Dallas Cowboys QB Trey Lance Thread

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Because our not so young, less talented, more experienced QB makes these mistakes too.

This, absolutely this.

People forget also forget that our run game is our foundation.

Wait until Trey is adding to it, and then dropping bombs when the D creeps up.

This is the way.

It seems that many are ignoring that the kid should of had three picks in that game. It's as if those throws didn't even happen. He's not ready yet. This is a super bowl caliber roster. The coaches aren't going to sacrifice this roster just to get the rook more playing time. He can learn plenty during the season as QB2. When the coaches say he's ready, he'll start. JG is looking plenty sharp. If our o-line comes together, this may be a super year. Go Niners!

I think it's close to 50/50 on people wanting Trey to start game one.

I'm not one of those people even though I've been pushing to draft him for months.

What I and I assume many people disagree with your post is that you can make the claim that he's not ready and Jimmy G is. When Jimmy himself throws at least 2-4 potential bonehead picks every game.

If all you're saying is that we should start Jimmy and let it play out naturally… I agree somewhat. But claiming he threw 3 potential picks is 1. Inaccurate and 2. Doesn't help your case that Jimmy is "ready" when he does the same things.

Fortunately it is not a popularity contest over which QB starts. It is a decision by the head coach over who is the better QB leading up to each game.

I am sure some people really believe it is:

1) Up to the fans who starts.

2) That Kyle, Lynch and all the assistant coach constantly monitor the QB threads to get ideas from the posters over who should start at QB.

3) That the QB starter is decided by pure magic and wishes rather then rational analysis by experienced coaches and managment on the players performance in games and practice.

I like how your points 1,2, & 3 are all the saying the same thing but for some reason you split them up. Lol

I also never said it matters what the fans think. So I don't know if you we're trying to insinuate that or not but that's not what I was trying to say.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
More people have died while watching an NFL game than have died playing in one. Food for thought.

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
These are the nuanced things that he needs to learn and you gotta play to figure it out

I think this is where Trey Lance's play started to fall off a little in his preseason debut. Chiefs bring 6 at 49ers 5 in protection, Trey is hot off the left. The 1 step "Now Slant" from #22 at the bottom is his hot receiver. Wouldn't be a big gain, but needs to know he's hot pic.twitter.com/SS17wCXAPz

— Alex Rollins (@AlexRollinsNFL) August 16, 2021

Looks like he recognized it but didn't have a throwing lane.

Originally posted by TownNiner:

Any danger of me being injured while watching on TV?

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
No, I'm not. Like others have said I simply accept that he will have bumps whilst he learns on the job.

It's not like our current starter isn't above a bonehead pick or two.

JG is looking sharp, but we've seen (and more importantly) DC's have seen where he looks sharp, the short to intermediate range between the numbers.

I'll take my chances on Kyle scheming up plays with a raw kid who makes you defend every blade of grass, that DC's have no film on.

Originally posted by Heroism:

"He obviously made some plays. He showed his arm talent. He did all those things well. I think Kyle (Shanahan) mentioned it, and you can see it on the tape, and Kyle and I watch a lot of things together, and we did (watch Trey). A lot of the strides he's made in terms of some of the fundamental things that we've asked him to work on, he reverted a little."

I wonder if they're(John Lynch+Kyle Shanahan)referencing his throwing mechanics. I noticed that later in the game, Trey's mechanics began to get sloppy. His release got long, and his lower body got a bit out of whack.

As we've mentioned in the draft forum a bajillion times, mechanics take years to become motor pathways. It's going to take time for everything Trey has worked on to become second nature when the bullets are firing. The more reps he gets, the better--as long as things aren't unraveling, of course.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by boast:
dispelling the myth that a guy cant sit on the bench a year after not playing a year before. we all know Lance will see action during the season. he might even start the final game of the season if the Niners wrap up a bye earlier than later.

Once again Lance isn't your typical player. He has 318 pass attempts under his belt. Aaron Rodgers sat allowing him to work on his mechanics but he had twice as many attempts in college vs higher level of competition.

Yes Lance could sit, work on things and hit the ground running but it's not the same comparison.

i wasnt comparing Lance to Rodgers. i'm pointing out that QB only getting minimal snaps in a game over a few years isnt detrimental to his growth.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Here's another. These plays are a bit worrisome because struggles to hit his hot vs blitzes also showed up in college. I highlighted a similar play at NDSU where he failed to look for his hot despite an obviously impending blitz. Hopefully, it's something he can figure out.

Lance has enough time to beat the blitz by getting the ball out quick to Jennings pic.twitter.com/x0d5bycqO9

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) August 16, 2021

found it

Originally posted by Heroism:

Trey Lance was rarely under pressure, so this one is a bit alarming. UCA blitz 0. His hot is the shallow route coming from the right. Why is he looking to the opposite side? He drops his eyes under pressure and just flounders.

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
These are the nuanced things that he needs to learn and you gotta play to figure it out

I think this is where Trey Lance's play started to fall off a little in his preseason debut. Chiefs bring 6 at 49ers 5 in protection, Trey is hot off the left. The 1 step "Now Slant" from #22 at the bottom is his hot receiver. Wouldn't be a big gain, but needs to know he's hot pic.twitter.com/SS17wCXAPz

— Alex Rollins (@AlexRollinsNFL) August 16, 2021

Looks like he recognized it but didn't have a throwing lane.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
These are the nuanced things that he needs to learn and you gotta play to figure it out

I think this is where Trey Lance's play started to fall off a little in his preseason debut. Chiefs bring 6 at 49ers 5 in protection, Trey is hot off the left. The 1 step "Now Slant" from #22 at the bottom is his hot receiver. Wouldn't be a big gain, but needs to know he's hot pic.twitter.com/SS17wCXAPz

— Alex Rollins (@AlexRollinsNFL) August 16, 2021

Looks like he recognized it but didn't have a throwing lane.

Needs to learn that JG torque quick release with zero space.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
These are the nuanced things that he needs to learn and you gotta play to figure it out

I think this is where Trey Lance's play started to fall off a little in his preseason debut. Chiefs bring 6 at 49ers 5 in protection, Trey is hot off the left. The 1 step "Now Slant" from #22 at the bottom is his hot receiver. Wouldn't be a big gain, but needs to know he's hot pic.twitter.com/SS17wCXAPz

— Alex Rollins (@AlexRollinsNFL) August 16, 2021

Here's another. These plays are a bit worrisome because struggles to hit his hot vs blitzes also showed up in college. I highlighted a similar play at NDSU where he failed to look for his hot despite an obviously impending blitz. Hopefully, it's something he can figure out.

Lance has enough time to beat the blitz by getting the ball out quick to Jennings pic.twitter.com/x0d5bycqO9

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) August 16, 2021

found it

Originally posted by Heroism:

Trey Lance was rarely under pressure, so this one is a bit alarming. UCA blitz 0. His hot is the shallow route coming from the right. Why is he looking to the opposite side? He drops his eyes under pressure and just flounders.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
These are the nuanced things that he needs to learn and you gotta play to figure it out

I think this is where Trey Lance's play started to fall off a little in his preseason debut. Chiefs bring 6 at 49ers 5 in protection, Trey is hot off the left. The 1 step "Now Slant" from #22 at the bottom is his hot receiver. Wouldn't be a big gain, but needs to know he's hot pic.twitter.com/SS17wCXAPz

— Alex Rollins (@AlexRollinsNFL) August 16, 2021

Here's another. These plays are a bit worrisome because struggles to hit his hot vs blitzes also showed up in college. I highlighted a similar play at NDSU where he failed to look for his hot despite an obviously impending blitz. Hopefully, it's something he can figure out.

Lance has enough time to beat the blitz by getting the ball out quick to Jennings pic.twitter.com/x0d5bycqO9

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) August 16, 2021

found it

Originally posted by Heroism:

Trey Lance was rarely under pressure, so this one is a bit alarming. UCA blitz 0. His hot is the shallow route coming from the right. Why is he looking to the opposite side? He drops his eyes under pressure and just flounders.

How'd they get all22 of preseason? Jealous.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Here's another. These plays are a bit worrisome because struggles to hit his hot vs blitzes also showed up in college. I highlighted a similar play at NDSU where he failed to look for his hot despite an obviously impending blitz. Hopefully, it's something he can figure out.

Lance has enough time to beat the blitz by getting the ball out quick to Jennings pic.twitter.com/x0d5bycqO9

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) August 16, 2021

found it

Originally posted by Heroism:

Trey Lance was rarely under pressure, so this one is a bit alarming. UCA blitz 0. His hot is the shallow route coming from the right. Why is he looking to the opposite side? He drops his eyes under pressure and just flounders.

The unfortunate truth is our starter will miss open guys and absorb sacks as well.

Not a blitz in both cases but guys were open in both cases,....and this is without marching orders to stay put in the pocket.




They both are certainly not perfect, but then again I don't know what QB is.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Another reason why Trey needs to be starting. It's not like he'll be overcoming any of these Issues by sitting on the bench.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Another reason why Trey needs to be starting. It's not like he'll be overcoming any of these Issues by sitting on the bench.

The other possibility is that you reinforce those tendencies to get sloppy if you throw him out there before he's ready, especially if he starts taking regular beatings and stops looking down the field.