Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by bigpete50:
I'm starting to become annoyed with many of Niner Nation. Almost reminds me of the old saying "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." It's a perfect analogy of what's happening post Trey trade.
Now we have all the Trey fans sitting on their hands waiting for the season to start so they can criticize every Purdy interception or poor play call by Kyle. Problem is there are a ton of these punks happy to sabotage our season to prove a point.
It is like a pack of angry women and it's sad to see. My advice? Grow a pair. Trey is now a Cowboy. Time to move on! Mistakes happen. Niners made a big mistake with Trey. Everyone knows this by now. Time to move on and look ahead. Still upset Trey was traded? Take a deep breath and let it go!
He was never going to fit into this offense. Niners tried, Niners failed. What else do you guys want to hear? Accept it and don't be a pack of women out for vengeance. Trust me, it's not a good look!
I think I speak for a lot of posters that believed Jimmy's level of play would not result in a championship, specifically in the playoffs.
The moment the last pick in the draft came in and immediately put up numbers comparable to the best QBs in the league, that belief that we needed an upgrade was justified.
Go back and look at the thread last season which asked "is our season over" after Jimmy's injury and you'll see most of the posters who were pessimistic were huge supporters of Jimmy, not Trey. Now they act like they've believed in Brock all along, but in reality they just didn't believe in Trey or trust Kyle to win without Jimmy.
Hence, the Trey vs Brock thing was always overblown on this forum, because that was not the main divide in this fanbase.
What it was, was the group of posters that believed since 2017 the Jimmy G was a large portion of our success, due to Kyle's record with and without him vs fans that knew this team was all around talented, and they win outside the QB position more than any team and an upgrade to the QB position was the most important thing we needed to put us over the top.
I was a believer in Trey, and I'm a much bigger believer in Purdy now. Which seems to contradict your framework.
It couldn't have been due to the fact Purdy was Mr Irrelevant and a rookie. Something that had never been done before. But I get it, you have a narrative to push, so go on lol
It's not narrative pushing to acknowledge that.
And its not a conspiracy to say the harshest critics of Kyle Shanahan were some of the biggest believers in Jimmy. That's just reality. Again, some people really bought into the idea that Kyle couldn't win without Jimmy. I assume because that was the narrative pushed by most NFL shows, ESPN, NFL Network... and so on.
They go hand in hand IMO.
Now, it wouldn't be accurate to say everyone who was a huge fan of Jimmy thought our season was over, absolutely not. There were fans who believed Trey would be the future that thought our season was over, and vice versa.
Am I generalizing, of course.. but is it accurate to say? Yes.
using that as supporting evidence makes it come across as narrative pushing. Purdy was a rookie. Last pick in the draft. Nobody had an idea what we had at that point. I really liked what I saw in the dolphins game, and really thought we had something. But I don't blame others for not being sold right away. It's silly to use that as evidence for not believing in Lance or Kyle winning without Jimmy.
And posters didn't believe Kyle couldn't win without Jimmy. That's more narrative pushing. It was more like posters believed Kyle was more likely to win with Jimmy than any other option he had at his disposal up to that point. And the proof is in the pudding. So I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm sure if we had traded for Brady or Rodgers, or any proven QB, nobody would be hesitant in Kyle winning without Jimmy.
Who's more likely to blame the OL or coaching for the SB or NFC championship loss, someone who thought highly of our QB play, or someone who didn't? I'll wait.
But, however you slice it, many fans this offseason have tried to make this Brock vs Trey argument. I can show you post after post of replies I got where someone assumed I wanted Trey to start over Brock… simply because I defended Trey. That was never the case. It was pure projection on their part.
And in those posts, I never once claimed to know Trey would be a good QB, I just defended him against claims that were and still are unknowable. Like assuming he was in Hawaii not working out due to a social media post, or claiming the team hated him, or that Kyle hated him, or pretending to know the context of the team meeting during the 2022 offseason.
There's a reason why I criticize Faithful6 and not Hysterikal for example. Hysterikal made a "Trey is trash" joke, yet he's always held QBs to the same standard. He mocks everyone when it's appropriate and doesn't get defensive towards criticism about someone he likes. My issue is with posters who cried wolf about Jimmy for years, making everything about "haterism" towards their QB, and yet they turn around and do worse to Trey. Mocking him, calling him nicknames, all the stuff they would blow a gasket if it was against Jimmy. It's absolutely hypocritical whether you want to acknowledge that or not. But of course you don't because you fall into that category.
I made an unbiased poll about "who holds the offense back more" with Jimmy and Kyle the only options.
It was an incredibly simplistic question, even a dumb question, but what it's not was biased.
Yet you claimed it was hatred towards Jimmy, along with many others, yet not one poster claimed it was hatred towards Kyle. And Kyle was leading in votes for several days.
