Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Well, it could go both ways though. You can be on the bench and not improve at all. Jimmy sat years behind Brady and never improved his footwork/mechanics. And people keep telling me that Jimmy needs more reps as a vet. I think we get lulled into this Rodgers/Mahomes mirage sometimes thinking that players get better by sitting

Agreed…people think that's the case for every QB, if the best way for a QB to become successful was to red shirt their rookie yr, then every single rookie would be on the bench.

Also no one brings up locker, Quinn, love in regards to sitting out their rookie years.

im not saying he's got to start day 1, but he should get starting snaps at some point this yr…he's either gonna have his bumps this yr or next year and need to realize and expect it.

Originally posted by Joecool:
There was a curl route where he threw it after the curl was complete and it was almost INT'd. Other routes where DBs were able to break on the ball. DBs were breaking on a lot of balls, which means he's seeing, then throwing or late.

It's going to take time. He jumped up 2 levels. It's difficult enough jumping from the SEC to the NFL. The good thing is that he studies and isn't relying on his natural ability.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
From what I remembered he was late on two throws and had bad mechanics on one bad throw. That curl route IMO should haven't been thrown. I would have liked to know if anyone else was open.

but yes he was a little late on stuff, I would expect that for any rookie.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Joecool:
But my evaluation of his play Saturday:

1. Late on throws
2. Seeing it then throwing it
3. Pocket awareness was weak. Didn't feels the sack coming.

Kind of like Alex Smith his rookie year.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Joecool:
But my evaluation of his play Saturday:

1. Late on throws
2. Seeing it then throwing it
3. Pocket awareness was weak. Didn't feels the sack coming.

Kind of like Alex Smith his rookie year.

How can you say he's late on throws without even seeing the routes or who was actually open on the play? They got all-22 out yet?

Kyle pointed out one sack as being on him, he missed his check down on a blitz in the RZ….outside of that, I totally disagree his "pocket awareness" was wreak.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Yeah, its hard. I am in the start Trey camp. But I also recognize that he's probably going to make a ton of mistakes as a rookie. But in the long term, it would be more beneficial to us because he'll develop. Putting it off to next year means we'd have to wait until 2023 for his prime

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:
I'm guessing the 2 minutes drill is new since at NDSU he was destroying most competition. It's this kind of situations he needs to learn, and it was a great thing he had the opportunity on his first preseason game. As I said, the fact is preseason is just a glorified practice.

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
From what I remembered he was late on two throws and had bad mechanics on one bad throw. That curl route IMO should haven't been thrown. I would have liked to know if anyone else was open.

but yes he was a little late on stuff, I would expect that for any rookie.

he was fine . so was jimmy.. thank god cuz josh was not fine.... now the o line is far from fine no matter the qb but thats a whole other story

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Ensatsu:
Yeah, its hard. I am in the start Trey camp. But I also recognize that he's probably going to make a ton of mistakes as a rookie. But in the long term, it would be more beneficial to us because he'll develop. Putting it off to next year means we'd have to wait until 2023 for his prime

Agreed, I think we will run the ball a ton regardless. I'm glad that he played mostly under center and forced him to go through reads. We know they will use him a little different in season.

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
From what I remembered he was late on two throws and had bad mechanics on one bad throw. That curl route IMO should haven't been thrown. I would have liked to know if anyone else was open.

but yes he was a little late on stuff, I would expect that for any rookie.

he was fine . so was jimmy.. thank god cuz josh was not fine.... now the o line is far from fine no matter the qb but thats a whole other story

I'm expecting Rosen to be one of the cuts this week. Rosen, Richie James, Kai Nacua, Travis Benjamin

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by richterkbelmont:

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
From what I remembered he was late on two throws and had bad mechanics on one bad throw. That curl route IMO should haven't been thrown. I would have liked to know if anyone else was open.

but yes he was a little late on stuff, I would expect that for any rookie.

he was fine . so was jimmy.. thank god cuz josh was not fine.... now the o line is far from fine no matter the qb but thats a whole other story

I'm expecting Rosen to be one of the cuts this week. Rosen, Richie James, Kai Nacua, Travis Benjamin

maybe we can get a o line guy in here,,,, am fine with james going. i think i want to give travis another shot . but if he goes i will not go cc nuts.. maybe we should keep rosen this week. if nothing else.. so he can take hits from the third and fourth string guys and keep jimmy and trey away from that stuff... i think we only have three quarterbacks on the roster??

Originally posted by tjd808185:
I'd say it's more that the team has no interest in putting up with growing pains when we're a possible SB contender. If we had a sh team and could go 6-10 yeah I'd agree but with expectations it's see ya next year when you're a year more mature and we have to split from Jimmy.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Joecool:
But my evaluation of his play Saturday:

1. Late on throws
2. Seeing it then throwing it
3. Pocket awareness was weak. Didn't feels the sack coming.

Kind of like Alex Smith his rookie year.

lol it's crazy how some people saw that game.

Yes he was late on a couple of throws, yes he needs to see the blitz coming and go to his checkdown but talk about overreaction.

Originally posted by Ensatsu:

Originally posted by Tman:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
The whole sitting for a year will make him better vs actually playing football is such a lazy take imo.

kid needs to play football to get better at football.

This is a lazy take

Obviously in a vacuum a player will get better at football by playing football

This teams situation is a super bowl ready roster able to win now with a proven veteran that has gotten them there before. Would the rookies development remain stagnant through the entire season sitting behind the veteran through the season? Pretty sure he would be gaining a little through practice, studying and watching

Well, it could go both ways though. You can be on the bench and not improve at all. Jimmy sat years behind Brady and never improved his footwork/mechanics. And people keep telling me that Jimmy needs more reps as a vet. I think we get lulled into this Rodgers/Mahomes mirage sometimes thinking that players get better by sitting

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Joecool:
But my evaluation of his play Saturday:

1. Late on throws
2. Seeing it then throwing it
3. Pocket awareness was weak. Didn't feels the sack coming.

Kind of like Alex Smith his rookie year.

lol it's crazy how some people saw that game.

Yes he was late on a couple of throws, yes he needs to see the blitz coming and go to his checkdown but talk about overreaction.