Los Angeles Chargers QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by captveg:
Personally, I feel Shanalynch were debating between Lance and Fields. Both had traits (or at least more traits) like the QB they were actually envious of: Josh Allen. Neither Wilson or Jones scratched that itch.

I was hoping for fields. Yeah they wanted a guy who can scramble when needed

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
More than likely but things may have been different if he ended up here instead of with the Jets.

I think that would be true for all five of those quarterbacks that year. Even now, none are in situations with teams known for being good with QBs. I liked Wilson, but like most early picks, he went to a bad team and failed.

I think the 49ers would've been the best situation for all of them except for Trey because of how much development he needed.

Originally posted by captveg:
Personally, I feel Shanalynch were debating between Lance and Fields. Both had traits (or at least more traits) like the QB they were actually envious of: Josh Allen. Neither Wilson or Jones scratched that itch.

Ditto. His comments on Allen after the Bills game give insight into what he was looking for.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
I agree with that.

MJ?

I think what most likely happened is they traded up targeting Jones and pivoted.

I think the second most likely scenario is they traded up without a target in mind and wanted to further evaluate the three prospects (mostly Jones and Lance).

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
I agree with that.

MJ?

I think what most likely happened is they traded up targeting Jones and pivoted.

I think the second most likely scenario is they traded up without a target in mind and wanted to further evaluate the three prospects (mostly Jones and Lance).

I always thought Jones was the original target aswell and they changed their mind during the evaluation process.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
I agree with that.

MJ?

I think what most likely happened is they traded up targeting Jones and pivoted.

I think the second most likely scenario is they traded up without a target in mind and wanted to further evaluate the three prospects (mostly Jones and Lance).

I always thought Jones was the original target aswell and they changed their mind during the evaluation process.

Jones is a QB who they wanted to get away from, no way was jones a serious option

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Jones is a QB who they wanted to get away from, no way was jones a serious option

Except Kyle already stated that Jones was the favorite. Jones was the favorite, Fields was never an option. The trade allowed them to evaluate Trey. Kyle said it was between Mac and Trey.

San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan joined the I Am Athlete podcast and was asked about the process leading to the team selecting quarterback Trey Lance with the No. 3 overall draft pick last year. There was a lot of speculation surrounding who the 49ers were looking to draft after trading up from the No. 12 spot. Many felt Shanahan had targeted quarterback Mac Jones, while many fans scoffed at the idea.

Jones was a target—along with Lance.

"We did the trade so early that it made me feel good about it because I knew before we did it how I felt about the quarterbacks," Shanahan said, "and how good we would be to take [one] at 12. There was two that I really wanted."

Shanahan was asked to name the second quarterback.

"Mac," the 49ers coach responded. "Yeah, Mac Jones and Trey. Those were the two guys that we were locked in on from the beginning, and if we never moved up to [No. 3], we would have never had the chance to learn more about Trey. That was the hardest thing. You've got to be so sneaky and stuff when you're back there because you don't want people hopping in front of you, and I had a very strong feeling people were going to hop in front of us.

"So to go through that process to get to know both of them—Trey was tough because he didn't play the year of football before, and it was a small school. So we got to learn so much about them once we knew we were there because we didn't have to hide stuff, and that made me a lot more confident in it."

Shanahan added that he can't pinpoint when the decision shifted to Lance, but the coach obviously got to the point where he felt good about picking him over Jones.

"Mac had so much good stuff on tape, the way he played," Shanahan said. "And Trey, I loved what he put on tape. It was a year of football, so it wasn't totally enough, and especially the division. But the more you dive into it, the more I got to know the guy, the more I got to find out some stuff about him, the more I believed in what I didn't see and what I believe we will see."

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Jones is a QB who they wanted to get away from, no way was jones a serious option

Except Kyle already stated that Jones was the favorite. Jones was the favorite, Fields was never an option. The trade allowed them to evaluate Trey. Kyle said it was between Mac and Trey.

San Francisco 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan joined the I Am Athlete podcast and was asked about the process leading to the team selecting quarterback Trey Lance with the No. 3 overall draft pick last year. There was a lot of speculation surrounding who the 49ers were looking to draft after trading up from the No. 12 spot. Many felt Shanahan had targeted quarterback Mac Jones, while many fans scoffed at the idea.

Jones was a target—along with Lance.

"We did the trade so early that it made me feel good about it because I knew before we did it how I felt about the quarterbacks," Shanahan said, "and how good we would be to take [one] at 12. There was two that I really wanted."

Shanahan was asked to name the second quarterback.

"Mac," the 49ers coach responded. "Yeah, Mac Jones and Trey. Those were the two guys that we were locked in on from the beginning, and if we never moved up to [No. 3], we would have never had the chance to learn more about Trey. That was the hardest thing. You've got to be so sneaky and stuff when you're back there because you don't want people hopping in front of you, and I had a very strong feeling people were going to hop in front of us.

"So to go through that process to get to know both of them—Trey was tough because he didn't play the year of football before, and it was a small school. So we got to learn so much about them once we knew we were there because we didn't have to hide stuff, and that made me a lot more confident in it."

Shanahan added that he can't pinpoint when the decision shifted to Lance, but the coach obviously got to the point where he felt good about picking him over Jones.

"Mac had so much good stuff on tape, the way he played," Shanahan said. "And Trey, I loved what he put on tape. It was a year of football, so it wasn't totally enough, and especially the division. But the more you dive into it, the more I got to know the guy, the more I got to find out some stuff about him, the more I believed in what I didn't see and what I believe we will see."

Like i was telling smokey This is all hindsight talk. They are not going to admit what was the real process.

The reports/stories/rumors before the trade didn't really have Jones being a real target. The entire college year and up to the trade had a large amount of talk with 49ers liking Wilson. I heard a lot more wilson than jones starting around mid college season when i heard that we were scouting Wilson and I followed this up until the draft.

After playing the bills in 2020 Kyle wanted Processing, mobility and a stronger arm. Jones doesn't fit any of those. If Jone was a legit target how can a super raw prospect who they didn't start looking into until after the trade change their minds if Jones was a real target.

NY85 and I , spent the entire offseason showing and explaining why Jones isn't shouldn't be the pick when the fake Jones to 49ers rumors started coming out

no matter what was said after the Lance pick, What was shown in real time was that Lance, Jones and Fields were never the true target

Originally posted by captveg:
Personally, I feel Shanalynch were debating between Lance and Fields. Both had traits (or at least more traits) like the QB they were actually envious of: Josh Allen. Neither Wilson or Jones scratched that itch.

Shanahan admitted that they had looked closely at Jones on a podcast interview I listened to. It made it seem as though it was between he and Lance at one point.

This was a long time ago, and I don't have a link (or even remember what I was listening to) unfortunately.

Edit: Ah, just caught up with the rest of the thread. Likely it was the same I Am Athlete podcast quoted above (I'm not 100% sure though).

U don't give up TWO future 1's and a 3rd to draft the #3 QB in a draft. Foolish then and even worse now.

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
U don't give up TWO future 1's and a 3rd to draft the #3 QB in a draft. Foolish then and even worse now.

Why? Time and time again we've seen QBs taken later in the order and later than 3rd overall be superior to earlier taken QBs, from Marino (6th QB taken) to Mahomes (2nd QB taken). The draft market can be a fickle one.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
U don't give up TWO future 1's and a 3rd to draft the #3 QB in a draft. Foolish then and even worse now.

Why? Time and time again we've seen QBs taken later in the order and later than 3rd overall be superior to earlier taken QBs, from Marino (6th QB taken) to Mahomes (2nd QB taken). The draft market can be a fickle one.

People who move up know who they are moving up for.. that guy we wanted ended up not being there at 3

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
U don't give up TWO future 1's and a 3rd to draft the #3 QB in a draft. Foolish then and even worse now.

Why? Time and time again we've seen QBs taken later in the order and later than 3rd overall be superior to earlier taken QBs, from Marino (6th QB taken) to Mahomes (2nd QB taken). The draft market can be a fickle one.

People who move up know who they are moving up for.. that guy we wanted ended up not being there at 3

I don't buy the Wilson narrative. They knew he was likely gone by the 3rd pick.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by MinerForty-Niner:
U don't give up TWO future 1's and a 3rd to draft the #3 QB in a draft. Foolish then and even worse now.

Why? Time and time again we've seen QBs taken later in the order and later than 3rd overall be superior to earlier taken QBs, from Marino (6th QB taken) to Mahomes (2nd QB taken). The draft market can be a fickle one.

People who move up know who they are moving up for.. that guy we wanted ended up not being there at 3

I don't buy the Wilson narrative. They knew he was likely gone by the 3rd pick.

they didn't know before ZW's pro day/trade day. all the days leading up to then was all the ZW/49ers buzz

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I think what most likely happened is they traded up targeting Jones and pivoted.

I think the second most likely scenario is they traded up without a target in mind and wanted to further evaluate the three prospects (mostly Jones and Lance).

This line of thinking has absolutely never made a lick of sense to me. Wasnt a single mock draft that had Jones going anywhere close to 3rd until we made the trade to move up.