Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread | Page 659

Aug 15, 2021 at 5:59 PM

BamaNiner
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Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by krizay:
I just posted the tweet. I didn't come up with the grades.

All that said, heard for months how one guy in particular needed a perfect situation and Trey didn't. After one preseason game all I'm hearing is how Trey didn't have a perfect situation.

Every worthy analysts has said Trey is in a perfect situation. Only the haters who got a pie in the face about who the niners would take and still fuming would say otherwise

I 100% believe he is in the best situation possible….however, I just don't think he is going to be good.

Aug 15, 2021 at 6:02 PM

#9872

richterkbelmont
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Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by krizay:
I just posted the tweet. I didn't come up with the grades.

All that said, heard for months how one guy in particular needed a perfect situation and Trey didn't. After one preseason game all I'm hearing is how Trey didn't have a perfect situation.

Every worthy analysts has said Trey is in a perfect situation. Only the haters who got a pie in the face about who the niners would take and still fuming would say otherwise

I 100% believe he is in the best situation possible….however, I just don't think he is going to be good.

"not going to be any good" LMAO greatest joke I've read all day, keep going with the comedy

Aug 15, 2021 at 6:05 PM

#9873

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Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
Not sure if this has been posted.

First-round rookie QB preseason debut PFF grades

Zach Wilson: 80.3
Mac Jones: 79.5
Justin Fields: 58.7
Trevor Lawrence: 58.7
Trey Lance: 48.8
— Michael Nania (@Michael_Nania) August 15, 2021

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Oh No Shanalynch have picked Solomon Thomas the 2nd

Aug 15, 2021 at 6:06 PM

#9874

BamaNiner
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Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by BamaNiner:

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by krizay:
I just posted the tweet. I didn't come up with the grades.

All that said, heard for months how one guy in particular needed a perfect situation and Trey didn't. After one preseason game all I'm hearing is how Trey didn't have a perfect situation.

Every worthy analysts has said Trey is in a perfect situation. Only the haters who got a pie in the face about who the niners would take and still fuming would say otherwise

I 100% believe he is in the best situation possible….however, I just don't think he is going to be good.

"not going to be any good" LMAO greatest joke I've read all day, keep going with the comedy

I get that it's an isolated stance, but not a crazy one if you look at all the factors. Of course, it's going to be all sunshine and rainbows from the media till it's obvious, if it gets to that point.
I do hope I'm wrong tho. The franchise depends on it.

Aug 15, 2021 at 6:07 PM

#9875

richterkbelmont
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Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by krizay:
Not sure if this has been posted.

First-round rookie QB preseason debut PFF grades

Zach Wilson: 80.3
Mac Jones: 79.5
Justin Fields: 58.7
Trevor Lawrence: 58.7
Trey Lance: 48.8
— Michael Nania (@Michael_Nania) August 15, 2021

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Oh No Shanalynch have picked Solomon Thomas the 2nd

absolutely irrelevant

Aug 15, 2021 at 6:09 PM

#9876

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Originally posted by krizay:
I just posted the tweet. I didn't come up with the grades.

All that said, heard for months how one guy in particular needed a perfect situation and Trey didn't. After one preseason game all I'm hearing is how Trey didn't have a perfect situation.

You also said you'd prefer a 20 yard completion over an 80 yard TD so....

Aug 15, 2021 at 6:22 PM

#9877

Young2Rice
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Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by krizay:
I just posted the tweet. I didn't come up with the grades.

All that said, heard for months how one guy in particular needed a perfect situation and Trey didn't. After one preseason game all I'm hearing is how Trey didn't have a perfect situation.

You also said you'd prefer a 20 yard completion over an 80 yard TD so....

Depends on the situation. When evaluating a qb, you can take more from a 20 yard pass up the middle on third down than an 80 yard bomb on a designed roll out deep play. We kinda already knew he had a big arm.

i was more impressed with the throw out of the end zone and the deep out on third down even though the 80 yard strike had that WOW factor.

Aug 15, 2021 at 6:28 PM

#9878

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Originally posted by frenchmov:
You also said you'd prefer a 20 yard completion over an 80 yard TD so....

On that particular play, I thought Aiyuk was the right play. Again, had the deep guy not been open there is no way to get back to Aiyuk in stride on time.

He took at least 2 sacks by not taking bird in hand. Obviously the 80 yarder worked out for us. There were a few others in that game that didn't.

Aug 15, 2021 at 7:01 PM

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Bummer.

Shanahan repeats he has no immediate plans to thrust Trey Lance into first-team reps just for the heck of it. He'll get his work for the designed plays that the 49ers are planning. But Shanahan is obviously not at the point where he thinks Lance is ready to fully take the reins
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2021

Aug 15, 2021 at 7:03 PM

#9880

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Key point for any OL evaluation in pass pro including here is the QB. Clip 1 Lance is at 6.5/7 yards. Clip 2 he drifts back to about 12 yards, meaning pressure is 100% on him. https://t.co/fu2o4J9jlL
— Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) August 15, 2021

Kyle still doesn't understand pass protection.

Shanahan says that one of the Trey Lance sacks "he definitely needed to get rid of." Shanahan says the other three would've been tough escapes for Lance, especially given down and distance
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2021

[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 15, 2021 at 7:04 PM ]

Aug 15, 2021 at 7:04 PM

#9881

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Bummer.

Shanahan repeats he has no immediate plans to thrust Trey Lance into first-team reps just for the heck of it. He'll get his work for the designed plays that the 49ers are planning. But Shanahan is obviously not at the point where he thinks Lance is ready to fully take the reins
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) August 15, 2021

That's what the joint practices and game with the Chargers will be. I'm eager to hear about a first team rep throwing the ball.

Aug 15, 2021 at 7:15 PM

#9882

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Let's just be thankful that there is no such thing as a backup Oline in the regular season. In the regular season the Oline starters take all the reps unless an injury occurs.It's not like the Dline where depth is important.

Aug 15, 2021 at 7:20 PM

#9883

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Originally posted by JTB1974:
Let's just be thankful that there is no such thing as a backup Oline in the regular season. In the regular season the Oline starters take all the reps unless an injury occurs.It's not like the Dline where depth is important.

So depth on the offensive line isnt important? Interesting

Aug 15, 2021 at 7:28 PM

#9884

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Rookie QB avg time to throw

1. Wilson 2.4s (0 sk)
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2. Jones 2.6s (1 sk)
3. Lawrence 2.7s (2 sk)
4. Lance 2.7s (4 sk)
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5. Fields 3.8s (0 sk)

49ers 40.1 pass blk grade (🤮)
Bears 73.4. Fields was nice avoiding sacks but had help
— George Chahrouri (@PFF_George) August 16, 2021

Aug 15, 2021 at 7:49 PM

#9885

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Originally posted by DaBeegDeek:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Let's just be thankful that there is no such thing as a backup Oline in the regular season. In the regular season the Oline starters take all the reps unless an injury occurs.It's not like the Dline where depth is important.

So depth on the offensive line isnt important? Interesting

i get what he means in a perfect world that we have no injuries on the OL the starting 5 should see 95% of all offensive snaps