Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Spartan:
Me, too, NinerBuff, as far as being being excited; I don't think a draft prospect with such a high ceiling has ever gone immediately to a team with a SB-caliber roster! It's very tantalizing, and this move might reflect a FO resourcefulness akin to something out of Bill Walsh's foresight in recognizing a Mississippi college receiver named Jerry Rice for his system in 1985, or the ultra-viable Herschel Walker trade of 1989 by Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones. The Chiefs fans claim they have the best GM in football, but Trent Williams wasn't swayed. He stayed here! Trey already can look forward to having one of the best Olineman protecting his blindside. I could be wrong, but it seems the head-turning/ jaw-dropping buzz over Trey is heavier than that of the other three in training camp (Lawrence, Wilson and Fields).
The pass from Trey earlier this week described as one 'not thought a human can make' is of course silly grandiosity from a homer, but the skill is there! He will make that in real games against top-notch defenses with his top-notch OL in front of him and throwing to the the likes Aiyuk and Kittle et el.
Go Niners
First off, welcome! Go Niners!
Since I've been following the Niners closely (2003 or so), there have been 3 rookies that immediately came in and succeeded. Patrick Willis, Nick Bosa, and now Trey Lance. The level of intrigue with this guy is crazy! I liked how John Lynch in the interview with Maiocco was saying the other HOF inductees like Calvin and Peyton were asking him about Lance. And your point is very astute - this is one of, if not the best situation a rookie QB has ever had.
I'm very interested to see what happens over the next few weeks. If the Niners are confident in Jimmy and still plan to have him start Week 1, I'm confident Jimmy wins football games when healthy and the team hasn't been this healthy since the SB. But I think we need to roll the dice with Lance. I think Jimmy G is a very good quarterback when healthy and is a proven winner, but I contend the team lifted Jimmy more so than Jimmy lifted the team. His ~250 yds passing 2 TDs and 1 INT per game can be replaced.
The real question is whether to trade/cut him or pay him his full salary. That's the real question. You trade/cut him and add some depth with the extra money (possibly at the trade deadline) or you keep him as the best backup in the league and a guy who can take you to the SB if Lance gets injured. One way you're putting all the chips in for a SB, the other way pretty much assures yourself of a winning season and a playoff birth.
Thanks, and you too social1632! The way it looks, there no downside!
Indeed, a QB by committee while Trey Lance gets 'ready' to be a starter is probably not what Shanahan has in mind. I've read and heard they may be showcasing Jimmy to maximize his trade value, but I think the NFL personnel who administer those moves for their respective teams know full well who Jimmy Garoppolo is. His health will be assessed, but they know who and what he is, and he's not surprising anybody.
I'm floating this, as we shouldn't too surprised what transpires until opening day, but Trey Lance is clearly special, and Shanahan's forte is run-game designing - even without the threat Lance brings to the table! Of course Trey will need to acclimate, but how much is he going to learn 'from the sideline' (beyond a couple regular season games)? I doubt Mahomes got better because he sat behind a mic for a year. Nothing so far in training camp has remotely revealed any 'not ready' circumstances for Lance (experience comes from getting in there and playing). Lance is already a QB power-style player, and sifting him into the Niners run game is something they should be able to excel at almost immediately. The running threat this brings will often render the YAC brothers more open than usual (on top of that, Kyle the Juice may be the best catching FB in the league!). Trey's potential will add options to the passing game. It all hinges on this great - I'm being 'reasonably' optimistic, I feel - OL we will have. McGlinchey seems to have eliminated the serious liability problem he regressed into last year, and the presence of Mack at center should really add more holistic stability across the line.
We'll see what happens, and the anticipation of watching Trey take snaps this Saturday against the Chiefs is thrilling! Last year was aberrational, with the injuries, and the way things look this time with our personnel is very auspicious. But as the great Chris Berman would emphasize - "folks, that's why they actually play the games!"
Go Niners!
[ Edited by Spartan on Aug 9, 2021 at 1:11 PM ]
