Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

While everyone else was on the brink of boycotting the team if they'd pick Mac Jones, I was banging on the table to not draft Trey, and was absolutely LIVID when they did, to this day I do not understand why he had so much hype around him, and up until the last few days if you dared question Lances skills anywhere on the internet to Niners fans, you better be prepared for personal attacks if not your fanhood being revoked. I don't claim to be some football guru or anything, just like everyone else prior to the draft I watched his highlights and read his profile and I just wasn't impressed at all. He had 1 noteworthy season at a small school where he played against players that will never sniff an nfl field. That isn't enough to be worthy of the 3rd overall pick, let alone THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS! Picks that could've been used to make this team better and who knows, maybe we actually win those nfc titles against Philly and/or LA. In reality Trey should've been a 4th or 5th round pick, and a long term development project who might've turned out to be good much later down the road, or he should've stayed in college for a few more years.

now with that said, I do not take any pride in questioning Trey Lance's skill as a QB at all, rival fans will no doubt use this as ammo against other Niners fans . But, and Im not just talking specifically on here, I can't help but think of all the so called Niners fans who endlessly went on and on about Trey and their unhealthy desire to see him play, especially in the 2021 season, it got so bad to the point where there were actual fans that would've rather see us lose with Trey Lance than win with Jimmy Garoppolo, and that's not an exaggeration. Say what you want about Jimmy, for whatever reason he just wasn't good enough to get us a Lombardi, but him along with Kaepernick will always be part of 49ers lore when discussing the success the organization has enjoyed throughout its history, nobody can ever say the same about Trey Lance under any circumstances. and instead of enjoying the moment, they whined in the corner that Trey Lance "would've done better". hopefully those fans go to Dallas with Trey tbh

and yes, contrary to some belief, Kyle Shanahan gave Trey Lance every opportunity to take the starting job, if Trey was as good as advertised, he would've easily won the starting job his rookie season, year 2 Shanahan gift wrapped him the starting job and had to lock Jimmy Garoppolo out the building to keep him from competing with Trey, and even then Treys backup Purdy was better than him, and this year after a full offseason healthy, he still couldn't beat out Purdy who spent most of the off-season in rehab or Sam freaking Darnold

Buckle up though boys, we will be hearing about this draft blunder as long as the nfl is in business. ESPN will likely make a documentary on this.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
So he's gonna be the 3rd stringer on the Cowboys as well?

Yup, at least for this year. They have dak making $60M next year against the cap, they resigned Cooper rush this off season to a two year deal. Then they trey'ded for Trey and owe him $6M over the next two years. Strange situation, idk what their plan is - they're the complete opposite of us, super expensive qb room. Lol

dak Gets hurts for a couple games each year the last few years, but cooper rush has went 5-1 in those games. So I don't think there is an urgency to replace him, especially since they gave him a 2 year deal (I think $5M deal this off season).

Watched a lot of that Grier guy last night...I did not realize that was the WV Touch Down Jesus guy....

I am guessing they want ARM in Dallas, Grier is closer to an unrefined Cooper Rush with more mobility, hence bringing in Lance.

That Grier dude tho....he has Elite touch in that 20-30 yard range... tons of deep touch passes in college and the NFL, He actually looks like Shanny QB. If he had a tad more velocity he would be unstoppable.

Will Grier 2018-19 Highlights || West Virginia QB || "Touchdown Jesus" || ᴴᴰ=LGeib5RjPz7MI_Bu

They should've just given the 9ers that 4th round pick and Grier. Could've stashed him away on the PS for the season.

If we are not going to keep Grier on the 53 (which we aren't going to do that), then there is no point to include Grier in the trade.

If we want Grier we can try to get him when the Cowboys release him.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
So he's gonna be the 3rd stringer on the Cowboys as well?

Yup, at least for this year. They have dak making $60M next year against the cap, they resigned Cooper rush this off season to a two year deal. Then they trey'ded for Trey and owe him $6M over the next two years. Strange situation, idk what their plan is - they're the complete opposite of us, super expensive qb room. Lol

dak Gets hurts for a couple games each year the last few years, but cooper rush has went 5-1 in those games. So I don't think there is an urgency to replace him, especially since they gave him a 2 year deal (I think $5M deal this off season).

Watched a lot of that Grier guy last night...I did not realize that was the WV Touch Down Jesus guy....

I am guessing they want ARM in Dallas, Grier is closer to an unrefined Cooper Rush with more mobility, hence bringing in Lance.

That Grier dude tho....he has Elite touch in that 20-30 yard range... tons of deep touch passes in college and the NFL, He actually looks like Shanny QB. If he had a tad more velocity he would be unstoppable.

Will Grier 2018-19 Highlights || West Virginia QB || "Touchdown Jesus" || ᴴᴰ=LGeib5RjPz7MI_Bu

They should've just given the 9ers that 4th round pick and Grier. Could've stashed him away on the PS for the season.

If we are not going to keep Grier on the 53 (which we aren't going to do that), then there is no point to include Grier in the trade.

If we want Grier we can try to get him when the Cowboys release him.

I doubt the 49ers want him, that is just me getting an oddball QB crush....

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
While everyone else was on the brink of boycotting the team if they'd pick Mac Jones, I was banging on the table to not draft Trey, and was absolutely LIVID when they did, and to this day I do not understand why he had so much hype around him, and up until the last few days if you dared question Lances skills anywhere on the internet to Niners fans, you better be prepared for personal attacks if not your fanhood being revoked. I don't claim to be some football guru or anything, just like everyone else prior to the draft I watched his highlights and read his profile and I just wasn't impressed at all. He had 1 noteworthy season at a small school where he played against players that will never sniff an nfl field. That isn't enough to be worthy of the 3rd overall pick, let alone THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS! Picks that could've been used to make this team better and who knows, maybe we actually win those nfc titles against Philly and/or LA. In reality Trey should've been a 4th or 5th round pick, and a long term development project who might've turned out to be good much later down the road, or he should've stayed in college for a few more years.

now with that said, I do not take any pride in questioning Trey Lance's skill as a QB at all, rival fans will no doubt use this as ammo against other Niners fans . But, and Im not just talking specifically on here, I can't help but think of all the so called Niners fans who endlessly went on and on about Trey and their unhealthy desire to see him play, especially in the 2021 season, it got so bad to the point where there were actual fans that would've rather see us lose with Trey Lance than win with Jimmy Garoppolo, and that's not an exaggeration. Say what you want about Jimmy, for whatever reason he just wasn't good enough to get us a Lombardi, but him along with Kaepernick will always be part of 49ers lore when discussing the success the organization has enjoyed throughout its history, nobody can ever say the same about Trey Lance under any circumstances. and instead of enjoying the moment, they whined in the corner that Trey Lance "would've done better". hopefully those fans go to Dallas with Trey tbh

and yes, contrary to some belief, Kyle Shanahan gave Trey Lance every opportunity to take the starting job, if Trey was as good as advertised, he would've easily won the starting job his rookie season, year 2 Shanahan gift wrapped him the starting job and had to lock Jimmy Garoppolo out the building to keep him from competing with Trey, and even then Treys backup Purdy was better than him, and this year after a full offseason healthy, he still couldn't beat out Purdy who spent most of the off-season in rehab or Sam freaking Darnold

Buckle up though boys, we will be hearing about this draft blunder as long as the nfl is in business. ESPN will likely make a documentary on this.

something that always bothered me, Trey was a game manager in college. That isn't a knock, it's just how that program is built - they win no matter who the QB is. Trey did a good job there, no doubt, but I didn't find it to be NFL quality play. I felt like we drafted a game manager and not someone that had the ability to elevate the team.

investing a lot of time, energy, and hope into a player is a dangerous thing because you can get really emotional about them. When you're emotional, you're irrational. That is what happened with some people (Not saying anything specifically, just what you're talking about). People were hanging onto a couple nice plays/throws that he had and overlooked/ignored the rest of his play, propping that up as a reason he should be playing.

The fact that the team sent him to the Cowboys, should tell you everything about what the team actually thinks of him and his potential... they wouldn't send him there if they actually believed he has the potential to be a good qb.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
While everyone else was on the brink of boycotting the team if they'd pick Mac Jones, I was banging on the table to not draft Trey, and was absolutely LIVID when they did, and to this day I do not understand why he had so much hype around him, and up until the last few days if you dared question Lances skills anywhere on the internet to Niners fans, you better be prepared for personal attacks if not your fanhood being revoked. I don't claim to be some football guru or anything, just like everyone else prior to the draft I watched his highlights and read his profile and I just wasn't impressed at all. He had 1 noteworthy season at a small school where he played against players that will never sniff an nfl field. That isn't enough to be worthy of the 3rd overall pick, let alone THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS! Picks that could've been used to make this team better and who knows, maybe we actually win those nfc titles against Philly and/or LA. In reality Trey should've been a 4th or 5th round pick, and a long term development project who might've turned out to be good much later down the road, or he should've stayed in college for a few more years.

now with that said, I do not take any pride in questioning Trey Lance's skill as a QB at all, rival fans will no doubt use this as ammo against other Niners fans . But, and Im not just talking specifically on here, I can't help but think of all the so called Niners fans who endlessly went on and on about Trey and their unhealthy desire to see him play, especially in the 2021 season, it got so bad to the point where there were actual fans that would've rather see us lose with Trey Lance than win with Jimmy Garoppolo, and that's not an exaggeration. Say what you want about Jimmy, for whatever reason he just wasn't good enough to get us a Lombardi, but him along with Kaepernick will always be part of 49ers lore when discussing the success the organization has enjoyed throughout its history, nobody can ever say the same about Trey Lance under any circumstances. and instead of enjoying the moment, they whined in the corner that Trey Lance "would've done better". hopefully those fans go to Dallas with Trey tbh

and yes, contrary to some belief, Kyle Shanahan gave Trey Lance every opportunity to take the starting job, if Trey was as good as advertised, he would've easily won the starting job his rookie season, year 2 Shanahan gift wrapped him the starting job and had to lock Jimmy Garoppolo out the building to keep him from competing with Trey, and even then Treys backup Purdy was better than him, and this year after a full offseason healthy, he still couldn't beat out Purdy who spent most of the off-season in rehab or Sam freaking Darnold

Buckle up though boys, we will be hearing about this draft blunder as long as the nfl is in business. ESPN will likely make a documentary on this.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
While everyone else was on the brink of boycotting the team if they'd pick Mac Jones, I was banging on the table to not draft Trey, and was absolutely LIVID when they did, and to this day I do not understand why he had so much hype around him, and up until the last few days if you dared question Lances skills anywhere on the internet to Niners fans, you better be prepared for personal attacks if not your fanhood being revoked. I don't claim to be some football guru or anything, just like everyone else prior to the draft I watched his highlights and read his profile and I just wasn't impressed at all. He had 1 noteworthy season at a small school where he played against players that will never sniff an nfl field. That isn't enough to be worthy of the 3rd overall pick, let alone THREE FIRST ROUND PICKS! Picks that could've been used to make this team better and who knows, maybe we actually win those nfc titles against Philly and/or LA. In reality Trey should've been a 4th or 5th round pick, and a long term development project who might've turned out to be good much later down the road, or he should've stayed in college for a few more years.

now with that said, I do not take any pride in questioning Trey Lance's skill as a QB at all, rival fans will no doubt use this as ammo against other Niners fans . But, and Im not just talking specifically on here, I can't help but think of all the so called Niners fans who endlessly went on and on about Trey and their unhealthy desire to see him play, especially in the 2021 season, it got so bad to the point where there were actual fans that would've rather see us lose with Trey Lance than win with Jimmy Garoppolo, and that's not an exaggeration. Say what you want about Jimmy, for whatever reason he just wasn't good enough to get us a Lombardi, but him along with Kaepernick will always be part of 49ers lore when discussing the success the organization has enjoyed throughout its history, nobody can ever say the same about Trey Lance under any circumstances. and instead of enjoying the moment, they whined in the corner that Trey Lance "would've done better". hopefully those fans go to Dallas with Trey tbh

and yes, contrary to some belief, Kyle Shanahan gave Trey Lance every opportunity to take the starting job, if Trey was as good as advertised, he would've easily won the starting job his rookie season, year 2 Shanahan gift wrapped him the starting job and had to lock Jimmy Garoppolo out the building to keep him from competing with Trey, and even then Treys backup Purdy was better than him, and this year after a full offseason healthy, he still couldn't beat out Purdy who spent most of the off-season in rehab or Sam freaking Darnold

Buckle up though boys, we will be hearing about this draft blunder as long as the nfl is in business. ESPN will likely make a documentary on this.

Well said. Hopefully the Mr. Irrelevant doc surpasses that one.

Kyle had seen enough.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d-5aYmdsLsE

Originally posted by Heroism:
Kyle had seen enough.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d-5aYmdsLsE

and we had clown Cohn saying 'TL is QB2, it's over' while all this was going on

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Kyle had seen enough.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d-5aYmdsLsE

and we had clown Cohn saying 'TL is QB2, it's over' while all this was going on

I thought Cohn believed Trey should be QB1 and not QB2.

crazy how he wasn't worth a damn thing after 4 games… you know it's bad when the best offer was a fourth and nothing else was anywhere close. I still want an explanation of why his value tanked so much. I think it's a combination of his poor film and how far he is from being someone you can play.

"According to The Athletic's Diana Russini, the Ravens, Bills and Lions all had interest in picking up the former first-round pick.

So, why did the 49ers choose the Cowboys? It all had to do with the 2024 fourth-round pick Dallas sent in return for Lance. As for the offers from other teams? 49ers general manager John Lynch said it "wasn't anywhere close" to a fourth-round pick, per San Francisco Chronicle's Eric Branch."

Funny thing is that we ended up with our guy regardless, doesn't matter how you get there as long as you get there. I think Purdy is going to put up numbers we haven't seen since Jeff Garcia. If that happens those late rd 1st's will be a distant memory.

People keep saying it was never personal with Trey but yet here they are still trashing him 4 days after he was traded when he has done nothing but handle everything with class since he was drafted. It's pretty embarrassing. I still think among some(not all) that race played a part in their hatred and part of it also is they blame him for Jimmy no longer being here. Now I think with some it's the trade up and what they invested but then that hate should be directed at Kyle and John, Not Trey. But yet Kyle and John are getting no blame and even getting praise.

I said since Kyle drafted him that he, John, and Trey are joint at the hip. The one can't look bad without the other. If Trey fails, Kyle and John fail. This was their guy. But it's like alot of Niner fans are distancing Trey from the people who drafted him.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
People keep saying it was never personal with Trey but yet here they are still trashing him 4 days after he was traded when he has done nothing but handle everything with class since he was drafted. It's pretty embarrassing. I still think among some(not all) that race played a part in their hatred and part of it also is they blame him for Jimmy no longer being here. Now I think with some it's the trade up and what they invested but then that hate should be directed at Kyle and John, Not Trey. But yet Kyle and John are getting no blame and even getting praise.

I said since Kyle drafted him that he, John, and Trey are joint at the hip. The one can't look bad without the other. If Trey fails, Kyle and John fail. This was their guy. But it's like alot of Niner fans are distancing Trey from the people who drafted him.

Kyle and John got no blame? I think you are being ridiculously biased here. Just go to their threads and it won't take long to find the posts trashing them.

I don't know how the race part can played with Trey only and not other players such as Fred, Trent, and others. I don't even know how many of them are African Americans, but I would estimate that to be the majority of the players in this team and in this league.

Kyle said he wanted Trey stay with the team as the QB3 role, but Trey choose to leave. Logical or not, some fans wouldn't like that. I think that is pretty normal.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
People keep saying it was never personal with Trey but yet here they are still trashing him 4 days after he was traded when he has done nothing but handle everything with class since he was drafted. It's pretty embarrassing. I still think among some(not all) that race played a part in their hatred and part of it also is they blame him for Jimmy no longer being here. Now I think with some it's the trade up and what they invested but then that hate should be directed at Kyle and John, Not Trey. But yet Kyle and John are getting no blame and even getting praise.

I said since Kyle drafted him that he, John, and Trey are joint at the hip. The one can't look bad without the other. If Trey fails, Kyle and John fail. This was their guy. But it's like alot of Niner fans are distancing Trey from the people who drafted him.

Lol first of all, no one is mad/disappointed at Trey the person. Just Trey the football player. I've never heard or read anything ever putting down Trey as a man/person.

second, no one is distancing themselves from Kyle & Lynch because they're really good at their job. Kyle has had us in contention for the superbowl every year when the team is healthy and John Lynch & Co have built one of the best, if not the best, roster in the NFL. They made one big ass mistake that, so far, hasn't even hurt the team. it hasn't hurt the team because they're really good at their job.

so what you're saying is ridiculous. You want them in trouble because someone youve heavily invested your emotions in didnt work out and you're upset about it. we blew a 3rd overall pick, and two 29th overall picks on him. It sucks but it isn't the end of the world.

If you want to be upset, be upset at yourself for thinking Trey would be good and/or ready to play in the league. be upset kyle & john thought Lance was worth the pick and not Fields/Jones.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mutant-man49:

Originally posted by 9erguy:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Kaepernick 2.0

YOU PASSED ON JUSTIN FIELDS!!!!



super bowl drought will continue

This is how I feel, hope I'm wrong

Clowns

Anyone who watches Lance and sees Kap probably learned most of their football knowledge from Madden.

Comparing Lance to Kap was an insult to Kap

I agree. Kap did some great things for a couple of years. This team is more talented offensively and I can't see Trey having the run Kap did 2012 - 2013 season.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I love it. Lol hopefully Lance learns how fortunate he was here. Sometimes the grass isn't greener

He wasn't fortunate here IMO. Both situations are bad for him. At least expectations will be lower in Dallas, if that actually means anything.

The media circus that follows around Dallas will chew him up and spit him out, at least the coaching staff and front office here felt responsible for him and had a stake in his final outcome to save part of their reputation, not to mention kind words flowing from the locker room and media and probably most importantly a very voc888al set of 49er fans.

Now he is heading to a team that appears to have no plan for him when they picked him up, he is sitting at 3 again behind a cult like figure in Cooper Rush...and to top that all off the dude he is replacing just had a nearly perfect game. Grier is coming off a preseason he went 67 of 84 for 604 yard with 4tds passing....in preseason....

Trey is behind an 8 ball, and the narratives are ready to write themselves. This does not look like a forgiving situation to ask for forgiveness in as you struggle along in your development.

Trey screwed himself.....

Definitely. He is in the same spot with a more entrenched starter. At least with the 49ers, there was a slight chance and he knows this system- three straight training camps here. Idk...crazy to me that he wouldn't want to beat out Darnold.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by mutant-man49:

Originally posted by 9erguy:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Kaepernick 2.0

YOU PASSED ON JUSTIN FIELDS!!!!



super bowl drought will continue

This is how I feel, hope I'm wrong

Clowns

Anyone who watches Lance and sees Kap probably learned most of their football knowledge from Madden.

Comparing Lance to Kap was an insult to Kap

I meant in terms of style. The only things they had in common were tattoos and skin tone.