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  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So what you are saying is, we gave up 3 first round picks for a slightly above average QB?

What is it about him that made Shanahan & Lynch give up all of that draft capital to trade up for Trey Lance?

They believed in what they didn't see. But hoped that they would see.

Till this day I still don't know WTF the 9ers saw in him to take him #3 overall. I hope Dallas is dumb enough to make him the starter. Dude is trash.
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I'm looking forward to seeing him play for Dallas in this years preseason games. I'm still a big fan of his. I hope he's improved since last preseason game I saw him in.🙏
[ Edited by Giedi on Jun 19, 2024 at 9:08 AM ]
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Originally posted by Giedi:
I'm looking forward to seeing him play for Dallas in this years preseason games. I'm still a big fan of his. I hope he's improved since last preseason game I saw him in.🙏

Not me, I hope he continues to suck to show that Dallas got robbed in a trade.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I'm looking forward to seeing him play for Dallas in this years preseason games. I'm still a big fan of his. I hope he's improved since last preseason game I saw him in.🙏

Not me, I hope he continues to suck to show that Dallas got robbed in a trade.

I hope he sucks. F Dallas, for forever.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So what you are saying is, we gave up 3 first round picks for a slightly above average QB?

What is it about him that made Shanahan & Lynch give up all of that draft capital to trade up for Trey Lance?

They believed in what they didn't see. But hoped that they would see.

Till this day I still don't know WTF the 9ers saw in him to take him #3 overall. I hope Dallas is dumb enough to make him the starter. Dude is trash.

Lance was among a group of 5 QBs in that draft and all but Lawrence were overrated. It was partly because they played in a Covid year when some players didn't. The stats were misleading. He appeared to have athleticism and throwing ability that wasn't really there. They were hoping to find a talent they could develop and move on from JG but when he got hurt Lance was forced to start way too soon. He probably isn't going to be a good QB but that being forced to start too soon didn't help.
Trey Aubrey Lance

His middle name, that is why he sucks.

Naa lol I hope he takes Dak's job and then we beat his ass when we play him cause F☆CK Dallas

Wait are there talks about Lance being Lamar's backup? Haha lol
[ Edited by Montana on Jun 19, 2024 at 5:37 PM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So what you are saying is, we gave up 3 first round picks for a slightly above average QB?

What is it about him that made Shanahan & Lynch give up all of that draft capital to trade up for Trey Lance?

They believed in what they didn't see. But hoped that they would see.

Till this day I still don't know WTF the 9ers saw in him to take him #3 overall. I hope Dallas is dumb enough to make him the starter. Dude is trash.

Lance was among a group of 5 QBs in that draft and all but Lawrence were overrated. It was partly because they played in a Covid year when some players didn't. The stats were misleading. He appeared to have athleticism and throwing ability that wasn't really there. They were hoping to find a talent they could develop and move on from JG but when he got hurt Lance was forced to start way too soon. He probably isn't going to be a good QB but that being forced to start too soon didn't help.

s**t he was overrated as well.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
So what you are saying is, we gave up 3 first round picks for a slightly above average QB?

What is it about him that made Shanahan & Lynch give up all of that draft capital to trade up for Trey Lance?

They believed in what they didn't see. But hoped that they would see.

Till this day I still don't know WTF the 9ers saw in him to take him #3 overall. I hope Dallas is dumb enough to make him the starter. Dude is trash.

Lance was among a group of 5 QBs in that draft and all but Lawrence were overrated. It was partly because they played in a Covid year when some players didn't. The stats were misleading. He appeared to have athleticism and throwing ability that wasn't really there. They were hoping to find a talent they could develop and move on from JG but when he got hurt Lance was forced to start way too soon. He probably isn't going to be a good QB but that being forced to start too soon didn't help.

Overrated by who, the media or PFF?

Do you think we use an outside rating system to draft players? Our coach is a O.C, so you would think he would be the one evaluating rookie QB's along with the QB coach and scouts.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Overrated by who, the media or PFF?

Do you think we use an outside rating system to draft players? Our coach is a O.C, so you would think he would be the one evaluating rookie QB's along with the QB coach and scouts.

Our qb coach at the time, which we let go after treys first year I believe, did an interview and essentially detailed what he looks for in a young qb.

it was essentially the complete opposite of Trey.

im not saying the qb coach shouldn't of been let go or that he was any good. Im just saying that it must of been interesting internal that Kyle must of fallen inlove with Trey and clearly not everyone on his coaching staff felt that way. That none of the coaches who were here when we drafted him, who went on to either manage or head coach teams, tried to trade for him (per reports).

From what I saw, it was the bills offering a 6th and then cowboys came out of no where with a 4th. Everyone else was a worse pick than a 6th on that upcoming draft.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our qb coach at the time, which we let go after treys first year I believe, did an interview and essentially detailed what he looks for in a young qb.

it was essentially the complete opposite of Trey.

im not saying the qb coach shouldn't of been let go or that he was any good. Im just saying that it must of been interesting internal that Kyle must of fallen inlove with Trey and clearly not everyone on his coaching staff felt that way. That none of the coaches who were here when we drafted him, who went on to either manage or head coach teams, tried to trade for him (per reports).

From what I saw, it was the bills offering a 6th and then cowboys came out of no where with a 4th. Everyone else was a worse pick than a 6th on that upcoming draft.

I think Kyle fell in love with finished products like Mahomes and Josh Allen and imagined what his O would look like with that guy, and probably overestimated his ability to get that out of Trey.
Originally posted by Montana:
Trey Aubrey Lance

His middle name, that is why he sucks.

Naa lol I hope he takes Dak's job and then we beat his ass when we play him cause F☆CK Dallas

Wait are there talks about Lance being Lamar's backup? Haha lol

I didn't understand taking Lance at that time and still don't. Taking Trey never made sense unless you believed that everything would go absolutely perfect and have no hiccups.

now Trey was never healthy for a single game but was also insanely inexperienced and raw. He wasn't anywhere near ready taking over a contender or playing.

dudes going into his fourth season and we know next to nothing more about him than we did in 2020. It's one of the most wild things I've seen in the nfl. We have like $5M on the cap this year for him too. Lol I hope that he is terrible if he plays for Dallas, I hate Dallas. If he goes to a team I don't hate, I'll wish him to play well. Maybe carve he can carve out a 16 year career as a backup.

at least his body must be feeling great. Lol
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Our qb coach at the time, which we let go after treys first year I believe, did an interview and essentially detailed what he looks for in a young qb.

it was essentially the complete opposite of Trey.

im not saying the qb coach shouldn't of been let go or that he was any good. Im just saying that it must of been interesting internal that Kyle must of fallen inlove with Trey and clearly not everyone on his coaching staff felt that way. That none of the coaches who were here when we drafted him, who went on to either manage or head coach teams, tried to trade for him (per reports).

From what I saw, it was the bills offering a 6th and then cowboys came out of no where with a 4th. Everyone else was a worse pick than a 6th on that upcoming draft.

I think Kyle fell in love with finished products like Mahomes and Josh Allen and imagined what his O would look like with that guy, and probably overestimated his ability to get that out of Trey.

I've said this before, and still believe it, I 100% believe that Josh Allen's development had a lot of influence over Kyle at the time on this. Like Allen was on the mind. Lol

if we took him back in 2017, when we were bad and didn't expect to win - It would of made more sense to me. But Lance clearly, to me, needed a good two years of experience before even remotely knowing what he was as a qb. Dude had like 400 pass attempts in his entire life against trash competition before going 3rd overall… what in the world were they even reviewing? What film? Lol there wasn't anything to dissect to determine what he was. No game winning drives. Nothing. Literally all of his completions were wide open. lol nothing to break down or have an idea of how he would do at the nfl level.

just blow outs of inferior teams on a team that hadn't lost a game in a few years before Trey and won multiple chips before and after him. Just was dumb. Mind blowing.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Jun 20, 2024 at 4:28 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
I've said this before, and still believe it, I 100% believe that Josh Allen's development had a lot of influence over Kyle at the time on this. Like Allen was on the mind. Lol

if we took him back in 2017, when we were bad and didn't expect to win - It would of made more sense to me. But Lance clearly, to me, needed a good two years of experience before even remotely knowing what he was as a qb. Dude had like 400 pass attempts in his entire life against trash competition before going 3rd overall… what in the world were they even reviewing? What film? Lol there wasn't anything to dissect to determine what he was. No game winning drives. Nothing. Literally all of his completions were wide open. lol nothing to break down or have an idea of how he would do at the nfl level.

just blow outs of inferior teams on a team that hadn't lost a game in a few years before Trey and won multiple chips before and after him. Just was dumb. Mind blowing.

It was ALWAYS a stupid pick. Trading up without knowing who or what you even wanted months in advance was even more stupid.
Originally posted by krizay:
It was ALWAYS a stupid pick. Trading up without knowing who or what you even wanted months in advance was even more stupid.

Sucks but is what it is. I give the team kudos for moving on quickly and not dragging it out. Brock really helped with that. lol
Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
I'll be shocked if he ever starts meaningful games.

Where would you set the o/u for games started the rest of his career?
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Jun 21, 2024 at 1:59 PM ]
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