Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I know when I want the real scoop I go to Field Yates to get it.

I usually check to Twitter to see who teams are drafting. If "p***ypounder69" doesn't like who we are picking then I know our FO won't draft them.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bullrush42:
Field Yates just said on PMT that he 100% believes they made the trade to draft Mac Jones then he actually thinks they were swayed by online negativity.

I believe that to be the case as well and that is even worse than completely missing on Lance. Shows they don't have enough conviction.

Imagine thinking that our FO or NFL FOs for the matter draft based on what people on Twitter were saying. Like I said, stick back to lurking, making intelligent posts are not your forte.

right. hahah I highly doubt that kind of stuff is remotely considered. Try telling kyle "you cant have the guy you want because fan backlash =/" hahaha

I think they initially had Mac Jones as the favorite but as time went on and they studied the guys, they fell in love with Lance the person. I think they also gravely underestimated how raw he was. that to me was their biggest mistake, they assumed he would blossom and do it quickly. I thought he was way too inexperianced and not enough film to even know if he can play at this level. I remember kyle saying something like he thought Lance was the most pro ready out of the group.

so I think they projected lance to be a lot further ahead than he was/is. then as he got exposed to things, it was clear that he can't play at the level they hoped (at least not anytime soon).

I still think that trading him to Dallas is telling that they don't believe he will ever be a threat. otherwise, it would just be ridiculously dumb to send him there if they believed he could be a top tier qb. I personally never thought lance would be, but time will tell.

I can't say I'm surprised with how raw he was coming into the league. I was definitely pulling for us to draft Fields, but once the pick was Lance, was hoping he would pan out and I was gonna root for him.

I know I'm pretty crazy for wanting the QB we spent 3 first round picks to do good and give Kyle / FO benefit of the doubt that they know more about football than Goatie lol. How dare I root for Trey and want to move on from Jimmy that proved year after year he's not going to be that FQB. But I get it, he had a great smile and he was likeable! Stupid me for wanting an elite QB! Oh well hopefully Purdy plays like he did last year and we will have a true FQB if he does.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bullrush42:
Field Yates just said on PMT that he 100% believes they made the trade to draft Mac Jones then he actually thinks they were swayed by online negativity.

I believe that to be the case as well and that is even worse than completely missing on Lance. Shows they don't have enough conviction.

Imagine thinking that our FO or NFL FOs for the matter draft based on what people on Twitter were saying. Like I said, stick back to lurking, making intelligent posts are not your forte.

right. hahah I highly doubt that kind of stuff is remotely considered. Try telling kyle "you cant have the guy you want because fan backlash =/" hahaha

I think they initially had Mac Jones as the favorite but as time went on and they studied the guys, they fell in love with Lance the person. I think they also gravely underestimated how raw he was. that to me was their biggest mistake, they assumed he would blossom and do it quickly. I thought he was way too inexperianced and not enough film to even know if he can play at this level. I remember kyle saying something like he thought Lance was the most pro ready out of the group.

so I think they projected lance to be a lot further ahead than he was/is. then as he got exposed to things, it was clear that he can't play at the level they hoped (at least not anytime soon).

I still think that trading him to Dallas is telling that they don't believe he will ever be a threat. otherwise, it would just be ridiculously dumb to send him there if they believed he could be a top tier qb. I personally never thought lance would be, but time will tell.

This is almost just as bad, just shows an all time bad evaluation.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bullrush42:
Field Yates just said on PMT that he 100% believes they made the trade to draft Mac Jones then he actually thinks they were swayed by online negativity.

I believe that to be the case as well and that is even worse than completely missing on Lance. Shows they don't have enough conviction.

Imagine thinking that our FO or NFL FOs for the matter draft based on what people on Twitter were saying. Like I said, stick back to lurking, making intelligent posts are not your forte.

right. hahah I highly doubt that kind of stuff is remotely considered. Try telling kyle "you cant have the guy you want because fan backlash =/" hahaha

I think they initially had Mac Jones as the favorite but as time went on and they studied the guys, they fell in love with Lance the person. I think they also gravely underestimated how raw he was. that to me was their biggest mistake, they assumed he would blossom and do it quickly. I thought he was way too inexperianced and not enough film to even know if he can play at this level. I remember kyle saying something like he thought Lance was the most pro ready out of the group.

so I think they projected lance to be a lot further ahead than he was/is. then as he got exposed to things, it was clear that he can't play at the level they hoped (at least not anytime soon).

I still think that trading him to Dallas is telling that they don't believe he will ever be a threat. otherwise, it would just be ridiculously dumb to send him there if they believed he could be a top tier qb. I personally never thought lance would be, but time will tell.

I can't say I'm surprised with how raw he was coming into the league. I was definitely pulling for us to draft Fields, but once the pick was Lance, was hoping he would pan out and I was gonna root for him.

I know I'm pretty crazy for wanting the QB we spent 3 first round picks to do good and give Kyle / FO benefit of the doubt that they know more about football than Goatie lol. How dare I root for Trey and want to move on from Jimmy that proved year after year he's not going to be that FQB. But I get it, he had a great smile and he was likeable! Stupid me for wanting an elite QB! Oh well hopefully Purdy plays like he did last year and we will have a true FQB if he does.

I wanted him to work out too, but I was also hoping for Fields. I never started criticizing the pick until about a year ago. I was always uneasy about it, but Kyle knows better than me so I remained cautiously optimistic.
i liked Jimmy, and I wasn't opposed to moving off of him, I just didn't think Lance was ready. which is tricky because you have to develop lance through playing him. I just didn't think lance was near ready, so I was uneasy about the transition.

I agree though, we need better than Jimmy. I'm happy with where we are with Brock, I hope it continues to go well - I'd love a franchise QB.

I just wish lance went to a different team because I planned on rooting for him, but not if he's a cowboy. lol somehow Jimmy went to the raiders and Lance to the cowboys - making it really hard for me to root for them cause I think they're good people. lol Alex and Montana went to the Chiefs, so it was easy to root for them.

Originally posted by Bullrush42:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bullrush42:
Field Yates just said on PMT that he 100% believes they made the trade to draft Mac Jones then he actually thinks they were swayed by online negativity.

I believe that to be the case as well and that is even worse than completely missing on Lance. Shows they don't have enough conviction.

Imagine thinking that our FO or NFL FOs for the matter draft based on what people on Twitter were saying. Like I said, stick back to lurking, making intelligent posts are not your forte.

right. hahah I highly doubt that kind of stuff is remotely considered. Try telling kyle "you cant have the guy you want because fan backlash =/" hahaha

I think they initially had Mac Jones as the favorite but as time went on and they studied the guys, they fell in love with Lance the person. I think they also gravely underestimated how raw he was. that to me was their biggest mistake, they assumed he would blossom and do it quickly. I thought he was way too inexperianced and not enough film to even know if he can play at this level. I remember kyle saying something like he thought Lance was the most pro ready out of the group.

so I think they projected lance to be a lot further ahead than he was/is. then as he got exposed to things, it was clear that he can't play at the level they hoped (at least not anytime soon).

I still think that trading him to Dallas is telling that they don't believe he will ever be a threat. otherwise, it would just be ridiculously dumb to send him there if they believed he could be a top tier qb. I personally never thought lance would be, but time will tell.

This is almost just as bad, just shows an all time bad evaluation.

it's bad either way. this is a historically bad miss, there is no way around that. it sucks but there is still a chance we walk away with a FQB, so I'm really hoping brock is the guy we all desire.

remember the good times guys.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Bullrush42:
Field Yates just said on PMT that he 100% believes they made the trade to draft Mac Jones then he actually thinks they were swayed by online negativity.

I believe that to be the case as well and that is even worse than completely missing on Lance. Shows they don't have enough conviction.

Imagine thinking that our FO or NFL FOs for the matter draft based on what people on Twitter were saying. Like I said, stick back to lurking, making intelligent posts are not your forte.

right. hahah I highly doubt that kind of stuff is remotely considered. Try telling kyle "you cant have the guy you want because fan backlash =/" hahaha

I think they initially had Mac Jones as the favorite but as time went on and they studied the guys, they fell in love with Lance the person. I think they also gravely underestimated how raw he was. that to me was their biggest mistake, they assumed he would blossom and do it quickly. I thought he was way too inexperianced and not enough film to even know if he can play at this level. I remember kyle saying something like he thought Lance was the most pro ready out of the group.

so I think they projected lance to be a lot further ahead than he was/is. then as he got exposed to things, it was clear that he can't play at the level they hoped (at least not anytime soon).

I still think that trading him to Dallas is telling that they don't believe he will ever be a threat. otherwise, it would just be ridiculously dumb to send him there if they believed he could be a top tier qb. I personally never thought lance would be, but time will tell.

I can't say I'm surprised with how raw he was coming into the league. I was definitely pulling for us to draft Fields, but once the pick was Lance, was hoping he would pan out and I was gonna root for him.

I know I'm pretty crazy for wanting the QB we spent 3 first round picks to do good and give Kyle / FO benefit of the doubt that they know more about football than Goatie lol. How dare I root for Trey and want to move on from Jimmy that proved year after year he's not going to be that FQB. But I get it, he had a great smile and he was likeable! Stupid me for wanting an elite QB! Oh well hopefully Purdy plays like he did last year and we will have a true FQB if he does.

I wanted him to work out too, but I was also hoping for Fields. I never started criticizing the pick until about a year ago. I was always uneasy about it, but Kyle knows better than me so I remained cautiously optimistic.
i liked Jimmy, and I wasn't opposed to moving off of him, I just didn't think Lance was ready. which is tricky because you have to develop lance through playing him. I just didn't think lance was near ready, so I was uneasy about the transition.

I agree though, we need better than Jimmy. I'm happy with where we are with Brock, I hope it continues to go well - I'd love a franchise QB.

I just wish lance went to a different team because I planned on rooting for him, but not if he's a cowboy. lol somehow Jimmy went to the raiders and Lance to the cowboys - making it really hard for me to root for them cause I think they're good people. lol Alex and Montana went to the Chiefs, so it was easy to root for them.

I can see know though why Kyle didn't want Fields, he's basically just a very good RB right now lol.

Just understanding the basic Kyle, it looks he wanted a QB with the physical traits, but that he himself can mold into his perfect QB. Easier said than done obviously.

And we know Kyle enough by now that he doesn't have a lot of patience. Trey was the type of QB that actually really needed to play and get those snaps. But I also understand his mindset is to win the games and not have to baby sit a raw QB and force the rest of the roster to go through those growing pains.

But wtf did we expect him to do? We had to move on from Jimmy. We tried the year Brady was a FA, we tried asking about Rodgers, we tried Stafford, so it was obvious a move had to be made. Outside of Watson that was a huge red flag, there wasn't another QB available on the open market. I liked the move and also can't fault Kyle too much on this and plus who knows what could've been if Trey wasn't injured year one and then also his ankle year two, could've gotten those much needed reps and maybe he would've turned out okay.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I can see know though why Kyle didn't want Fields, he's basically just a very good RB right now lol.

Just understanding the basic Kyle, it looks he wanted a QB with the physical traits, but that he himself can mold into his perfect QB. Easier said than done obviously.

And we know Kyle enough by now that he doesn't have a lot of patience. Trey was the type of QB that actually really needed to play and get those snaps. But I also understand his mindset is to win the games and not have to baby sit a raw QB and force the rest of the roster to go through those growing pains.

But wtf did we expect him to do? We had to move on from Jimmy. We tried the year Brady was a FA, we tried asking about Rodgers, we tried Stafford, so it was obvious a move had to be made. Outside of Watson that was a huge red flag, there wasn't another QB available on the open market. I liked the move and also can't fault Kyle too much on this and plus who knows what could've been if Trey wasn't injured year one and then also his ankle year two, could've gotten those much needed reps and maybe he would've turned out okay.

Just yesterday...

Unless you think you understand the team better than Kyle and know what he wants scheme wise / players wise ...

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
I can see know though why Kyle didn't want Fields, he's basically just a very good RB right now lol.

Just understanding the basic Kyle, it looks he wanted a QB with the physical traits, but that he himself can mold into his perfect QB. Easier said than done obviously.

And we know Kyle enough by now that he doesn't have a lot of patience. Trey was the type of QB that actually really needed to play and get those snaps. But I also understand his mindset is to win the games and not have to baby sit a raw QB and force the rest of the roster to go through those growing pains.

But wtf did we expect him to do? We had to move on from Jimmy. We tried the year Brady was a FA, we tried asking about Rodgers, we tried Stafford, so it was obvious a move had to be made. Outside of Watson that was a huge red flag, there wasn't another QB available on the open market. I liked the move and also can't fault Kyle too much on this and plus who knows what could've been if Trey wasn't injured year one and then also his ankle year two, could've gotten those much needed reps and maybe he would've turned out okay.

Just yesterday...

Unless you think you understand the team better than Kyle and know what he wants scheme wise / players wise ...

Buddy you're taking this out of context and I even said "basic". And lol you just getting that out of the entire post. I'm sorry he didn't want Mac, you really need to get over this already...

Either way I think that draft pick proved that Kyle wanted a QB that can "do it all", hence why he picked him lmao. What more proof do you want?

Maybe I worded it badly but Kyles system isn't a QB who can just make short throws. I know some of you think that, even though his track record insists that he works with what he has.

Purdy so far has shown he can do a good amount of things and use the entire field. I don't think me saying he wants these things is going out on a limb, every coach would want a QB that can open up their entire playbook or close to it.

He wanted Jimmy gone and didn't want another Jimmy clone, aka Mac. Instead he drafted a player that hoped he would be able to do it all, just didn't work out with Trey.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jimmy3233:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

He had a point. Dak Prescott is great if all you care about is Fantasy points.

The game last night that Zeke had what 20 yards. And then the defense and a holding called costed him the game along with a kicker who missed a lay up. But yeah Daks just for fantasy points.

hes getting paid 40 million + and is one of the highest paid QBs in the league despite a garbage resume and coming back from major leg surgery so he needs to make the plays to win the game at the end of the day. dallas def and tb def were both trash. there are no excuses.

if jimmy had his game stats and we lost you and other pseudofans on his forum would clamoring that Jimmy G sucked and was responsible for losing.

Good call Gore

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:
Burrow would go before Dak in a redraft 10 out of 10 times. Dak is solid, that's it. Give Burrow that o line Dallas has had, with Cooper and EE and look out.
Dak is now overpaid, coming off an injury, and got the Cowboys handcuffed.

I think tonight showed how well you obviously know the QB position

Hold up, did people in here actually think Dak was better than Burrow?

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:


remember the good times guys.

do you mean, good time?

Originally posted by Bullrush42:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by jimmy3233:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

He had a point. Dak Prescott is great if all you care about is Fantasy points.

The game last night that Zeke had what 20 yards. And then the defense and a holding called costed him the game along with a kicker who missed a lay up. But yeah Daks just for fantasy points.

hes getting paid 40 million + and is one of the highest paid QBs in the league despite a garbage resume and coming back from major leg surgery so he needs to make the plays to win the game at the end of the day. dallas def and tb def were both trash. there are no excuses.

if jimmy had his game stats and we lost you and other pseudofans on his forum would clamoring that Jimmy G sucked and was responsible for losing.

Good call Gore

Ya, others agreed as well. Dak is a good QB. s**t the bed in the playoffs though, hope it continues.

For someone who's supposedly just a lurker you sure do a keep track of posters. Don't get banned again It would be sad to see someone that thinks that we draft players based on Twitter feedback leave again. These are great posts for when I need a good laugh.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:


remember the good times guys.

do you mean, good time?

lol I see you

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by Bullrush42:
Field Yates just said on PMT that he 100% believes they made the trade to draft Mac Jones then he actually thinks they were swayed by online negativity.

I believe that to be the case as well and that is even worse than completely missing on Lance. Shows they don't have enough conviction.

I agree with this, Lynch did catch some backlash about having interest in Mac Jones after the trade up.

Jones sucks too though. I wouldn't have a qb from that draft other than Lawrence. It was a s**t draft to be trading up in the first place.