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Cowboys fans when we got Trey Lance
— Cameron Magruder (@ScooterMagruder) August 26, 2023
for a 4th round pick ???????? pic.twitter.com/BWVhyTA78i
"this is great for Trey lance, Dak will teach him everything he knows"
— Annie Agar (@AnnieAgar) August 25, 2023
also Dak: pic.twitter.com/ms7kAPuLek
Aug 26, 2023 at 3:40 PM
- RiceOwensStokes
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Originally posted by billbird2111:
MOVED!
Aug 26, 2023 at 3:43 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by genus49:
Trey tried to fight for his spot and I'm not sure he ever got a real shot at it. I don't have any issue with him asking to be traded considering the team never fully supported him and even when they named him QB1 last year they hedged their bets by bringing Jimmy back.
I disagree. The team gave him every opportunity considering the team was competing for the Super Bowl when he was drafted. It was a good situation for him to sit and learn for a year before facing live bullets. Bringing JG back was a wise move that protected the overall interests of the team, especially considering Lance had been injured. JG accepted the backup role with grace.
In the end, it was just a bad match overall.
Aug 26, 2023 at 3:59 PM
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by genus49:
Trey tried to fight for his spot and I'm not sure he ever got a real shot at it. I don't have any issue with him asking to be traded considering the team never fully supported him and even when they named him QB1 last year they hedged their bets by bringing Jimmy back.
I disagree. The team gave him every opportunity considering the team was competing for the Super Bowl when he was drafted. It was a good situation for him to sit and learn for a year before facing live bullets. Bringing JG back was a wise move that protected the overall interests of the team, especially considering Lance had been injured. JG accepted the backup role with grace.
In the end, it was just a bad match overall.
That was the part that didn't make sense. They say they were competing for a SB yet they draft a QB that wasn't nearly ready to play when the one they had was injured all the time. They had no real plan in place to develop a guy that was that inexperienced. A play here and therfe and a couple of starts wasn't going to do it.
Aug 26, 2023 at 4:08 PM
- genus49
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by genus49:
Trey tried to fight for his spot and I'm not sure he ever got a real shot at it. I don't have any issue with him asking to be traded considering the team never fully supported him and even when they named him QB1 last year they hedged their bets by bringing Jimmy back.
I disagree. The team gave him every opportunity considering the team was competing for the Super Bowl when he was drafted. It was a good situation for him to sit and learn for a year before facing live bullets. Bringing JG back was a wise move that protected the overall interests of the team, especially considering Lance had been injured. JG accepted the backup role with grace.
In the end, it was just a bad match overall.
It's ok to disagree but it's pretty evident from all accounts and the results that they weren't sold on Trey for long if ever.
They gave him the reigns last season but kept Jimmy around to hedge their bet with Trey.
It's hard for a young kid to win over the locker room when the team keeps the guy who battled and won and bonded with that locker room. You saw articles before even week 1 saying how if Trey struggles they will go with Jimmy.
Thats not a way to fully support your guy. Look at what the Patriots did with Mac Jones. They got rid of Cam Newton and made sure Jones could play loose and not worry about the proven vet behind him.
It is what it is and I don't get wtf we were thinking but they definitely didn't help Trey feel like they were 100% behind him as their guy.
Aug 26, 2023 at 4:12 PM
- Tigerlaw
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by genus49:
Trey tried to fight for his spot and I'm not sure he ever got a real shot at it. I don't have any issue with him asking to be traded considering the team never fully supported him and even when they named him QB1 last year they hedged their bets by bringing Jimmy back.
I disagree. The team gave him every opportunity considering the team was competing for the Super Bowl when he was drafted. It was a good situation for him to sit and learn for a year before facing live bullets. Bringing JG back was a wise move that protected the overall interests of the team, especially considering Lance had been injured. JG accepted the backup role with grace.
In the end, it was just a bad match overall.
It's ok to disagree but it's pretty evident from all accounts and the results that they weren't sold on Trey for long if ever.
They gave him the reigns last season but kept Jimmy around to hedge their bet with Trey.
It's hard for a young kid to win over the locker room when the team keeps the guy who battled and won and bonded with that locker room. You saw articles before even week 1 saying how if Trey struggles they will go with Jimmy.
Thats not a way to fully support your guy. Look at what the Patriots did with Mac Jones. They got rid of Cam Newton and made sure Jones could play loose and not worry about the proven vet behind him.
It is what it is and I don't get wtf we were thinking but they definitely didn't help Trey feel like they were 100% behind him as their guy.
Trey was done bc 2 unexpected events
-broke his ankle game 2 and lost an entire year he was set up to be starter
-Brock Purdy exploded onto the scene and took the job
Sometimes random s**t happens in life
Aug 26, 2023 at 4:15 PM
- genus49
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 1251alex:
In hindsight, there were hints that Trey didnt have the mentality to be our guy after the strip club pics after the horrible week 1 loss last season. And then being sent home after being told the QB3 news was not a good look. And asking for a trade instead of trying to fight for his place on the team that made him a top 3 pick? His mentality isn't what we need in a QB1.
Let's not kick the kid on the way out. The stupid strip "club" video was at a house party and long before the Chicago game.
Trey tried to fight for his spot and I'm not sure he ever got a real shot at it. I don't have any issue with him asking to be traded considering the team never fully supported him and even when they named him QB1 last year they hedged their bets by bringing Jimmy back.
He had the opportunity to stay and fight for the spot but had a tantrum and ran off to the Cowgirls. Unlike Jimmy G who had a never say die attitude and stayed in 21 and acted professional all year and won. Again in 22 Jimmy G ate humble pie and renegotiated his contract and accepted QB2 but was ready to step up and win again when his opportunity arose. Trey never had the never say die attitude and was never ready to lead the team despite it being given too him. I felt a little sorry for him at first but when I saw it was his decision to run off to the Cowgirls to be a QB3 I lost all respect. He wont develop there either because of his attitude. Note Brock Purdy was ready to ball when his opportunity arose and despite being injured in the NFC Championship he is ready earlier than expected to participate in TC and preseason games. Purdy played like the No3 pick of the draft was expected to play. Trey played and became Mr Irrelevant. The QB who never was.
OMG this isn't about Jimmy. Get over it.
First of all we don't know what Jimmy asked for or what he didn't. 49ers claiming Trey asked for a trade. Did Trey say that? Maybe he did or maybe it's a convenient way for the 49ers to sell it was a mutual decision.
I can guarantee you Trey would rather go to another team but the 49ers took the best offer so this whole "we did what's best for Trey" thing is GM speak. It was mutual if not more on the 49ers looking to move him. It was clear in hindsight with the moves they made this offseason. Trey isn't stupid. And this is an easy sell for fans "oh he wanted to be traded and went to a rival team"
Aug 26, 2023 at 4:16 PM
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 1251alex:
In hindsight, there were hints that Trey didnt have the mentality to be our guy after the strip club pics after the horrible week 1 loss last season. And then being sent home after being told the QB3 news was not a good look. And asking for a trade instead of trying to fight for his place on the team that made him a top 3 pick? His mentality isn't what we need in a QB1.
Let's not kick the kid on the way out. The stupid strip "club" video was at a house party and long before the Chicago game.
Trey tried to fight for his spot and I'm not sure he ever got a real shot at it. I don't have any issue with him asking to be traded considering the team never fully supported him and even when they named him QB1 last year they hedged their bets by bringing Jimmy back.
He had the opportunity to stay and fight for the spot but had a tantrum and ran off to the Cowgirls. Unlike Jimmy G who had a never say die attitude and stayed in 21 and acted professional all year and won. Again in 22 Jimmy G ate humble pie and renegotiated his contract and accepted QB2 but was ready to step up and win again when his opportunity arose. Trey never had the never say die attitude and was never ready to lead the team despite it being given too him. I felt a little sorry for him at first but when I saw it was his decision to run off to the Cowgirls to be a QB3 I lost all respect. He wont develop there either because of his attitude. Note Brock Purdy was ready to ball when his opportunity arose and despite being injured in the NFC Championship he is ready earlier than expected to participate in TC and preseason games. Purdy played like the No3 pick of the draft was expected to play. Trey played and became Mr Irrelevant. The QB who never was.
OMG this isn't about Jimmy. Get over it.
First of all we don't know what Jimmy asked for or what he didn't. 49ers claiming Trey asked for a trade. Did Trey say that? Maybe he did or maybe it's a convenient way for the 49ers to sell it was a mutual decision.
I can guarantee you Trey would rather go to another team but the 49ers took the best offer so this whole "we did what's best for Trey" thing is GM speak. It was mutual if not more on the 49ers looking to move him. It was clear in hindsight with the moves they made this offseason. Trey isn't stupid. And this is an easy sell for fans "oh he wanted to be traded and went to a rival team"
It isn't about jimmy yet your last posts included jimmy! Lol
Aug 26, 2023 at 4:23 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by genus49:
OMG this isn't about Jimmy. Get over it.
First of all we don't know what Jimmy asked for or what he didn't. 49ers claiming Trey asked for a trade. Did Trey say that? Maybe he did or maybe it's a convenient way for the 49ers to sell it was a mutual decision.
I can guarantee you Trey would rather go to another team but the 49ers took the best offer so this whole "we did what's best for Trey" thing is GM speak. It was mutual if not more on the 49ers looking to move him. It was clear in hindsight with the moves they made this offseason. Trey isn't stupid. And this is an easy sell for fans "oh he wanted to be traded and went to a rival team"
Yep.
Aug 26, 2023 at 4:29 PM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by genus49:
OMG this isn't about Jimmy. Get over it.
First of all we don't know what Jimmy asked for or what he didn't. 49ers claiming Trey asked for a trade. Did Trey say that? Maybe he did or maybe it's a convenient way for the 49ers to sell it was a mutual decision.
I can guarantee you Trey would rather go to another team but the 49ers took the best offer so this whole "we did what's best for Trey" thing is GM speak. It was mutual if not more on the 49ers looking to move him. It was clear in hindsight with the moves they made this offseason. Trey isn't stupid. And this is an easy sell for fans "oh he wanted to be traded and went to a rival team"
Yep.
It was clear as day that they were preparing to move on from Lance. I think they really did give him a fair shot to win QB2, and wanted to see if he could show enough to keep around, but they planned for not keeping him as well. Which is good team management. Many of us talked about this and got attacked for it.
going to Dallas isn't a great immediate situation for him but Not a bad situation. Gives him time to learn the system this year and keep grinding, next year he can compete for QB2. Then after 2024, see what they do with Dak. At least he can learn from McCarthy and Dak (LOL).
i expect them to use him like the saints used Taysum Hill. There really isn't a situation he could of went to where he would be starting, at least not this year.
Aug 26, 2023 at 4:36 PM
- Bay2Bay9erAllday
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Bye
Aug 26, 2023 at 5:01 PM
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Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 1251alex:
In hindsight, there were hints that Trey didnt have the mentality to be our guy after the strip club pics after the horrible week 1 loss last season. And then being sent home after being told the QB3 news was not a good look. And asking for a trade instead of trying to fight for his place on the team that made him a top 3 pick? His mentality isn't what we need in a QB1.
Let's not kick the kid on the way out. The stupid strip "club" video was at a house party and long before the Chicago game.
Trey tried to fight for his spot and I'm not sure he ever got a real shot at it. I don't have any issue with him asking to be traded considering the team never fully supported him and even when they named him QB1 last year they hedged their bets by bringing Jimmy back.
Genus, they made him qb 1 last year without competition. He was given a bigger chance than %90 of the players who get drafted. I don't hold it against him because I believe injuries were the main thing that derailed him here. But he got a really great chance to be unquestioned starter and injury robbed him of it, not the Niners. I wish him luck, unless he's playing against the Niners.